ST Aviation Academy to train Qatar Airways MPL cadet pilots
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As far as I know, there is an Oct batch and Dec batch. could the holding pool be for the December batch which is why they need not do the interviews so quickly?
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hey grey_11,
there were CEO interviews that were held a couple of weeks back but some of ours were rescheduled for the coming week. There is a possibility that the holding pool is indeed for the december batch so sit tight stay hopeful. All the best guys!
there were CEO interviews that were held a couple of weeks back but some of ours were rescheduled for the coming week. There is a possibility that the holding pool is indeed for the december batch so sit tight stay hopeful. All the best guys!
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Hi abysseria,
That's great to know! All the best for your interview
Can those who have gone through the interview kindly give us a rough idea of what kind of questions were asked?
That's great to know! All the best for your interview
Can those who have gone through the interview kindly give us a rough idea of what kind of questions were asked?
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Questions.
They could ask anything under the sun, here are 5 I got asked;
1. Tell us about your family
2. What is an incipient stall
3. Tell me the difference of a A330 and 777 and how you'll tell them apart just by looking at them
4. Take 100 and subtract 7 and tell me the outcome all the way till I tell you to stop
5. Tell us a scenario where you "cooled down" a possible scenario from turning ugly.
Bonus question(always asked if you are Singaporean)
Tell us about what you did in national service that gave you a leadership or team working role.
1. Tell us about your family
2. What is an incipient stall
3. Tell me the difference of a A330 and 777 and how you'll tell them apart just by looking at them
4. Take 100 and subtract 7 and tell me the outcome all the way till I tell you to stop
5. Tell us a scenario where you "cooled down" a possible scenario from turning ugly.
Bonus question(always asked if you are Singaporean)
Tell us about what you did in national service that gave you a leadership or team working role.
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School is in a mess at the moment, the last thing they want to do is get more people in. They're probably stalling you guys till they sort out what ever is going on in Ballarat now, and their ground school in Singapore. They need to sort out the back log before moving on to new things. Best advice is to talk to people in the system now.
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Hey guys
Just to shed some light.
Received an email titled "SG11 pre course commencement briefing (qatar shortlisted candidates)"
So those that have passed the CEO's interview should have been sent this.
These bunch of people like me are now just awaiting Airline panel interview. STAA has offered a no frills 'free trial' for us while we are waiting. So we can choose to start in the CPL ground school first and when we pass QR interview we will switch over to QR MPL course. Take note that SG11 is the CPL batch.
One thing that frightens me is why QR is moving so slowly. From Aug to Sept to Oct. A 3 month delay. I really hope its not reflective of how they do things normally.
Anyone with further inputs please feel free.
Just to shed some light.
Received an email titled "SG11 pre course commencement briefing (qatar shortlisted candidates)"
So those that have passed the CEO's interview should have been sent this.
These bunch of people like me are now just awaiting Airline panel interview. STAA has offered a no frills 'free trial' for us while we are waiting. So we can choose to start in the CPL ground school first and when we pass QR interview we will switch over to QR MPL course. Take note that SG11 is the CPL batch.
One thing that frightens me is why QR is moving so slowly. From Aug to Sept to Oct. A 3 month delay. I really hope its not reflective of how they do things normally.
Anyone with further inputs please feel free.
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As mentioned by wonderland, do consult students in the program about the current "health" of STAA, it's no secret that the school's infrastructure is unable to cope, 150 cadets are in Ballarat now, some barely getting to fly.
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bryanpzw, does it mean those who arent offered for cpl course are not shortlisted?
is there any commitment for the cpl course? are u forced to continue the course if u are rejected by qatar eventually?
things are moving too slowly to seem that this might be a scam haha.
is there any commitment for the cpl course? are u forced to continue the course if u are rejected by qatar eventually?
things are moving too slowly to seem that this might be a scam haha.
Bryan,
Qatar have interviewed people for SO and FO not that long ago, told them they were successful and then just didn't give them a start date. Second Officer recruitment at Qatar has now been replaced by this MPL scheme. They aren't going down this route because they think they will be getting the best of the best, merely people with deep pockets who they can make a buck out of with a horrendously overpriced Cadetship.
