Easy - Pay Rise
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From: 'An Airfield Somewhere in England'
I do not want in any way to disparage the ex-CC members who all did their best I believe. I do, however, want to make a point of how impressed I am with the current CC - none of whom had any significant part in the contraversial issues of the past (loss of FOs' loyalty bonus and other conditions, TRSS, 5/2-5/4 etc). These are good people who simply want to the best on behalf of us all. If we choose not to give them clout they will not be able to achieve all they might otherwise do.
Until recently I was one of those who had heard the rumours and basically decided that BALPA was full of self-seeking individuals who had conspicuously failed to represent all members of the pilot community. I simply do not know the fine detail of what happened in the past, but I know that right now the new CC are fighting hard for us. Right now they are in difficult negotiations with the company, and seem to be a long way from getting any sort of agreement. It is absolutely vital we give them every chance to win a deal that is good for us and good for the company. We all know that there are huge problems with our management - but nothing is a 'done deal'. Cultures can change and the way they change is to 'speak softly and carry a big stick' to quote Theodore Roosevelt! The 'speaking softly' will come in the form of constructive dialogue with our managers to change the way they do business. The 'big stick' will come in the form of high BALPA membership and thus ultimately the credible threat of industrial action in the event of us being stuffed. There is simply no other way. I frankly do not relish paying £56 per month and have had to remove a large chunk of my private medical insurance to pay for it. Nonetheless, I feel in all conscience I can do nothing else.
I am unashamedly one of those who really likes working for easyJet. As said previously, there is so much that is right here. Indeed our success is such that easyJet are about to announce a tidy profit for last year which will inevitably result in much popping of champagne, mutual backslapping and big bonuses for people in top positions. I cannot sit idly by and watch the progressive erosion of our terms and conditions while big bonuses are handed out to our senior managers and board members. Surprisingly enough, the high fuel price will somehow not affect the level of those 'well earned' bonuses! A strong BALPA will ensure that those who actually did the work to obtain that profit also receive their share of easJet's continued success.
I want to fight for pensions that will not lead to poverty in our old age, private health care for all pilots, best rostering practices, no DECs as long as there are suitable FOs to promote, equitable leave allocation, transparent base transfer arrangements and a host of other issuses. I intend to play my part in making easyJet the most successful company around. Success to me means creating the safest, financially stable airline possible as well as building an environment where all employees share in the profitability their hard work helped to create. One of the cornerstones of that success will be a substantially increased membership of BALPA. I would encourage all those who have never joined, or possibly even left through disillusionment, to reconsider their position and give our new CC the support it needs at this critical stage in our company's development.
Until recently I was one of those who had heard the rumours and basically decided that BALPA was full of self-seeking individuals who had conspicuously failed to represent all members of the pilot community. I simply do not know the fine detail of what happened in the past, but I know that right now the new CC are fighting hard for us. Right now they are in difficult negotiations with the company, and seem to be a long way from getting any sort of agreement. It is absolutely vital we give them every chance to win a deal that is good for us and good for the company. We all know that there are huge problems with our management - but nothing is a 'done deal'. Cultures can change and the way they change is to 'speak softly and carry a big stick' to quote Theodore Roosevelt! The 'speaking softly' will come in the form of constructive dialogue with our managers to change the way they do business. The 'big stick' will come in the form of high BALPA membership and thus ultimately the credible threat of industrial action in the event of us being stuffed. There is simply no other way. I frankly do not relish paying £56 per month and have had to remove a large chunk of my private medical insurance to pay for it. Nonetheless, I feel in all conscience I can do nothing else.
I am unashamedly one of those who really likes working for easyJet. As said previously, there is so much that is right here. Indeed our success is such that easyJet are about to announce a tidy profit for last year which will inevitably result in much popping of champagne, mutual backslapping and big bonuses for people in top positions. I cannot sit idly by and watch the progressive erosion of our terms and conditions while big bonuses are handed out to our senior managers and board members. Surprisingly enough, the high fuel price will somehow not affect the level of those 'well earned' bonuses! A strong BALPA will ensure that those who actually did the work to obtain that profit also receive their share of easJet's continued success.
I want to fight for pensions that will not lead to poverty in our old age, private health care for all pilots, best rostering practices, no DECs as long as there are suitable FOs to promote, equitable leave allocation, transparent base transfer arrangements and a host of other issuses. I intend to play my part in making easyJet the most successful company around. Success to me means creating the safest, financially stable airline possible as well as building an environment where all employees share in the profitability their hard work helped to create. One of the cornerstones of that success will be a substantially increased membership of BALPA. I would encourage all those who have never joined, or possibly even left through disillusionment, to reconsider their position and give our new CC the support it needs at this critical stage in our company's development.
Last edited by Norman Stanley Fletcher; 2nd November 2005 at 11:51.
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Just for information, I shall be joining EZ soon (RHS) and was wondering where the information on the new terms and conditions will be posted when it is agreed.
Incidentally, some of the threads are pretty negative about the company. Is there really such a blockage in transfers from right to left?
Incidentally, some of the threads are pretty negative about the company. Is there really such a blockage in transfers from right to left?
