WIZZ Air ....Anbody?
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WIZZ Air ....Anbody?
Just curious if anyone out there especially in Eastern Europe knows much about this company.
Apparently, they are a new, low-cost starting in May and HQ'd in BUD with an outstaion in Katowice, Poland. According to a flightinternational.com post, they are looking for both Capts & FOs and have pretty minimal requiremnts for both. Looking @ their website www.wizzair.com they have selected and leased 8 A320s to date. No mention of pay, benefits etc.
Anybody know more than this? Be interested to find out more including the background of the company CEO - Joszef Varadi (maybe ex-Malev?). Looks like the low-cost bug has finally hit Eastern Europe!
Apparently, they are a new, low-cost starting in May and HQ'd in BUD with an outstaion in Katowice, Poland. According to a flightinternational.com post, they are looking for both Capts & FOs and have pretty minimal requiremnts for both. Looking @ their website www.wizzair.com they have selected and leased 8 A320s to date. No mention of pay, benefits etc.
Anybody know more than this? Be interested to find out more including the background of the company CEO - Joszef Varadi (maybe ex-Malev?). Looks like the low-cost bug has finally hit Eastern Europe!
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More or less correct.6 a320 planned in may but still not has the full financial base for it.2 of them based in Budapest ,the remaining in Katowice.
Pilot recruitment finished,they fill now their database for possible future expansion.
F/O salary eur25.000/year without tax.Tax in Hungary is 48%,thank to our post-communist government.
Pilot recruitment finished,they fill now their database for possible future expansion.
F/O salary eur25.000/year without tax.Tax in Hungary is 48%,thank to our post-communist government.
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Funny about recruitment finished! An EU agency started advertising today (yesterday) for both Capts and FOs with info on who to send your application. If they have finished, why is an agency advertising on their behalf? Something funny here! Even on their own website, it says they are looking for pilots and that was posted about 10 days ago.
But maybe you are right - just for a database ie. for future and there is no immediate vacancy. However, the ad should state that this is for future vacancies, otherwise it's a bit misleading.
Thanks for the info though.
But maybe you are right - just for a database ie. for future and there is no immediate vacancy. However, the ad should state that this is for future vacancies, otherwise it's a bit misleading.
Thanks for the info though.
If it were me I'd probably not call it Wizz Air, too easy to get the wrong connotation in some countries.
We have a struggling Japanese restaurant here called Kasi. Maybe not quite the same spelling but still, would you go and get raw fish in the Kasi?
We have a struggling Japanese restaurant here called Kasi. Maybe not quite the same spelling but still, would you go and get raw fish in the Kasi?
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I have sent 2 emails to 2 different addresses yesterday stating that I was interested in the position, could they send me some details but no reply so far.
SOUNDS good, but smells dodgy!
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SOUNDS good, but smells dodgy!
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A friend of mine applied there around January 15th and was being invited for interview for Feb. 2nd, but he didn´t go there... Instead he told me about end of Jan. and I sent my application immediatly, but was told everything is filled a few days ago.. They kept it in the database..
Seems they got enough applications before starting advertising..
BTW: both, my friend and me we didn´t cover the min. requirements, no multicrew experience and just about 220 hrs..
maybe that´s the reason ;-)
Seems they got enough applications before starting advertising..
BTW: both, my friend and me we didn´t cover the min. requirements, no multicrew experience and just about 220 hrs..
maybe that´s the reason ;-)
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Say WHO told you about "everything is filled"? Did THEY reply to you?
I sent my application immediatly, but was told everything is filled a few days ago.. They kept it in the database..
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Like I said, a third-party agency - flightinternational.com sent me a personal email yesterday saying they were looking for pilots and how to apply. Why would an agency be sending out specific solicitations if all positions were filled? That is bad business and gives no credibility.
WRT experience, can't recall what the the company website says, but the info I was sent CA= mim 3000hrs TT; min 1500 PIC multi-crew, multi-engine; min 500 airline jet aircraft and ICAO ATPL with Fluent English. The FO was much less - 300 TT, 100ME ; ICAO ATPL or CPL and minimum intermediate English.