Get used to being kept in the dark and having the plan change every week. They don't care about you. You aren't wanted in the Middle East. You are needed to fly airplanes as they cant get enough locals to do it. Or in this case find locals crazy enough to pay for training. When you are no longer required you will be thrown to one side and left to fend for yourself.
An MPL licence should only be a little bit more expensive than a fATPL. This course is equal to $160,000 USD. Someone is taking home a huge chunk of your money as it isn't being used for flight training.
You can get an A320 rating in the US now for around $9000 USD. That is for 34 hours in the sim with a partner. So using those figures, the money you give Qatar should buy you around 600 hours in the A320 sim.
SIX HUNDRED HOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Still think its value for money?
Qatar have interviewed people for SO and FO not that long ago, told them they were successful and then just didn't give them a start date. Second Officer recruitment at Qatar has now been replaced by this MPL scheme. They aren't going down this route because they think they will be getting the best of the best, merely people with deep pockets who they can make a buck out of with a horrendously overpriced Cadetship.
Get used to being kept in the dark and having the plan change every week. They don't care about you. You aren't wanted in the Middle East. You are needed to fly airplanes as they cant get enough locals to do it. Or in this case find locals crazy enough to pay for training. When you are no longer required you will be thrown to one side and left to fend for yourself.
An MPL licence should only be a little bit more expensive than a fATPL. This course is equal to $160,000 USD. Someone is taking home a huge chunk of your money as it isn't being used for flight training.
You can get an A320 rating in the US now for around $9000 USD. That is for 34 hours in the sim with a partner. So using those figures, the money you give Qatar should buy you around 600 hours in the A320 sim.
SIX HUNDRED HOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Still think its value for money?
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Here's the scary bit, if you go for the Qatar course, you won't be getting a CAAS license which means you are stuck with a license you can't do anything with if Qatar airways decides for some reason you are not needed by them
Captroy,
I know that wanting to fly is a passion for many people. I also know in Singapore only a lucky few get the chance to pursue the passion. The question is when is the price being asked just too much to pay?
I did a quick calculation on the repayments and came up with a figure of $1600 USD a month for the next 15 years for $150,000 USD.
This equates to a pay back figure of $290,000 USD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is any job worth that?
I know that wanting to fly is a passion for many people. I also know in Singapore only a lucky few get the chance to pursue the passion. The question is when is the price being asked just too much to pay?
I did a quick calculation on the repayments and came up with a figure of $1600 USD a month for the next 15 years for $150,000 USD.
This equates to a pay back figure of $290,000 USD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is any job worth that?
Captroy,
Banks have this magical thing called interest. Depending on how you borrow the money depends greatly on how much interest you pay. I used 9% as a rough figure. Now that was based on a second mortgage scenario which in reality would just bump up your pay back sum on your existing mortgage so the figure would actually be much higher than the one I stated.
Would any budding economists care to chime in?
Banks have this magical thing called interest. Depending on how you borrow the money depends greatly on how much interest you pay. I used 9% as a rough figure. Now that was based on a second mortgage scenario which in reality would just bump up your pay back sum on your existing mortgage so the figure would actually be much higher than the one I stated.
Would any budding economists care to chime in?
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In Singapore the only bank willing to loan you close to the amount you need is RHB bank and the most they are willing to go is SGD100,000 as long as you can get up to 6 sureties with a combined income of SGD$17,000 mthly.
Either that or pray mommy and daddy has $185,000 in loose change.
Either that or pray mommy and daddy has $185,000 in loose change.
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I think you can get 5-6% interest with the local banks.
Of course, it's a very worthwhile deal if your parents are rich and you pay 0% interest. 2 years worth of paycheck will more than cover it all. Free game afterwards.
Compounded interest will kill you, I suggest you commit majority of your salary to repaying the loan rather than spend on comforts of life as you will end up paying much more than you think you paid if the interest is compounded over the years. Good luck if you are planning to get married or buying a house.
Of course, it's a very worthwhile deal if your parents are rich and you pay 0% interest. 2 years worth of paycheck will more than cover it all. Free game afterwards.
Compounded interest will kill you, I suggest you commit majority of your salary to repaying the loan rather than spend on comforts of life as you will end up paying much more than you think you paid if the interest is compounded over the years. Good luck if you are planning to get married or buying a house.