Airbus vs Boeing

[Lemurian]

kbrockman,
Quote :"Just a wild guess but I think he was referring to the SAUDI incident.
"
Spot on ! Thanks !
You see ? Too busy criticizing the 'Bus to know about incidents on his airplane !

[GE90115BL2]

Well let me see..............3 landing gears replaced on 330's and 340-600's in CX alone in the last 3 years. All about 5 to 6 million to fix. FACT

How many on CX Boeing A/C in the last 20 years? NONE, even after heavy landings.

Not too sure about the Saudi incident, give me the details with true facts about what actually failed and came through the wing, then I can comment.

[18-Wheeler]

3/-The RDDMI is just another instrument -part of the standby flight instruments- and has two selections VOR/ADFs. I agree that its integration has been a problem BUT, contrarily to what you write, the ND displays correct course/radial informations. Therefore, one can perform VOR, VOR/D, ADF approaches without any trouble. If anything, I prefer the Airbus set-up to the one you are using.
Another uninformed myth shot down... ( not surprising, you guys usually go for the hype without any prior background check).

FWIW on most (I think) of the Qantas A330's there are no ADF's ftted.

Don't know if anyone mentioned it but which aeroplane has a nice big tray table to put your food on/ sleep on, whatever! -AIRBUS
Comfort comes first!

does the 777 have a tray table? I don't know?

Just move the seat back and there's plenty of room. It's not difficult FFS.

Oh and one other thing, I recently walked past a framed picture in a simulator building and had to look twice at what I saw, I picture of a DOUGLAS DC-3 with the caption below it saying BOEING DC-3 !!!!! How on EARTH

So how is that Boeing's fault?

i like the boeing FMC, airbus' isnt as user friendly in my opinion

That's simply a matter of training. I too found it 'orrible initially but after getting used to it, it's fine. You can do a lot more with it than the typical Honeywell/etc fitting to Boeings. The lack of scratchpad is very annoying though.

[Wings Of Fury]

18-Wheeler,

Its was a simple question "does the 777 have a tray table?"
If you fly this aeroplane you should know, does it have one or not?
-Plenty of room is not a tray table!

You asked how is that Boeing's fault?
It is a fault because they have claimed an aeroplane they did not make!
Boeing DC-3! its just not right.

Its like saying one day in the future Boeing are in trouble, they merge with a big company, that company puts its completely different name in front of one of boeings classics, lets say the 747, can anyone think who might do that?

[18-Wheeler]

Its was a simple question "does the 777 have a tray table?"
If you fly this aeroplane you should know, does it have one or not?
-Plenty of room is not a tray table!

Of course the 777 doesn't have a folding table, but the inferrance was that the control column gets in the way of having a meal tray in front of you - It doesn't.

You asked how is that Boeing's fault?
It is a fault because they have claimed an aeroplane they did not make!
Boeing DC-3! its just not right.

So you carefully checked that the poster was a Boeing product?
No, it wasn't.

[templarknight]

Having spent 9 days away on a trip and the last day at the chiropractors I am loving the dialogue.
GE90; you made some comments on landing As and Bs. Its a different technique and you can do smooth ones.
Airbus you derotate on landing and get a beautiful smooth landing with A330/343/345 (I know). Don't derotate and you will get a 'wobble' on touch of forward bogies. The middle wheels on a A345 hang front wheel down cf the mains which are rear wheel down.
Boeing you get a nice touch down after rear main wheel contact by NOT derotating. If you do it will smack on; freeze the (stupid and unnecessary) wheel in the position you touched and the rest should come down pretty nicely.
Overall experience as pilot and passenger I think A beats B for smooth landings but that is of course merely an opinion.

[GE90115BL2]

you must be joking me?

Yes mate the Airbus guys/girls in CX know how to de-rotate the bus on landing. Then the whole cabin shakes and squeeks till your stopped at the gate.

I've travelled to Oz on Qf and Cx about twice a month for the last 14 years on Bus and I know what is true.

The good ol Boeing just "paints" itself on, if you do it right.

I've NEVER experienced that in a Bus, ever.

[TyroPicard]

1Way2Live

And pushing the thrust levers out of the CLB detent and back into it on an approach (at any altitude) is just crazy. Well, it is to me as the Airbus is the only type I've flown.

Are you sure you have flown an Airbus? This is the Airbus recommended technique if PF requires more thrust on the approach! Have a look at FCTM 1.030
TP

[olepilot]

sweet jeeezzzuzz!!

GE90115BL2, get a life!

[kbrockman]

The good ol Boeing just "paints" itself on, if you do it right.

Might be true for a T7 but it sure is not for the 767.
Hardly ever a greaser with that one ,no matter who's flying it.

[c130jage]

So all in all at the end of the day and all that, I think that we can conclude that both A and B have their good and bad points. Its a personal preference and as crew you are fortunate enough to do a job which you enjoy.
Let the pointless bickering cease forthwith!!!!!!!
Constructive debate rules Ok...

[GE90115BL2]

check

Which ever aircraft you're on it's still the best job in the world

[azlee_19]

How to make 777 smooth ldg

this is totally out of whats being discussed currently, but here's my techniques to acheive a very smooth ldg on 777. I ve done several good ones lately.

-hold/maintain the power (autothr), dont let it retard till 10 feet (i flare at sound of 40 ftRA)
-at 10 ft close thr quickly, if nose drop jerk up veryvery slightly
-slowly derotate the nose to cushion all main gears.
-as soon as u are on the ground let the nose go down, onlyv arrest it last minute just b4 it touches grd letg it go down slowly

of course this comes after i learned aerobatics, and its my personal technique. Anyway, any other suggestions?

[chase888]

Azlee,
Would love to know how you "jerk up" slowly?

[azlee_19]

LOL, wrong word.

slow or fast, depends on u guys, which ever you like......

[aguadalte]

Bus Boeing

...You Know, someone said that, all flight crew professionals who used to have a table have already lost it: Radio; Navigator and F/E...

[Lemurian]

You are right. I met King Arthur with his shiny bars and crash helmet the other day and he told me he lost his beautiful round one.

[AdamLT]

hi all

i remember coming across a website all about the 737. it was an orange and white coloured website, with similar information like in the http://www.b737.org.uk/.

any help would be much appreciated

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[Blinkz]

www.smartcockpit.com

[AdamLT]

Many thanks blinkz