As some one who has 7200+, three ICAO ATPLs, three jet type ratings and 5000+ jet time, I can safely say that these are MINIMUM requirements. Most companys have another set of unpublished requirements called competitive requirements which is solely based on supply and demand and is the REAL quals they hire by. So, I would suggest that certainly for the FO position, you would need at least TWICE the experience level given for them to call you.
Interestingly, I see they say nothing about an A320 type rating or even experience on type. This probably means that they will look at those people first and if they get enough applicants, then they will not bother with the rest - until they actually start operating and expanding. Hope this helps those who are wondering why they have not heard back. My suggestion would be, keep building those hours and reapply once they are up and running. A cover letter/CV and a phone call every 30-45 days should do the trick. But keep in mind, you WILL need to meet or better still exceed their minimums. That's how airline hiring departments work.
WRT experience, can't recall what the the company website says, but the info I was sent CA= mim 3000hrs TT; min 1500 PIC multi-crew, multi-engine; min 500 airline jet aircraft and ICAO ATPL with Fluent English. The FO was much less - 300 TT, 100ME ; ICAO ATPL or CPL and minimum intermediate English.
As some one who has 7200+, three ICAO ATPLs, three jet type ratings and 5000+ jet time, I can safely say that these are MINIMUM requirements. Most companys have another set of unpublished requirements called competitive requirements which is solely based on supply and demand and is the REAL quals they hire by. So, I would suggest that certainly for the FO position, you would need at least TWICE the experience level given for them to call you.
Interestingly, I see they say nothing about an A320 type rating or even experience on type. This probably means that they will look at those people first and if they get enough applicants, then they will not bother with the rest - until they actually start operating and expanding. Hope this helps those who are wondering why they have not heard back. My suggestion would be, keep building those hours and reapply once they are up and running. A cover letter/CV and a phone call every 30-45 days should do the trick. But keep in mind, you WILL need to meet or better still exceed their minimums. That's how airline hiring departments work.
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I am well in excess of their minimum requirements for a DE Captain.
A simple acknowledgement of my existence, or a fcuk off would have done the trick.
No reply at all makes me feel SUSPICIOUS, like there's something to hide.
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A simple acknowledgement of my existence, or a fcuk off would have done the trick.
No reply at all makes me feel SUSPICIOUS, like there's something to hide.
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Gents!
Beleive or not I have first-hand info about wizz.
The CEO is the previous MALEV CEO,a very talent and successfull MANAGER.The politics fired him from MALEV after he reduced all losses and 2 days after 11th Sept arrived to SEA "let's discuss the B737-NG rates again".
Our current government is very gratefull to the talent people nowadays but it is another story.
I am from Malev but please keep threat it confidental.
2 A32O going to be based in BUD.17 pilots -CAPTs and F/Os will leave my employer on 1st o March.14 from the CRJ5OO 2 from Fokker 7O,1 f/O from B737-NG.
The future we will see,My soul is with him to create a low-cost carrier in Hungary and very proud it is created by Hungarians.
So the first round is filled.In case WIZZ business plan works,more and more 32Os will be based in BUD and recruitments will be published.Check the website of WIZZ,the F/O vacancy has been removed now.
Yes,WIZZ plan is to create the East-European Ryanair,4O busses planed within 5 years but step by step.The Chief Pilot in BUD was CAPT on TU-154,B737 (MALEV) B747-4OO(EVA) and finally Chief Pilot on CRJ5OO(MALEV).
WIZZ wishes to open other bases in East Europe,they dont want to compare with Ryan,easy.
According to Malev,agreement established with Hainan Airlines to make BUD (PAX and Cargo) their E.U. hub,BUD-Peking,BUD-Shanghai from August,3O wannabe on various aircraft courses(F7O,CRJ).
3rd 767 arrives in august,I have the slot for 767 type-rating 1st March so I will leave my "beloved" 737.
