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Old 9th Dec 2005, 11:16
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Tyrolean Holding Pool

Hey there

anyone here that has also been selected by Tyrolean in the last couple of months and is now in "Evidenz"?

Feel free to PM me!
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Old 5th Jul 2006, 10:13
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Tyrolean Airways Selection Process

Hi,

I am looking for any kind of information related to the selection process for Tyrolean Airways.
I should have an interview with them soon.

Many thanks!
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Old 11th Aug 2006, 12:07
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Does anybody have any information?
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Old 11th Aug 2006, 16:30
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If you speak german try. www.pilots.de. I guess u can find something there, but not really sure.
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Hello ,

I have an interview with them very soon, I just would like to know if the knowledge of the german language is compulsory...because my german sucks a bit...
for me it's first:- ATPL question (the first day)
- Psycho test: 2days!!
Back home and maybe the rest: flight on the sim (FNPTG) and medical+ interview.
And you have to pay for the test and the accomodation.
Thanks for your answer and advice.
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hi folks
i can help you a little bit:
1) atpl test: learn everything, there are also some lr qs
2) elite sim: check austrian airports especially lowg and lowl, normally it is a mooney, so remember to step into the rudder, if you trim sim is very stable, normal dep route, radials intercepting, holding, non prec. and prec approach
3) psycho test: check hesse schrader testtraining 2000, discussion, and multi tasking qualities (you can learn it with skytest.de pretty similiar to lh mtc)
4) interview: normally chief pilot of crj, chief flight instructor, ceo, chief pilot: several questions about how would you decide do not change attitude bring arguments for your opinion although they will stress you very much, some company qs, and they tell you about vo, willing to pay the rating
5) jar medical
hope this helps you - if not just ask
cu
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Old 5th Oct 2006, 21:34
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Tyrolean looking for copilots

Tyrolean Airways is looking for Fokker 70/100 and Dash 8 copilots. No rating required.

Applications here.

Contract info at their union website.
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Für deutsche Staatsbürger/innen:
  • Gültiger deutscher ATPL
  • Theoretische Langstreckenflugberechtigung
  • Höchstalter: 35 Abgeleisteter Wehr- bzw. Zivildienst
Alright, whats all this mean? Im a Staatsbürger, under 35, and will soon hold a JAA "frozen" ATPL, JAA IR, and MCC.
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Does one need to speak German??????

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Originally Posted by Aussie
Does one need to speak German??????

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I am afraid but...Yes, I think so...

Grundsätzlich muß man im Besitz der EU bzw. EWR Staatsbürgerschaft sein (Ausnahme: Schweizer Staatsbürger), wenn man sich bei Tyrolean Airways bewerben möchte. Deutsch- und ausgezeichnete Englischkenntnisse sind Voraussetzung. Inhaber von nicht österreichische Lizenzen müssen nach erfolgreicher Selektion für die Umschreibung ihrer Lizenz sorgen.
Means roughly if you trust wordlingo:

In principle one must in the possession of the European Union and/or. EWR nationality its (exception: Swiss citizen), if one liked itself to apply with Tyrolean Airways. German one and excellent of English knowledge are a condition. Owners of not Austrian licenses must provide after successful selection for the rewriting of their license.
Sorry if I have disappointed you. Me sad too

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no worries

you got a year to learn the language in such manner that you can order a beer. so just get on their web site and try to get an interview.

all the best
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Old 6th Oct 2006, 22:38
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BTW, Austria has JAR-FCL licenses now, so conversion shouldn't be a factor.

The company requires that you learn a reasonable amount of german within a reasonable time.

95% of all written documentation and all CBTs at Tyrolean are in English and so are all flight deck procedures. German is used as a Classroom language for recurrent training, though.

If you don't learn at least some German you'll be able to work but will stay a bit of an "outsider".
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PLEASE, no ozzies in Austria
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Old 7th Oct 2006, 04:29
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But how quick will imported pilots comprehend the Austrian/Bavarian dialects?
Und muss man dazu Spatzle bestellen konnen?
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Old 7th Oct 2006, 07:12
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If you don't learn at least some German you'll be able to work but will stay a bit of an "outsider".

In the end all foreigners are outsiders with Tyrolean. At least in the opinion of certain people. Nice mentality!
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no requirements

Tyrolean is under huge pressure and in desperate need of crews.
A high number is leaving now with the JAR licence issued. For Australiens there is a chance to apply the name of the gap is called some right to reside in the UK. (thanks to Elizabeth)

German is definatly not required the common langage is Tirolerisch. It sounds like hollareidulliööhhgugu.
If you are able to spell this you are the guy.
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Tyrolean is a great company for low-timers. You get good experience flying into the larger airports in Europe as well as some of the smaller ones in eastern Europe.

I guess they will invite anyone to their interview as long as they are able to fill out an application. So even if you don´t make the final cut, you'll still have gained some valuable selection/interview experience.

However, at the present I think you actually have to pay for an interview. Something in the order of 200 or 300 EUR... (somebody correct me if I´m wrong). Though I really like this company because it gave me my first job, I must say that it is WRONG to charge for an interview.

And don't worry about being a non-Austrian. We are plenty of foreigners here with pretty sh***Y German skills so you will NOT be an outsider here.
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Try Tyrolean!

The money is very good compared to other regionals. The crews are rather young but very sharp, professional and friendly.

Austria is a great place to be with a high quality of living. We are lots of foreign pilots and there is no xenophobia at all among the corps. The only bad things about Tyrolean is the hard 5-stage selection and the 5-Year typerating bond you have to sign.....

....and yes I am Tyrolean's CEO....
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One must ask him-/herself why is Tyrolian in such a desperate need for pilots.
Is it because they treat you well and descent? Because they pay you what you deserve to earn? Because they consider their staff an asset?
No, no, poor sillies. It's because they will squeeze the sh##t out of you to get the most out of you. This company is roughly more than a stepping stone or the last option for those who are in a desperate need of a job.
The selection prgramm really sucks, it#s ridiculous in itself, 'cause the only thing you may win is a beancounter job on a bugsmashing Crash 8-something or F#cker 100.
It's not worth trying it. There are better options out there in the industry at this time.
Try applying to the better ones.
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Old 7th Oct 2006, 15:41
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Spot on!

In the last 12 months, 45 pilots, 10% percent of the total, have left Tyrolean. A lot more will leave in the next 6 months.
Why? Because it's a nice company?
No. The pay is crappy, and management treats you like sh*t. There is hardly any respect for pilots in this company.

The managers, still hiding in the Innsbruck mountains, are partly incapable of managing a company. In the end the pilots (and c/a's) have to clean the mess. Crew control begging you to fly extra stretches, supposing that you have no problem working beyond the collective agreements. And if you don't work beyond the collective agreement, you'll be scheduled with your fleetchief, in order to force you to act differently the next time. It's a mess.

If you can't find a job, it's fine to start here. These times, you should be able to find something better than this.
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