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From: Boldly going where no split infinitive has gone before..
minclean,
About 12-18mths aftter obtaining the requisite 3000 "Factored" hours (Depending on suitable check results, reccomendations etc.), but probably reducing in the next year or so. Slower then it was, but still quicker than most!!!
About 12-18mths aftter obtaining the requisite 3000 "Factored" hours (Depending on suitable check results, reccomendations etc.), but probably reducing in the next year or so. Slower then it was, but still quicker than most!!!
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From: Surrey UK
enjoy the 5 transatlantics a month
Enjoying it?? You bet your bright orange ar$e I am! Did I mention I get paid more and only work 12 days a month?
One swallow doesn't make a summer, but the move I made could not have been better so far.
Have a nice winter Scottie!
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From: Peoples Republic of EU
I will thanks 
Each to their own, I enjoy being in my own house everynight, you go and enjoy your 5* hotel/resorts
12 days a month? Ooh I could consider that
Each to their own, I enjoy being in my own house everynight, you go and enjoy your 5* hotel/resorts
12 days a month? Ooh I could consider that
Last edited by Scottie; 5th November 2005 at 10:48.
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From: uk
Well said A4, the thing is we are the intelligent ones who work for the company and we are able to see the blatantly obvious. Problem is management can't....just hoping this new bloke shakes things up a bit.
I too wanted to stay at Easy , for me it was ideal, but sadly have had enough and I have decided to look elsewhere. I am a Balpa member but I feel let down by them, especially over the 5/2/5/4 shambles. One thing that really p****s me off though are those people, on pprune or at work, who are stuck at EZY due family, money or whatever who wil not hear a bad word said against their precious airline. They jump down your throat when you dare to criticise the airline or Balpa, they become so defendant that they actually become totally unreasonable.
Yes we need more pilots at EZY to become members of Balpa, but we also need more pilots to vote no until we get a good deal. Not getting scared like they did over 5/2/5/4, because the company were threatening random rostering, and not voting yes because they think that it is the best we are going to get...if its not good enough vote no.
I will be surprised if we even match inflation with this pay deal, no staff travel, no medical cover, crap pension etc etc....but i wont be surprised, after the deal has been announced, that some people will still be on here or at work defending everything.
I too wanted to stay at Easy , for me it was ideal, but sadly have had enough and I have decided to look elsewhere. I am a Balpa member but I feel let down by them, especially over the 5/2/5/4 shambles. One thing that really p****s me off though are those people, on pprune or at work, who are stuck at EZY due family, money or whatever who wil not hear a bad word said against their precious airline. They jump down your throat when you dare to criticise the airline or Balpa, they become so defendant that they actually become totally unreasonable.
Yes we need more pilots at EZY to become members of Balpa, but we also need more pilots to vote no until we get a good deal. Not getting scared like they did over 5/2/5/4, because the company were threatening random rostering, and not voting yes because they think that it is the best we are going to get...if its not good enough vote no.
I will be surprised if we even match inflation with this pay deal, no staff travel, no medical cover, crap pension etc etc....but i wont be surprised, after the deal has been announced, that some people will still be on here or at work defending everything.
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From: Europe
OK, I have just joined BALPA to get a vote on this latest round.
Imagine if we all joined, if only till this latest round is done and dusted, we may just get a deal like VIrgin (chance would be a fine thing).
Imagine if we all joined, if only till this latest round is done and dusted, we may just get a deal like VIrgin (chance would be a fine thing).
Ut Sementem Feeceris
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From: UK
Well done Oleo. Suggest you get registered on the BALPA website and have a browse in the Easy forum.
Any more takers ............... ? It's painless and you might just improve your lot (as opposed to free loading off everyone else.....)
A4
Any more takers ............... ? It's painless and you might just improve your lot (as opposed to free loading off everyone else.....)
A4
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From: UK
I just filled out the form too. I feel bad that I'll have to leave the IPA (who have been so good to me), but I made the mistake of reading the 10 year book that just landed on my doorstep (is this the annual bonus? beats the arse wipes from last year) and got so cross I just have to do something about it.
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From: UK
Oleo & HundredPercentPlease.
Well done. Go to www.balpa.org and join in the easyJet forum there. Full of topical debate.
It's pretty obvious nothing is going to be offered on the table we will probably end up with less that what we started with... So let's give BALPA and each other 100% support and show the company what we want- A LIFE!
come on let's (fly) join balpa!
Well done. Go to www.balpa.org and join in the easyJet forum there. Full of topical debate.
It's pretty obvious nothing is going to be offered on the table we will probably end up with less that what we started with... So let's give BALPA and each other 100% support and show the company what we want- A LIFE!
come on let's (fly) join balpa!
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From: Peoples Republic of EU
Flew with a couple of people this week who have also just signed up to BALPA.
Those who are non-members reading this please join. The more members the better chance we have of getting what we want
Those who are non-members reading this please join. The more members the better chance we have of getting what we want
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From: 'An Airfield Somewhere in England'
Well done chaps - this is truly a critical moment for the pilots within the company. You have made the right choice to be in the right battle at the right time - your support is enormously appreciated.
