EASYJET FO TAKE HOME PAY(AFTER PAYRISE)
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I can't blame cadets for leaving, they paid for their own training and accepted to work for less so it's quite obvious they see EJ just as a flight school. They probably feel they do not owe anything to EJ! So it's obvious they feel absolutely free to leave as soon as they can find better T&C, why shouldn't they? they don't have any reason for committing to the airline. Probably EJ simply needs to give their cadets more reasons to commit to the airline (better lifestyle and T&C, pay for tpye rating) so they will see EJ as an employer not as a flight school. in my view that's the only way to stop pilots from leaving (wether they are cadets or not).
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Great base, great people and a few new routes and another aircraft coming. Few guys moving on for commands so possibly room for some RHS seat guys, but basing policy in EZY is a bit hazy, and you dont find out where you will be based until one month before you start, which is usually two months into your notice period of your current employer.
Also direct entry commands are/should be a no no at the moment, so I am assuming your enquiry is aimed at RHS?
Great base, great people and a few new routes and another aircraft coming. Few guys moving on for commands so possibly room for some RHS seat guys, but basing policy in EZY is a bit hazy, and you dont find out where you will be based until one month before you start, which is usually two months into your notice period of your current employer.
Also direct entry commands are/should be a no no at the moment, so I am assuming your enquiry is aimed at RHS?
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Jesus Christ, reading this post shows how sick and disgusting it all is! The guy just asked about the take-home pay as a FO @ easy, nothing more... Do you really have to start hitting at each other all the time. Don't get me wrong, I am not flying for a LCC any more, but I was on my previous job. Does that automatically mean I'm scum and a whore as well? Face it: there's I-don't-know-how-many pilots out there that are not flying for any major carrier, but guess what, they have to make a living as well. And in case zou haven't noticed yet, making a decent living gets harder and harder these days. So you can either face it or wake up one morning and be really surprised by it.
And one more thing: Those of you who call others scumbags and whores and I don't know what else, why did you start flying? Because you love it or because you wanted all the money/uniform/lifestyle stuff that's assocciated with it? I started because I love flying, and I had a job that didn't pay too much in the beginning, and i have a loan as well that I have to pay off, but I don't mind doing that, because i love what I'm doing!
And before you start hitting @ me now, NO I don't work for easy, YES I am a FO, NO I don't make £50000 a year, but I still enjoy flying my little A319 every time I get to do it! So please, could we all at least show a little respect for each other, because I think we all started in a little Cessna, Piper or whatever!
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And one more thing: Those of you who call others scumbags and whores and I don't know what else, why did you start flying? Because you love it or because you wanted all the money/uniform/lifestyle stuff that's assocciated with it? I started because I love flying, and I had a job that didn't pay too much in the beginning, and i have a loan as well that I have to pay off, but I don't mind doing that, because i love what I'm doing!
And before you start hitting @ me now, NO I don't work for easy, YES I am a FO, NO I don't make £50000 a year, but I still enjoy flying my little A319 every time I get to do it! So please, could we all at least show a little respect for each other, because I think we all started in a little Cessna, Piper or whatever!
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B Pilot....nice one....agree with you totally.
I have 900 hours total time, 600 on heavy turboprop. Applied to EZy but havent heard anything yet, but that isnt really the point. Anyone care to say what its like being based at BRS at the moment. All the guys look reasonably happy, atleast on the outside!
I have 900 hours total time, 600 on heavy turboprop. Applied to EZy but havent heard anything yet, but that isnt really the point. Anyone care to say what its like being based at BRS at the moment. All the guys look reasonably happy, atleast on the outside!
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Bpilot - I am not sure if you are reading the same thread as everyone else. Nobody is 'hitting at each other' here. This is a reasonable and rational debate among people who work for easyJet about terms and conditions. Specific details have been provided of take-home pay for those who are interested.
There is also a further discussion about the recruitment policy at easyJet regarding cadets (taken to be low-houred pilots supplied by CTC). This is also an entrely reasonable discussion among people with different perspectives on this complex issue. I am certainly not in the least offended by those who disagree with me - nor, I hope, will anyone else be offended by what I have said.
