How Many Pilots pull a Sickie when there not?
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This must have been a little old wind up thread.No one could be so stupid as to ignore such sound advice from Silberfuchs - unless of course, they were so ill advised as to advertise idiotic mendacity on the forum floor anyway.
Tomorrow falls the axe upon the neck of fair faking flying Fiona?
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Sorry. Had to bite the bait.
Dictionary - Until you know exactly what the circumstances are, don't be tarnishing all young pilot's the same, saying they look gift horses in the mouth.
I've been at FlyBE 2 years now, and have pretty much loved every minute of it. HOWEVER, they have absolutely no regard whatsoever for crews personal life, and couldn't give two hoots about night-stopping crews for 3 weeks out of 4. Keeping crew away from their families; adding on extra sectors at will, meaning no chance whatsoever of being able to plan any aspect of your life ; no 'reward' for being sh*t upon - a measly pay deal with no disruption payments that will ever reach our bank accounts ; oh, and the best one - shafting Dash-8 crew and putting new-joiners with 250hrs straight onto the 146 without even a sim check, and some measly bond instead of what the rest of us have had to fork out.
I don't condone FF - it's not the way to go about things as you only end up messing up someone else's life.
But don't be saying we don't know how lucky we are and how nice we've got it.
Oh, and FF is cabin crew, not a pilot, so why you decided to have a go at us, I'm not quite sure.
Dictionary - Until you know exactly what the circumstances are, don't be tarnishing all young pilot's the same, saying they look gift horses in the mouth.
I've been at FlyBE 2 years now, and have pretty much loved every minute of it. HOWEVER, they have absolutely no regard whatsoever for crews personal life, and couldn't give two hoots about night-stopping crews for 3 weeks out of 4. Keeping crew away from their families; adding on extra sectors at will, meaning no chance whatsoever of being able to plan any aspect of your life ; no 'reward' for being sh*t upon - a measly pay deal with no disruption payments that will ever reach our bank accounts ; oh, and the best one - shafting Dash-8 crew and putting new-joiners with 250hrs straight onto the 146 without even a sim check, and some measly bond instead of what the rest of us have had to fork out.
I don't condone FF - it's not the way to go about things as you only end up messing up someone else's life.
But don't be saying we don't know how lucky we are and how nice we've got it.
Oh, and FF is cabin crew, not a pilot, so why you decided to have a go at us, I'm not quite sure.
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Ummm, I am doing something about it. I'm leaving. As have over 90 people in the past few months. I think that is a very strong pointer to the fact that people are getting peed off with such terrible roster disruption.
I'm not asking to have a roster that revolves around my social life, but when you only work 4 days out of a month from your HOME base, and spend the rest of the time in a hotel, it makes it quite difficult to have one.
Please also don't insinuate that I'm immature and unprofessional. These forums are for people to air their grievances. If you don't like reading people complaining, DON'T READ THESE FORUMS!!!
I have no reason to speak to MW. I think he quite clearly knows why so many people have left - although saying that he doesn't seem to want to do anything about it and sort the root of all problems!
P.S. If you know MW so well, how come you haven't got a job with FlyBE?!?!?! Positions are always held for his 'friends'!
I'm not asking to have a roster that revolves around my social life, but when you only work 4 days out of a month from your HOME base, and spend the rest of the time in a hotel, it makes it quite difficult to have one.
Please also don't insinuate that I'm immature and unprofessional. These forums are for people to air their grievances. If you don't like reading people complaining, DON'T READ THESE FORUMS!!!
I have no reason to speak to MW. I think he quite clearly knows why so many people have left - although saying that he doesn't seem to want to do anything about it and sort the root of all problems!
P.S. If you know MW so well, how come you haven't got a job with FlyBE?!?!?! Positions are always held for his 'friends'!
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ILS 26L - get off your soapbox
The airline where I work has a very high number of NON SICK SICKIES amongst CC. That is a FACT
And pulling a stunt like this only screws your fellow crewmembers - that's where the poor CRM is my deluded friend
The airline where I work has a very high number of NON SICK SICKIES amongst CC. That is a FACT
And pulling a stunt like this only screws your fellow crewmembers - that's where the poor CRM is my deluded friend
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Captains should stand up for the rights of their crews.Companies should employ sufficient people to cover Standbys.
Cabin Crews should be re-educated.
CRM is an invention of the Socialist Layabout Party.
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Although many cabin crew (and pilots to a lesser extent) do pull sickies (amazing how its on Saturday morning most of the time), I am also amazed at how frequently crew members show up when clearly unfit to work. This is an unfortunate side effect of 'bullying' from management - ie. sacking or threatening to sack people on probation whos sickness record is deemed unacceptable even if genuine, or denying people chance of promotion based on sickness record.
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In my hardly humble opinion, the captain is responsible for the welfare of all the crew.Therefore, if someone turns up sick (unfit) the captain has a duty to call crewing and require a standby to be provided. Obviously this might not work too easily at the start of a four sector early. But it should be feasible at the end of the second sector, assuming return to a company base before launching on the third sortie and assuming that the crew member is still alive to be relieved.
Furthermore and depending on the type of aircraft; I have always considered that a captain should have in mind the physical needs of his crew, for hot meals, loo breaks and so on, before entering into discretion.
Captains are usually in fairly short supply and are not so easily replaced as useless cannon fodder. They owe it to their crews to stand up to Crewing/Management in an effort to smooth and improve the quality of life for all concerned.
