Tyrolean looking for copilots
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tyrolean selection
hi guys,
very nice reading all the comments on Tyrolean...., i'm going for the selection anyway this 28th november....
does anyone have some concrete information for the selection.....? especially for the ATPL-theory test (is it in english or german?) How can i prepare myself best.., do I have to learn all my ATPL manuals by heart-again- or are there books with questions which prepare me for the subjects asked at the selection....Is there a way for me to prepare me for the psych. part of the grading....
I really don't have a clue as to what i can ecxpect
, so any information/links/books/summary's/tips would be great..
Beers for those who can help me a bit....
thanx a lot!!!
very nice reading all the comments on Tyrolean...., i'm going for the selection anyway this 28th november....
does anyone have some concrete information for the selection.....? especially for the ATPL-theory test (is it in english or german?) How can i prepare myself best.., do I have to learn all my ATPL manuals by heart-again- or are there books with questions which prepare me for the subjects asked at the selection....Is there a way for me to prepare me for the psych. part of the grading....
I really don't have a clue as to what i can ecxpect
, so any information/links/books/summary's/tips would be great..Beers for those who can help me a bit....
thanx a lot!!!
Joined: Nov 2006
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From: all over the place
hi guys.....
nice reading all the comments on Tyrolean, nevertheless i will be going on selection 28th november...
Does anyone have info for me about the selection..For the ATPL-theory...what is the best way to prepare myself, or should I learn all my ATPL-books by heart- again- ...does anyone have any books/summary's/links/tips on to prepare myself the best possible way...? Because i have no clue as to what to expect...
Any tips on how to prepare for the psych-part of the selection..?
Beers on me for some nice tips!!!!
thanx a lot!!!!!
nice reading all the comments on Tyrolean, nevertheless i will be going on selection 28th november...
Does anyone have info for me about the selection..For the ATPL-theory...what is the best way to prepare myself, or should I learn all my ATPL-books by heart- again- ...does anyone have any books/summary's/links/tips on to prepare myself the best possible way...? Because i have no clue as to what to expect...
Any tips on how to prepare for the psych-part of the selection..?
Beers on me for some nice tips!!!!
thanx a lot!!!!!
Wunderbra
Joined: Aug 2006
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From: Bedford, UK
A couple of questions regarding this.
Firstly what is a 60%/64%/80% contract? Forgive me but I've never heard of it!
Secondly do you still have to pay for the selection? If so can anyone tell me what the exact cost is?
Many thanks
MH
Firstly what is a 60%/64%/80% contract? Forgive me but I've never heard of it!
Secondly do you still have to pay for the selection? If so can anyone tell me what the exact cost is?
Many thanks
MH
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From: at the edge of the alps
The TYR contract requires first year FOs to work 80% of normal block and duty hours only and get 80% of a nominal 1st year FO salary (i.e. the salary table already reflects the 80% restriction).
If they fly more (which they have to if the company schedules them) they get paid, but only on a yearly basis.
Tyrolean hired the last FOs on 80% part-time, resulting in an effective 64% contract that automatically changes to "real" 80% after 365 days. Snap-up t 100% is by crew demand..
The system is probably going to change to one where you regularly get 80% for the first 1-2 years and then 100%.
Hope this isn't too complicated.
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From: at the edge of the alps
Contract details including an English-language summary can be found at their works council website.
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From: holland
Now comes the fun part, everybody including me, flew and flies 100% during the first year whilst on a 80% contract, due to the crew demand. After that year you receive the hours you flew over the 80% as overpay, that buys you a whole lot of beer !!!
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tyrolean
hi guys,
very nice reading all the comments on Tyrolean...., i'm going for the selection anyway this 28th november....
does anyone have some concrete information for the selection.....? especially for the ATPL-theory test (is it in english or german?) How can i prepare myself best.., do I have to learn all my ATPL manuals by heart-again- or are there books with questions which prepare me for the subjects asked at the selection....Is there a way for me to prepare me for the psych. part of the grading....
I really don't have a clue as to what i can ecxpect , so any information/links/books/summary's/tips would be great..
