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Old 1st Oct 2013, 04:48
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Stallone,

Yes it is a game and it can be called off anytime they want. You have no rights when dealing with Middle East based companies. If they want to pull the plug halfway through I'm sure they will.

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Old 1st Oct 2013, 04:54
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Pilot chute is right, that's a very well known story. Don't trust what the flying schools tell you, even CTC is having their own issues, Oxford, STAA, all have their flaws.

The only flying school that is close to perfect is AFS, that's becos their main goal is to churn out pilots and not revenue.
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Old 1st Oct 2013, 08:45
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''If they want to pull the plug halfway through I'm sure they will.''

Ha,ha you guys are new here right?

The "self sponsored" rating changed the whole game for the big boys.

i.e if there are WBTE greenhorns willing to pa 200k for a lic why should we pay?
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Old 1st Oct 2013, 14:52
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There is plentiful information out there already to deter "pilot hopefuls" from joining this airline , much less being bonded for several years , however you hopefuls dismiss this now as will the future hopefuls .You read and listen to only what you want . So continue to disregard the bad and listen to the "rosy " stories , if you can find any.
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Old 1st Oct 2013, 23:20
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I think that is refered to as "confirmation biase". You'll learn that soon enough in Human Performance & Limitations, one of the 14 ATPL theory subjects...
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 05:44
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Well I guess that's how it is everywhere. Young and hopeful wannabes walking in laughing thinking life is a bed of roses. Older and wiser ones who have experienced being screwed are more negative and pessimistic. The youngsters want no part being with the dreary old men since they don't want their lovely bubble dream world popped. The oldies are just annoyed listening to the youngsters naive words and stupidity and their refusal to protect themselves.

I have been on both sides of the coin and in several different situations and there really is no reconciliation for both parties . Just let the hopeful go through with it and learn the hard way growing up to be grumpy old men. It's not like the naive will enjoy listening to you or thank you for bursting their bubble. So why bother creating friction and discomfort... Just take whatever you want out of any situation and live life the way you want it. What happens to the others other really doesn't affect you

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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 08:41
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Dear Shortlisted Applicants of the Qatar Airways MPL Cadet Pilot Programme,

We sincerely apologise for the waiting period of your scheduled airline interview.

Please be informed that the airline interview will be conducted between 28th – 30th October 2013.

We will inform you of your respective interview timeslots in a separate email a week before the interview date.

A pre-briefing session will be held prior to the airline interview. More details will be made available to you.

If there are any changes to your decision in continuing with the selection, appreciate if you could notify me via email.

Should you require any further clarifications, please feel free to contact me.
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 11:53
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All the best and please share details of the interview if possible!
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 15:34
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Hey Hey CaptRoyBoy I'm on your side. I was and probably still am a hopeful dreaming that everything will be fine but still incredibly fearful of what the future might hold. But I'm abit older and wiser now but I know nothing would have stopped me from doing what I did when I was younger. It's not just in aviation. I bought into the government's hype about life sciences and then health sciences in the past and pursued in that area strongly as a bright eyed bushy tailed freshie despite some warning from my teachers, only to do a complete switch after spending years in school learning about the truth . And who knows what the end result of this jump will be...

My point is there is no point pouring negativity to the wannabes who obviously do not want to hear anything like that. We all only wanna hear the good stuff damnit! You couldn't have stopped me from doing what I wanted in the past and I don't see how a few pprune posts will stop you or anyone from applying from Qatar. So go ahead, learn the hard way, that's what I do!~ Let us make the mistakes and grow, hopefully we have the capacity to recover if it is truly a mistake.

Though, I hope you do heed advice from old seniors and protect your ass as much as you can. I know nothing about Qatar and I can't tell you much there, I just find it amusing to read the oldies pour negativity while the youngsters put up the hopeful words and both are having none of the other's words. Really quite funny from a third party perspective.

I guess it's part of growing older, you just care lesser about changing the world and making the world right, and just want to see things flow

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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 20:19
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Dear SFC172N,

Are you one of those who are attending the trial lesson?
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 23:35
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Wow, looks like this has become a "soul-searching" or "Disney movie happy ending" thread.

If you ask me my opinion, we've reached the turning point in aviation, back in the old guard days (my time), most of us got into the airlines through airline sponsored cadetships, or transitioned after a long career in the air forces, coast guard, etc.

It was a very prestigious industry, now, we are seeing it being watered down and diluted to the point where people are "paying to work", and airlines/ schools are taking advantage of that. Flight duty periods are stretched, crew rest are brought down to the way minimum, MEL/CDL are stretched, and it's only getting worse.

Want a career in aviation? I always recommend joining the Air Force first, no other cadet program pays you a full salary while on training. Especially in Singapore, because the CAAS/RSAF conversion is so easy and quick.
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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 01:21
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I too recommend the Air Force. Unfortunately not everyone makes the cut. So after giving it a try, the next best option is the paid program.
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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 03:14
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Getting into air force is tough, remaining in the air force is even tougher
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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 03:39
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If it were not tough, everyone would be a pilot. There is a certain calibre required for this job, sadly, not everyone has it.
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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 03:47
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well then the gd thing is the calibre needed of a fighter pilot is way higher than a commercial pilot, at least physically as far as G is concerned.

that being said, not all fighter pilots can be a commercial pilot. Some have attitude problems working in multi-crew environment
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Haha well right now the discussion seems to be in the consensus that Everyone can be a pilot as long as they are healthy physically and Especially financially healthy! lol.

Attitude wise, I guess if you aren't messed up enough to survive singapore's education system you should be able to make it.

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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 07:20
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Thanks to the Sg education system, I'm trained to believe the world evolves around men in white shirts.
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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 10:06
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Yes I'm one of the final interview cadets, didn't take much effort to get here. Despite so, it is a very risky option; look at the European Qatar cadets. If they do that to the ang mos, they won't think twice when it comes to Asians.

Too much of Top Gun and RSAF commercials is bad for your mental health, most common expression is "this is not what I expected". You should have seen the amount of people waiting to get out or trying to jump over to SQ.

There is no mention of any trial ground school, even if they offered me; I will respectfully decline. No point in that on both parties.

Those guys in Tiger and Jetstar Asia would be the real winner in this age of self sponsorship.
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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 11:32
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SFC,

Are you saying the ability to pay may have been the only hurdle to jump over? You make it sound like they are just happy to have people sign up!
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@pilotchute: I'm not saying ability to pay is the only hurdle, other than paying you will need the following:

- Good eyesight, Medically fit
- Able to do simple maths and basic reasoning
- Have the aptitude, or atleast willing to wayang

Well I guess that's about it. Oh and on that part on "You make it sound like they are just happy to have people sign up!"

Not to worry, Singapore lots of rich people. They can still take their pick of best amongst those who can afford.
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