ST Aviation Academy to train Qatar Airways MPL cadet pilots
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Singaporeans may certainly not be rich people but the young men and women I see in the STAA program have every bit of clothing they wear to all the money they have in their pockets given to them from Mommy & Daddy.
It's their parents that have earned this money, yet they feel they have an entitlement, most heavily smoking during class breaks wearing white aviator shirts with the STAA shoulder bars, embarrassing their entire cohort, many airlines in the western hemisphere have a no smoking policy, for a career that is all too important to have a healthy life style dreaming about the bit jet they plan on piloting.
Not one is doing it on their own, not one is really informed as to what they are getting themselves into, not one of them has yet to really impress me.
Sad what this industry has turned into, go ahead and gamble your parents money away, after all NONE of you earned it in any way what so ever... why should you care... in typical Singapore style it all about SELF... Happy Landings!
It's their parents that have earned this money, yet they feel they have an entitlement, most heavily smoking during class breaks wearing white aviator shirts with the STAA shoulder bars, embarrassing their entire cohort, many airlines in the western hemisphere have a no smoking policy, for a career that is all too important to have a healthy life style dreaming about the bit jet they plan on piloting.
Not one is doing it on their own, not one is really informed as to what they are getting themselves into, not one of them has yet to really impress me.
Sad what this industry has turned into, go ahead and gamble your parents money away, after all NONE of you earned it in any way what so ever... why should you care... in typical Singapore style it all about SELF... Happy Landings!
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Why do I get this impression that self-sponsored candidates are being demonized and condemned to a point that they don't deserve to be pilots? Are they all hopeless and can't study and be trained? It is because of the profession? According to the latest fee schedule at NUS, the fee for Degree of Medicine is SGD123,050. Should we condemn self-sponsored medicine students too?
It's not their fault that some has access to more financial resources than others, but that doesn't make them any less competent.
It certainly feels like there's a strong sense of sour-ness here.
It's not their fault that some has access to more financial resources than others, but that doesn't make them any less competent.
It certainly feels like there's a strong sense of sour-ness here.
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The self-sponsored candidates need not be demonized and condemned and I am not sour because I was flying airplanes long before most of you were even conceived.
What they need to realize is the idea of getting into the right seat, even in a small country such as Singapore with limited aviation opportunities, is something that should be earned by hard work and personal responsibility.
Enough with the hog wash, NS does not make you a man when you still have to live with Mommy & Daddy, (boys to men is a joke) WHY not make your own way in life...
My postings will not help, you will still buy your way and this industry will bring in a host of embarrassing future pilot's who have no shame but to smoke in public in uniform...
The famed aviator Charles Lindergh personally fired pilot's at Pan American World Airways for smoking in public but with your young ages it is unlikely that you even heard of Pan American World Airways or Charles Lindbergh... if STAA cadets want to have a chance for an ounce of respect STOP insulting our industry by smoking in public in uniform... you are being watched... forget being a Pilot, even without the STAA program, has any of you made it in life on your own???
What they need to realize is the idea of getting into the right seat, even in a small country such as Singapore with limited aviation opportunities, is something that should be earned by hard work and personal responsibility.
Enough with the hog wash, NS does not make you a man when you still have to live with Mommy & Daddy, (boys to men is a joke) WHY not make your own way in life...
My postings will not help, you will still buy your way and this industry will bring in a host of embarrassing future pilot's who have no shame but to smoke in public in uniform...
The famed aviator Charles Lindergh personally fired pilot's at Pan American World Airways for smoking in public but with your young ages it is unlikely that you even heard of Pan American World Airways or Charles Lindbergh... if STAA cadets want to have a chance for an ounce of respect STOP insulting our industry by smoking in public in uniform... you are being watched... forget being a Pilot, even without the STAA program, has any of you made it in life on your own???
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Was the smoking at seletar or YBLT? Saw a couple of them smoking in WSSL but never really bothered me, you should go to the basement in T3 and see all the tech crews and Kerbayas smoking at the taxi stands...
Filthy habit though, takes years of your life...
Filthy habit though, takes years of your life...