767s will be replaced by 33Os from next year as the result of the very hard pressure from the E.U.Yeh,we are flag-carrier.
That is for now,please everybody wish for us good luck,as I do it for all of You.
Dear All of You!
Please be a little patient!It is only a start-up low-cost carrier.
Belive me,the management are very fair,but they MUST take-off on 1st May.
P.s. :I am not working there!
Beleive or not I have first-hand info about wizz.
The CEO is the previous MALEV CEO,a very talent and successfull MANAGER.The politics fired him from MALEV after he reduced all losses and 2 days after 11th Sept arrived to SEA "let's discuss the B737-NG rates again".
Our current government is very gratefull to the talent people nowadays but it is another story.
I am from Malev but please keep threat it confidental.
2 A32O going to be based in BUD.17 pilots -CAPTs and F/Os will leave my employer on 1st o March.14 from the CRJ5OO 2 from Fokker 7O,1 f/O from B737-NG.
The future we will see,My soul is with him to create a low-cost carrier in Hungary and very proud it is created by Hungarians.
So the first round is filled.In case WIZZ business plan works,more and more 32Os will be based in BUD and recruitments will be published.Check the website of WIZZ,the F/O vacancy has been removed now.
Yes,WIZZ plan is to create the East-European Ryanair,4O busses planed within 5 years but step by step.The Chief Pilot in BUD was CAPT on TU-154,B737 (MALEV) B747-4OO(EVA) and finally Chief Pilot on CRJ5OO(MALEV).
WIZZ wishes to open other bases in East Europe,they dont want to compare with Ryan,easy.
According to Malev,agreement established with Hainan Airlines to make BUD (PAX and Cargo) their E.U. hub,BUD-Peking,BUD-Shanghai from August,3O wannabe on various aircraft courses(F7O,CRJ).
3rd 767 arrives in august,I have the slot for 767 type-rating 1st March so I will leave my "beloved" 737.
767s will be replaced by 33Os from next year as the result of the very hard pressure from the E.U.Yeh,we are flag-carrier.
That is for now,please everybody wish for us good luck,as I do it for all of You.
Dear All of You!
Please be a little patient!It is only a start-up low-cost carrier.
Belive me,the management are very fair,but they MUST take-off on 1st May.
P.s. :I am not working there!
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With a local salary and a 48% tax rate won't see a lot of people leaving their present employment to go to Hungary on the chance things might work out for Wizz.
Read that J.Varadi the new ceo of wizz was involved in a scandal while still at Malev
http://www.airlinequality.com/news/malev.htm
Read that J.Varadi the new ceo of wizz was involved in a scandal while still at Malev
http://www.airlinequality.com/news/malev.htm
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Scandal:
J. Varadi was promoted for Malev CEO during the previous governmet.
Elections in 2002 was won by socialist party.
Next month a "president" came to Malev delegated by the ministy of transport.
In february 2003 scandal:the socialist president has "interests" in the company that won a contract with Malev.
"President" resigned,J. Varadi is fired,although did not signed anything but was attacked by the ministry,because he was the CEO!!
The "well informed PRESS" is always in my heart.
J. Varadi was promoted for Malev CEO during the previous governmet.
Elections in 2002 was won by socialist party.
Next month a "president" came to Malev delegated by the ministy of transport.
In february 2003 scandal:the socialist president has "interests" in the company that won a contract with Malev.
"President" resigned,J. Varadi is fired,although did not signed anything but was attacked by the ministry,because he was the CEO!!
The "well informed PRESS" is always in my heart.
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Wow if he had so many difficulties with his own government while working at the state owned Malev, I wonder how things will go for him now competing against them with Wizz.
Have they managed to get an AOC yet to operate out of Hungary. Seems like a very short time to make things work before May.
Anyway wish them the best of luck. Always good to see new companies emerging.
Have they managed to get an AOC yet to operate out of Hungary. Seems like a very short time to make things work before May.
Anyway wish them the best of luck. Always good to see new companies emerging.
