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OK tandem had to have a go
. Interesting concept though. That's why I think it will not happen, because BA mgt know that it will cause endless aggro when somene makes a challenge and wins. Far easier to do another bacon and lie all along as they desperately try to wind it down and think of ways to lose all the pilots or keep whats left at arms length.
. Interesting concept though. That's why I think it will not happen, because BA mgt know that it will cause endless aggro when somene makes a challenge and wins. Far easier to do another bacon and lie all along as they desperately try to wind it down and think of ways to lose all the pilots or keep whats left at arms length.
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OK biddedout
BA already absorbed City Flyer once. All of their pilots were taken on at the bottom of the Master Seniority List. Grandfather rights applied. The precedent has been set. Is there some reason why it shouldn't occur again in the same way? After all, why haven't those people already made a challenge?
To be perfectly honest, the numbers involved, and perhaps more importantly, the rather low general experience levels of the current Cityflyer, mean that it probably wouldn't cause too many waves however it occured. Though I suspect a FLYBE style 'percentage' basis may not find favour!
Though as you say, it is in any event, becoming inceasingly hypothetical, and particularly so if the promised RJ85s arrive. It will simply be a 'stand alone' airline.
BA already absorbed City Flyer once. All of their pilots were taken on at the bottom of the Master Seniority List. Grandfather rights applied. The precedent has been set. Is there some reason why it shouldn't occur again in the same way? After all, why haven't those people already made a challenge?
To be perfectly honest, the numbers involved, and perhaps more importantly, the rather low general experience levels of the current Cityflyer, mean that it probably wouldn't cause too many waves however it occured. Though I suspect a FLYBE style 'percentage' basis may not find favour!
Though as you say, it is in any event, becoming inceasingly hypothetical, and particularly so if the promised RJ85s arrive. It will simply be a 'stand alone' airline.
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Sadly, with other companies starting to muscle in to LCY, and the management team present, I dont think Cityflyer has any sort of long term future. I'd give it 3 years tops.
WW Will announce that it has two years to perform, otherwise it will be closed or sold.
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David Evans is to be brought back to manage the operation as it merges with Gatwick. going forward with his people to create the largest regional airline in Europe. DE and his dedicated team are looking forward to a long and prosperous future and hare already eyeing up office space just at the end of the Mall, near the big fountains.
The new superairline will be called - Logabrymanxshag.
The logo will include images of large rodents and ships.
I expect it to be a huge success, but in the extremely unlikely event that it isn't, it will of course be everyone else's fault, especially BALPA and the wrong sort of pasengers.
. David Evans is to be brought back to manage the operation as it merges with Gatwick.
going forward with his people to create the largest regional airline in Europe. DE and his dedicated team are looking forward to a long and prosperous future and hare already eyeing up office space just at the end of the Mall, near the big fountains.The new superairline will be called - Logabrymanxshag.
The logo will include images of large rodents and ships.
I expect it to be a huge success, but in the extremely unlikely event that it isn't, it will of course be everyone else's fault, especially BALPA and the wrong sort of pasengers.
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Nice letter gone out to the cabin crew today from Cityflyer, explaining that the FDP will now not be tax free as stated in the terms and conditions and as per contract that they all signed in good faith.But will infact be taxed at 18% over the full £2.20 amount, so in real terms that means they are 10 pence in the pound worse off than they were under BACON!!! I guess the company could be held in breach of contract?
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Marlowe if you mean they are worse off than when Bacon flight pay was tax free then you are correct but they are actually 10p per hr better off than when it was taxed in Bacon . (if that makes any sense!!)
The FDP went tax free in BAcon after a long period of joint negotiations betwen the TAX office BAcon and BA LGW, or so we were told. So why have they now changed it and has there been a similar change to FDP / TAFB in BA? Similar has happened in Flybe because someone told the tax office that we get provided with lots of delicious crew meals. Try telling that to anyone caled off standby to work off schedule and nightstop.
Time for an acrooss the board FDP for the whole industry.
Time for an acrooss the board FDP for the whole industry.
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This is not confined to Flyer and Fly Be or indeed aviation. Gordon has got his money hungry dogs sniffing around every industry looking for tax free portions of salary. Having seen the letter sent to Fly Be it makes it clear the revenue see FDP as a profit on behalf of the crew. That means it has to be taxed. Only the proportion of an allowance that covers an actual expense can be tax free. If this hasn't hit you yet it will. They are looking at every company. Any non taxable amount now has to be proved by each company through a receipts exercise. Easy for those with nightstops harder for those on day trips only.
Due to the amount of touring at flyer a receipts exercise should restore a large proportion of the tax free allowance.
Gordon needs the cash to waste on illegal wars and unhanded IT companies and he wants it from us !
Due to the amount of touring at flyer a receipts exercise should restore a large proportion of the tax free allowance.
Gordon needs the cash to waste on illegal wars and unhanded IT companies and he wants it from us !
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It just seems wrong that CF had the £2.20 tax free written into the contracts that the cabin crew signed in good faith, and then just blame the tax office when they cant deliver. Surely both parties entered into a legally binding contract when the contract was offered and then signed, so surely CF are breaking the contract by not delivering a contractual obligation now? After all i am sure that the tax free status on the FDP would have influenced some people to join the company given the amount of tours.
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On a different subject......
Herewith a brief description of the main character played by Leonardo de Caprio in "Catch me if you can". Of course, some may mistakenly apply the description to other individuals.....
He is - very intelligent, exceptionally ambitious, not very practical, zero people skills, zero staff loyalty, enjoys stackbabbing, totally self oriented, poseur extraordinaire, used to be addicted to cabin crew, fundamentally untrustworthy.
A great movie!
He is - very intelligent, exceptionally ambitious, not very practical, zero people skills, zero staff loyalty, enjoys stackbabbing, totally self oriented, poseur extraordinaire, used to be addicted to cabin crew, fundamentally untrustworthy.
A great movie!