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Four or five trips per month usually one will be long range (LAX,SFO,HKG,NRT,MEX,CPT,JNB), the rest will be a mix of three or four day trips. There's no real short haul work unles you're on reserve and get to ferry an aircraft to the maintenance facility at Cardiff, which is pretty unusual. In terms of medium haul, well that really depends on how you define medium. There's a daily Cairo but thats about as short as it gets.
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Unexpected Type Changes...
Just getting back to the issue which seems to be worrying quite a few of you: Expecting to start on LH and being shunted to another type.
Well, that sort of thing happenned to me post 9/11 and I admit that I was lucky to end up back on LH after only 2 years. For the guys with start dates early next year, things are different and here is why:
The B777 fleet is currently very short of F/Os and the training system is expecting something like 43 F/Os before July. BA would not be recruiting DEP's onto LH unless they really had to. DEP's tend to be a higher training risk and experience is accrued more slowly.
There are many SH F/Os who are annoyed at being stuck where they are since they too would like LH. What's worse is that post 2006, the chance of a SH to LH move will be smaller as everything will tend to stagnate for a while.
In summary, if you have an early start date Jan-Mar, I think things are looking good for you. Any later and you should keep your eye on the situation. It can change pretty quickly!
Once you start type training, I would give you a 90% chance of staying on that fleet.
LFW
Well, that sort of thing happenned to me post 9/11 and I admit that I was lucky to end up back on LH after only 2 years. For the guys with start dates early next year, things are different and here is why:
The B777 fleet is currently very short of F/Os and the training system is expecting something like 43 F/Os before July. BA would not be recruiting DEP's onto LH unless they really had to. DEP's tend to be a higher training risk and experience is accrued more slowly.
There are many SH F/Os who are annoyed at being stuck where they are since they too would like LH. What's worse is that post 2006, the chance of a SH to LH move will be smaller as everything will tend to stagnate for a while.
In summary, if you have an early start date Jan-Mar, I think things are looking good for you. Any later and you should keep your eye on the situation. It can change pretty quickly!
Once you start type training, I would give you a 90% chance of staying on that fleet.
LFW
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How long did it take for you guys who have been accepted to find out you were successful after the sim day? (Or equally not successful!)
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TFG (still waiting after 2 weeks)
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TFG (still waiting after 2 weeks)
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I would imagine that if you are ex-Military then you should be hear in the affirmative very shortly.
Alas I suspect BA, once again, will select mostly civilians to fill their places which will cost them in the long run.
LF
Alas I suspect BA, once again, will select mostly civilians to fill their places which will cost them in the long run.
LF
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I must not take the bait.
I must not take the bait.
I must not take the bait.
I seem to remember last time I did this, both Flashy and I were moderated (removed). Hopefully history will repeat itself.
I must not take the bait.
I must not take the bait.
I seem to remember last time I did this, both Flashy and I were moderated (removed). Hopefully history will repeat itself.
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The truth,once again,hurts.
As for civilian airlines hiring civilians of course they do.
However have you ever asked yourself why airlines base their operation on a military type structure with rank and respect?
The reason is that it works and the more ex-military employees a company has the better.
One of the problems at BA now is that there is a lack of respect for flight crew. This is mainly due to a shortage of people who have served their time for their Country and had it too easy in a liberal society without discipline or respect.
National service is sadly missed in our society. It would at least teach respect for ones betters.
LF
As for civilian airlines hiring civilians of course they do.
However have you ever asked yourself why airlines base their operation on a military type structure with rank and respect?
The reason is that it works and the more ex-military employees a company has the better.
One of the problems at BA now is that there is a lack of respect for flight crew. This is mainly due to a shortage of people who have served their time for their Country and had it too easy in a liberal society without discipline or respect.
National service is sadly missed in our society. It would at least teach respect for ones betters.
LF
Oh come on, I actually find Lord Flash quite amusing you know. Less of this namby, pamby wet pants attitude or it's the Women's Royal Auxiliary Balloon Corps for you my lad!!!
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The problem is not so much that the post is something to laugh about, it has got nothing to do with the thread!
So start up a new thread if you want to spill your beans about lack of respect for a pilot.
Let's get back to the original postings pls.
ps. could somebody write me a pm about what to expect for the BAC1-11 sim check and what you did to prepare for it? Any standard pitch power settings etc?
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SZ
So start up a new thread if you want to spill your beans about lack of respect for a pilot.
Let's get back to the original postings pls.
ps. could somebody write me a pm about what to expect for the BAC1-11 sim check and what you did to prepare for it? Any standard pitch power settings etc?
Thanks
SZ
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I am afraid if you cannot take a few, quite obvious, windups from Lord F, then please steer well clear of BA!
There are many genuine frustrations in BA, borne out of departments that have nothing to do with flying, ineptness, stupid instructions that are best disregarded, and a company that really is still stuck in the 60s as a nationalised industry...
There are many genuine frustrations in BA, borne out of departments that have nothing to do with flying, ineptness, stupid instructions that are best disregarded, and a company that really is still stuck in the 60s as a nationalised industry...
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"I would imagine that if you are ex-Military then you should be hear in the affirmative very shortly"
Flashart is correct even though his grammar is not very good.
The ex-RAF guys run BA now. Management is becoming very very authoritarian and it's quite sad to see.
Flashart is correct even though his grammar is not very good.
The ex-RAF guys run BA now. Management is becoming very very authoritarian and it's quite sad to see.
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Before I joined my current airline I heard the same nonsence regards military vs. civilians.
As our airline had a large contingent of military pilots and being a civilian myself I expected to be treated with prejudice. To my surprise the whole bunch turned out to be fantastic both on the airplane and downroute. I think there will always be exceptions but on the whole they are just pilots sharing the same office space and doing the same job. So the less we worry about where we come from and more about where the accountants would like us to end up the better. Military or Civilian does not bother me....................Just SHOW ME THE MONEY.....
As our airline had a large contingent of military pilots and being a civilian myself I expected to be treated with prejudice. To my surprise the whole bunch turned out to be fantastic both on the airplane and downroute. I think there will always be exceptions but on the whole they are just pilots sharing the same office space and doing the same job. So the less we worry about where we come from and more about where the accountants would like us to end up the better. Military or Civilian does not bother me....................Just SHOW ME THE MONEY.....
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grumpy sod,
I like your style, you will fit in well at BA.
When you do the induction course visit pre-ops, for your fleet, on the 3rd floor of Compass Centre and have a word. I doubt it will be granted until line training is finished.
cheers
zzz
I like your style, you will fit in well at BA.
When you do the induction course visit pre-ops, for your fleet, on the 3rd floor of Compass Centre and have a word. I doubt it will be granted until line training is finished.
cheers
zzz