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Wizz air isnt a hungarian creation, but Polish, although the Hungarians are heavily involved.
Wizz air has selected Katowice, Poland, as it's principal base and has signed long term partnership with the airport manager GTL. The airline will launch services in may linking the city with hungary and destinations in Western Europe, later adding services to other eastern european cities.
It is leasing 8 A320s, 2 to be based in Budapest while the other 6 will be based in Katowice.
Wizz air has selected Katowice, Poland, as it's principal base and has signed long term partnership with the airport manager GTL. The airline will launch services in may linking the city with hungary and destinations in Western Europe, later adding services to other eastern european cities.
It is leasing 8 A320s, 2 to be based in Budapest while the other 6 will be based in Katowice.
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On the Polish side
I have very sound information (I don't work for Wizz) that the Polish operation will recruit Poles for crews and then when they can't find anymore pilots and Cabin Crew with the right criteria they will then look for pilots from outside of Poland, best to brush up your Polish I guess 
. Hope this helps.
. Hope this helps.
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Do you know if the flights from Katowice will be up and running for the 1st May ?
Do you know how long the A320 type rating takes for a F/O with wet drills, fire drills etc...etc... till you get on line ?
Good luck
New F/O
Do you know how long the A320 type rating takes for a F/O with wet drills, fire drills etc...etc... till you get on line ?
Good luck
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So , if I'm not rated in the A320 I can forget it, even if I'm an astronaut. It is not going to take them very long to figure out that anyone with lots of time will take the A320 ticket and bog off to Etihad or somewhere that needs an Electric bus ticket. Thanks for the rating. !!
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Rosbif:
Thanks for the senseless reply to an overall informative thread.
And yes people like you (or atleast portraying the attitude you are displaying, since i don't know you) could be astronaut and would not make the cut.
So far they(W!ZZ) are trying to create an open culture where everyone, who has taken the effort to explore w!zz, can get a chance!
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Thanks for the senseless reply to an overall informative thread.
And yes people like you (or atleast portraying the attitude you are displaying, since i don't know you) could be astronaut and would not make the cut.
So far they(W!ZZ) are trying to create an open culture where everyone, who has taken the effort to explore w!zz, can get a chance!
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It is very simple.
Things works on the same way LIKE EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
Wizz receives some free training for the A320 as the Airbuses are new in this region.(East Europe)
Boeing 737-800s were also investigated.
Wizz sends the locals to this training and they have enter into training bond.
On the other hand paralell with the training advertise and recruit type-rated pilots.
If the number of the trained (and bonded) and type-rated pilots are not enough,offers job for non-rated guys.
I am very interested in that airline,who do not follow this way,(mainly in the low-cost sector)if you have any information about it,I would appretiate very much to drop me a PM,mainly if they are operating B747-400 or Airbus 340.
Finally to ALL of You who has sent me PM,I will answer each.
But for avoiding misunderstandig,I DONT WORK FOR WIZZ as I have stable job at MALEV (although who knows the future in this industry??????),only wish them the best.
This low-cost operation does not exist in Hungary present days,but I am sure someone will do it.I hope it will be Wizz.
Things works on the same way LIKE EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
Wizz receives some free training for the A320 as the Airbuses are new in this region.(East Europe)
Boeing 737-800s were also investigated.
Wizz sends the locals to this training and they have enter into training bond.
On the other hand paralell with the training advertise and recruit type-rated pilots.
If the number of the trained (and bonded) and type-rated pilots are not enough,offers job for non-rated guys.
I am very interested in that airline,who do not follow this way,(mainly in the low-cost sector)if you have any information about it,I would appretiate very much to drop me a PM,mainly if they are operating B747-400 or Airbus 340.
Finally to ALL of You who has sent me PM,I will answer each.
But for avoiding misunderstandig,I DONT WORK FOR WIZZ as I have stable job at MALEV (although who knows the future in this industry??????),only wish them the best.
This low-cost operation does not exist in Hungary present days,but I am sure someone will do it.I hope it will be Wizz.