Easy TRSS B737 or A319?
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From: 'An Airfield Somewhere in England'
If you are a Direct Entry Captain - no time whatsoever! As an FO, however, a realistic answer would be a minimum of 2 years at the moment - assuming you have the hours. Depending on what happens with expansion plans it could be considerably longer. There are FOs with thousands of hours of jet experience at easyJet but they cannot get promoted because there are no FOs to replace them due to the unpopularity of TRSS. Not to worry though, easyJet have the solution - DECs! That way if you come to easyJet as a fully qualified and capable FO, you can literally sit back and watch dozens of DECs walk right in front of you to take your command slots. We currently have approximately 100 FOs awaiting command courses (ie jumped through all the hoops and awaiting courses) and many more waiting assessments or are promotable but not gone through the hoops. There are simply not the command courses this year (or next) to absorb these people. In addition, there are many 2000hr+ FOs who will be in the some boat next year. Nonetheless, we still apparently 'need' 20+ DECs this year!
In short, if you are coming here as an FO looking for a 'quick command', you should be extremely careful. The unpalatable truth is that easyJet will always back external candidates before considering the interests of its own FOs. That is particularly so with regards to base allocation, leave priority and promotion. We do not have a seniority list, but in theory once you are on a command or base transfer list your place is set in concrete. The problem is that the concrete remains wet! In practice, you are never there until you are there. For example, there are a number of command courses coming up in the next month or so - the first for months incidentally. I know of a number of people who are high up the list but no one has yet received written confirmation of their place on the course. In other words, as an FO you have no rights and no agreements are currently in place to ensure fair and reasonable treatment. Fortunately we have an increasingly powerful union who are hopefully coming to the end of a long pay dispute - they will then be able to address themselves to unacceptable issues such as this.
In short, if you are coming here as an FO looking for a 'quick command', you should be extremely careful. The unpalatable truth is that easyJet will always back external candidates before considering the interests of its own FOs. That is particularly so with regards to base allocation, leave priority and promotion. We do not have a seniority list, but in theory once you are on a command or base transfer list your place is set in concrete. The problem is that the concrete remains wet! In practice, you are never there until you are there. For example, there are a number of command courses coming up in the next month or so - the first for months incidentally. I know of a number of people who are high up the list but no one has yet received written confirmation of their place on the course. In other words, as an FO you have no rights and no agreements are currently in place to ensure fair and reasonable treatment. Fortunately we have an increasingly powerful union who are hopefully coming to the end of a long pay dispute - they will then be able to address themselves to unacceptable issues such as this.
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From: Sweden
SFO or FO...
Well, I am wondering about this SFO and FO ranking.
As I assume, I will be hired for ezy as a FO, though I have more than 3000hrs and have had a command before but not on hvy a/c. But there is pilots with 1000hrs who gets a SFO ranking.
I don't really understand this. And this TRSS thing as well... It's a big difference as well regarding the payment.
Will there be any changes in the future?
As I assume, I will be hired for ezy as a FO, though I have more than 3000hrs and have had a command before but not on hvy a/c. But there is pilots with 1000hrs who gets a SFO ranking.
I don't really understand this. And this TRSS thing as well... It's a big difference as well regarding the payment.
Will there be any changes in the future?
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From: Boldly going where no split infinitive has gone before..
If you have an un-frozen ATPL you will be an SFO from day 1. TRSS will be the employment method of choice for as long as there are sufficient suitable applicants willing to wear it!
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From: UK
The only reason why TRSS exists is that there are enough people stupid enough to sign up for it. The only advantage of TRSS is that it enables easyJet to pay its pilots less. THERE IS NOTHING IN IT FOR YOU.
Do not lower yourself your standards to take a TRSS position. Have some pride and self-respect. There are other jobs out there which will come your way which will pay a respectable salary and, in all honesty, with better employers.
Do not lower yourself your standards to take a TRSS position. Have some pride and self-respect. There are other jobs out there which will come your way which will pay a respectable salary and, in all honesty, with better employers.
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From: 'An Airfield Somewhere in England'
The only glimmer of hope would be if you are an ex-BA captain as these guys have been a great success for the company. We have a number of them who are straight off 747-400s and 777s - they are regarded as very capable and a delight to work with. Certainly last year we took a number of 55 year-old retiree BA captains but offsetting that is the much lower requirement for DECs this year.
Notwithstanding the above caveat, in the current financial climate and the company's stated aim of taking "less than 20" Airbus and no Boeing DECs this year, your chances of getting into easyJet as a DEC without an Airbus rating are very low.
Notwithstanding the above caveat, in the current financial climate and the company's stated aim of taking "less than 20" Airbus and no Boeing DECs this year, your chances of getting into easyJet as a DEC without an Airbus rating are very low.
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From: Lost
Against my better judgement, is it worth considering forking out for a bus rating then ( say at GECAT) or would you still need the magic 500 hrs on type? Even though you had several thousand hours on other Medium jets like Dc9, MD 80, Bae 146 ?
At least you would start on the Higher Salary if you had to pay for it your self.
At least you would start on the Higher Salary if you had to pay for it your self.