There is also a further discussion about the recruitment policy at easyJet regarding cadets (taken to be low-houred pilots supplied by CTC). This is also an entrely reasonable discussion among people with different perspectives on this complex issue. I am certainly not in the least offended by those who disagree with me - nor, I hope, will anyone else be offended by what I have said.
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Calm the f*** down
What is wrong with you guys? Have nothing better to do?
Easy is not so bad. On top of the TRSS (38019 pounds/year) you get 5000 pounds per year tax free for 5 years. You have to pay 23000 pounds for the type rating up front.
The 1st of October we receive another 4% increase.
I hope this clarifies things. I sure am happy with this salary.
Take it easy at eachother.....
Easy is not so bad. On top of the TRSS (38019 pounds/year) you get 5000 pounds per year tax free for 5 years. You have to pay 23000 pounds for the type rating up front.
The 1st of October we receive another 4% increase.
I hope this clarifies things. I sure am happy with this salary.
Take it easy at eachother.....
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What does LIFE cost?
OK, after reading these posts and checking the EZ website, and asking a few questions, what would you consider a good wage?
From NSF's post (thanks for the info!) and the website, if I were to join EZ as a TRSS with an unfrozen ATPL, I would gross 44K for the first 6 months, and then 48K after that. That should leave me with about 2700 pounds in my pocket at the end of the month, I think?? At the going rate, that's 4000 euro a month and that would get me pretty far in Deutschland.
So, is that good, bad, not bad? Can you live on that with a Gatwick base? As a simple comparison, what would your average car mechanic or school teacher earn? I've never lived in the UK, so I have no idea what the living costs are like, or what to compare it to.
From NSF's post (thanks for the info!) and the website, if I were to join EZ as a TRSS with an unfrozen ATPL, I would gross 44K for the first 6 months, and then 48K after that. That should leave me with about 2700 pounds in my pocket at the end of the month, I think?? At the going rate, that's 4000 euro a month and that would get me pretty far in Deutschland.
So, is that good, bad, not bad? Can you live on that with a Gatwick base? As a simple comparison, what would your average car mechanic or school teacher earn? I've never lived in the UK, so I have no idea what the living costs are like, or what to compare it to.
Originally Posted by JVDS
Oh yes,
forgot to say. Some friends that fly at easyjet cash in about 3200 pounds net per month as SFO. Not so bad I think......
forgot to say. Some friends that fly at easyjet cash in about 3200 pounds net per month as SFO. Not so bad I think......
I started mid 2003 and I earn £2750 a month, of which £420 is loan repayment thus leaving £2300. This is the deal on offer now.
Herr Stiffler, you may need to do some research on our average house prices by area, the tax we have to pay out of our taxed income (council tax) and the cost of utilities and transport.
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Originally Posted by Norman Stanley Fletcher
Bpilot - I am not sure if you are reading the same thread as everyone else. Nobody is 'hitting at each other' here. This is a reasonable and rational debate among people who work for easyJet about terms and conditions...
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Running through the tax rates and ignoring allowances a £38,000 TRSS SFO salary should yield over £2400 a month and that's not including sector pay. So if a current SFO is getting £2300/month including sector pay, I must be missing something! What have I forgotten? Or is £2300/mo a quote for an FO position?
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100%please : Your numbers are about right. However £420 might be what EJ take off your tax bill, but if you are like the other TRSS people you will be paying around £470 ish to good old HSBC Hythe (wish I was on the managers bonus scheme at that branch!) to pay the loan off in the allocated 5 years.
abracadabra : 100%please's post is an accurate picture of your pay as a TRSS SFO and does indeed include sector pay. It may increase a little after this months payrise and will now include a small bonus (5%? I can't remember, too tired) on your anniversary of joining, IF the company turns a profit for the year. This year a profit will arise purely by good fortune, not by good management, going on the current rate of crew taxis,hotel accommodation, cancellations and sub charters.