Beers for those who can help me a bit....
thanx a lot!!!
very nice reading all the comments on Tyrolean...., i'm going for the selection anyway this 28th november....
does anyone have some concrete information for the selection.....? especially for the ATPL-theory test (is it in english or german?) How can i prepare myself best.., do I have to learn all my ATPL manuals by heart-again- or are there books with questions which prepare me for the subjects asked at the selection....Is there a way for me to prepare me for the psych. part of the grading....
I really don't have a clue as to what i can ecxpect
, so any information/links/books/summary's/tips would be great..Beers for those who can help me a bit....
thanx a lot!!!
Wunderbra
Joined: Aug 2006
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From: Bedford, UK
Good luck with it Victor.
We'd appreciate some info on the selection when you get back if you get some spare time.
Can you confirm at all if they are still asking people to pay for selection?
Many thanks
Matt
We'd appreciate some info on the selection when you get back if you get some spare time.
Can you confirm at all if they are still asking people to pay for selection?
Many thanks
Matt
Joined: Jun 2001
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From: at the edge of the alps
TYR doesn't do a lot of "reserve selection" as they don't expect people to wait for a call for several months. That doesn't say you're definitely with a positive selection but the waiting pool is more of a jacuzzi in size
Be aware that you're joining a very young crew. About a quarter of the current seniority list have joined in the last two years and hardly any of them are over age 30. So don't count on pensioners to vacate their left seats for you within the next 15-20 years. On the other hand we've been telling people that an upgrading after five years will soon be a thing of the past for the last ecade but so far that hasn't come true.
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From: Most likely a lower FL...
victor charlie, as i remember it the CPL/ATPL questions were in english. Heard that they just changed the questions, roughly a month ago or so.
Good luck with the selection!
The language requirement is apparently not taken too, seriously, as there have been pilots who hardly speek any german at all flying for more than a year. But as Alpine Flyer said, you'll stay abit of an outsider if you don't learn some german. It's not that hard
Good luck with the selection!
The language requirement is apparently not taken too, seriously, as there have been pilots who hardly speek any german at all flying for more than a year. But as Alpine Flyer said, you'll stay abit of an outsider if you don't learn some german. It's not that hard
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From: Down south, USA.
Alpen Flieger:
If I were really young, and could somehow convert to the JAR ratings, it would be very interesting to somehow be hired, live and fly for a very good airline over in western Austria.
But why? Well...the glittering (glanzenden, prachtigen) antiquities, palaces, music (Fest), beautiful mountains, valleys and rivers, paved bike trails and nice country roads, watch the service in a peaceful country church (like a small Wieskirche), enjoy the tasty food, the cloudy Weizenbier, (served by den sehr, immer attraktiven Damen). Oh well (-na ja?-). My wife and I plan to go again to Salzburg months after we move, and can save some cash. Wish I could quit this company and wander around there from April through November, from Zimmer frei to B & B.
Did I not mention the first-class cultural events, scenery and hospitality? My FOs help out with short-term memory loss, and whether we programmed the Douglas "steam-gauges" (just thump the oil pressure and N1 gauges..rotation...no help when thumping glass?).
I envy you much younger guys/gals . Viel Gluck dort druben.
If I were really young, and could somehow convert to the JAR ratings, it would be very interesting to somehow be hired, live and fly for a very good airline over in western Austria.
But why? Well...the glittering (glanzenden, prachtigen) antiquities, palaces, music (Fest), beautiful mountains, valleys and rivers, paved bike trails and nice country roads, watch the service in a peaceful country church (like a small Wieskirche), enjoy the tasty food, the cloudy Weizenbier, (served by den sehr, immer attraktiven Damen). Oh well (-na ja?-). My wife and I plan to go again to Salzburg months after we move, and can save some cash. Wish I could quit this company and wander around there from April through November, from Zimmer frei to B & B.
Did I not mention the first-class cultural events, scenery and hospitality? My FOs help out with short-term memory loss, and whether we programmed the Douglas "steam-gauges" (just thump the oil pressure and N1 gauges..rotation...no help when thumping glass?).
I envy you much younger guys/gals
. Viel Gluck dort druben.
Last edited by Ignition Override; 15th November 2006 at 05:33.