Sector pay has a big effect and can mean your take home pay varies. My average take home pay over the last few years has been £3000 a month. I then have to repay the TRSS loan at just under £500/month and then if I want to I can contribute towards the non pension (or Financial Planner's Benevolent Fund, take your pick). I would say 100% contributes towards the fund and ends up with around £2300/month. By October you could add possibly £200/month with the pay rise depending on tax.
abracadabra : 100%please's post is an accurate picture of your pay as a TRSS SFO and does indeed include sector pay. It may increase a little after this months payrise and will now include a small bonus (5%? I can't remember, too tired) on your anniversary of joining, IF the company turns a profit for the year. This year a profit will arise purely by good fortune, not by good management, going on the current rate of crew taxis,hotel accommodation, cancellations and sub charters.
Sector pay has a big effect and can mean your take home pay varies. My average take home pay over the last few years has been £3000 a month. I then have to repay the TRSS loan at just under £500/month and then if I want to I can contribute towards the non pension (or Financial Planner's Benevolent Fund, take your pick). I would say 100% contributes towards the fund and ends up with around £2300/month. By October you could add possibly £200/month with the pay rise depending on tax.
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bloggs2, thanks for that. I had wondered whether the pension might be not have been included on 100%'s quote.
A word of advice for any TRSS takers though, do not use HSBC to get your loan!!! It's a rubbish rate and you can get much better online. Check http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ for more info.
A word of advice for any TRSS takers though, do not use HSBC to get your loan!!! It's a rubbish rate and you can get much better online. Check http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ for more info.
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JVDS and others - no one is getting upset here other than people like yourself who think everyone else is! As I said previously, this is a rational debate on the subject of pay and conditions at easyJet and I think it is being conducted in an entirely reasonable manner.
My own positon is that I really like working for easyJet and am well paid, particularly after the latest pay rise. The deal is particularly good if you are not living around the London area but less so if you are. Her Stiffler has picked up on an important issue - the problem of working at Gatwick on the pay being given. Our otherwise superb union, has taken a negotiating position which says that there will alsways be one pay rate for the job regardless of location. I personally do not agree with that and would like to see a London weighting. I would also have no problem with easyJet opening bases in the old Eastern Europe and paying less money there. The big question would be how much less followed closely by an agreement to prevent losing work to 'cheaper' bases. This is extremely contraversial and would need to be well-researched before signing up to anything. Nonetheless I would in principle be in favour of this.
My own positon is that I really like working for easyJet and am well paid, particularly after the latest pay rise. The deal is particularly good if you are not living around the London area but less so if you are. Her Stiffler has picked up on an important issue - the problem of working at Gatwick on the pay being given. Our otherwise superb union, has taken a negotiating position which says that there will alsways be one pay rate for the job regardless of location. I personally do not agree with that and would like to see a London weighting. I would also have no problem with easyJet opening bases in the old Eastern Europe and paying less money there. The big question would be how much less followed closely by an agreement to prevent losing work to 'cheaper' bases. This is extremely contraversial and would need to be well-researched before signing up to anything. Nonetheless I would in principle be in favour of this.
Yes, my £2300 is after a small contribution to the pension. Also, at my base, the sector pay is poor for the number of hours flown. I do mostly 1200 nm sectors, but they only count as "mediums" because the straight line distance is 990 nm. So we end up only able to do 2 sector days which earns 2*1.2, total 2.4 sectors. In Scotland, for the same flight hours, you earn 4.8 sectors (6*0.8).
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wait a moment what if you already have a 737 type rating would the EZY TRSS still apply in order for them to make money out of you via this "employment entrance fee"?
I only ask because these days aviation seems to have the rationale and mindset of a horse that has shrieked and bolted
I only ask because these days aviation seems to have the rationale and mindset of a horse that has shrieked and bolted
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No you would go direct entry if you're already rated with 500 hours on type or something. www.easyjet.com
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Forgetting BA for a moment.. How does easyJet pay compare to other airlines like for eg: BMI, BMI Baby, My Travel, Thomson Fly, GB Airways, Monarch, First Choice, Astraeus, Jet2 etc, etc....?
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Can anyone tell me how much would a retired (30 year) pilot receive as a pension per year? Thanks.
It's all very well having a show me the money attitude now but if it's all having to go into saving for the future. .
It's all very well having a show me the money attitude now but if it's all having to go into saving for the future. .