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Well, let's face it. Gone are the days where airlines will sponsor cadets fully when they can get them to pay. That's the way the industry is going and it's only a matter of time before SQ does the same. Is it ideal? Probably not. But when you look at how much it will save them, hey, at the end of the day, SQ is just another commercial entity trying to make money and not some charity organisation. So time to embrace the change.
As far as smoking goes, there will be cadets from any flight school that will smoke. I've seen my fair share of SFC cadets smoking also. And I still remember back in 2003 on an SQ flight to PEK, the flight was delayed for some reason and the captain was happily puffing away in the cockpit with the cockpit window open.
Over at STAA's ground school which shares the same premise as the ATR Training Centre, almost all the ATR pilots on their type course, including Captain Herve the Chief Instructor at ATR Singapore, smoke. The SFC Flight Instructors smoke in their uniforms. My Head of Training, CFI, Flight Instructors all smoke like chimneys.
I don't smoke personally and I hate the smell myself. But if smoking is insulting to the industry, then what about drinking?
As far as smoking goes, there will be cadets from any flight school that will smoke. I've seen my fair share of SFC cadets smoking also. And I still remember back in 2003 on an SQ flight to PEK, the flight was delayed for some reason and the captain was happily puffing away in the cockpit with the cockpit window open.
Over at STAA's ground school which shares the same premise as the ATR Training Centre, almost all the ATR pilots on their type course, including Captain Herve the Chief Instructor at ATR Singapore, smoke. The SFC Flight Instructors smoke in their uniforms. My Head of Training, CFI, Flight Instructors all smoke like chimneys.
I don't smoke personally and I hate the smell myself. But if smoking is insulting to the industry, then what about drinking?
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No money, sure cannot make it. Got money, also doesn't mean you'll get in.
Those selected with access to funding have a easier way out, those without funding can also take the hard way of becoming a instructor, ferry pilot, turboprop jockey before eventually moving up into a jet. Or find another job u excel in and eventually buy your own plane or take up flying lessons.
Just worry about getting in, why even bother if existing cadets are smoking or doing whatever they want with their life and/or their parents rich or not. This world isn't fair anyway, deal with it. What if you are on the other side, will you be saying the same meritocracy bs now?
Those selected with access to funding have a easier way out, those without funding can also take the hard way of becoming a instructor, ferry pilot, turboprop jockey before eventually moving up into a jet. Or find another job u excel in and eventually buy your own plane or take up flying lessons.
Just worry about getting in, why even bother if existing cadets are smoking or doing whatever they want with their life and/or their parents rich or not. This world isn't fair anyway, deal with it. What if you are on the other side, will you be saying the same meritocracy bs now?
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Just my 2 cents here, I soloed way back in 1980 when I was 16 years old, seems not too long ago, and what I have seen become of this industry is a sick shame...
The ultimate prestige that the profession use to have will never return....
As far as money, with the sacrifices I have made with studying, hard work and personal responsibility and the failed relationships, living on 3 different continents, and eventually having a marriage that lasts, I can tell you I can honestly say it was NOT worth it...
I leave this forum now, I can see the negativity as I write this, someday you too will feel it and ask yourself was it all worth it... and on top of that you did all with Mommy and Daddy money, you may feel you had no choice but somehow I just don't feel that way... God bless and good luck!
The ultimate prestige that the profession use to have will never return....
As far as money, with the sacrifices I have made with studying, hard work and personal responsibility and the failed relationships, living on 3 different continents, and eventually having a marriage that lasts, I can tell you I can honestly say it was NOT worth it...
I leave this forum now, I can see the negativity as I write this, someday you too will feel it and ask yourself was it all worth it... and on top of that you did all with Mommy and Daddy money, you may feel you had no choice but somehow I just don't feel that way... God bless and good luck!
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We will inform you of your respective interview timeslots in a separate email a week before the interview date.
A pre-briefing session will be held prior to the airline interview. More details will be made available to you.
If there are any changes to your decision in continuing with the selection, appreciate if you could notify me via email.
Should you require any further clarifications, please feel free to contact me.
A pre-briefing session will be held prior to the airline interview. More details will be made available to you.
If there are any changes to your decision in continuing with the selection, appreciate if you could notify me via email.
Should you require any further clarifications, please feel free to contact me.
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i guess people are missing the point of flying right now... Screw the glamour and prestige and all that.. I fell in love with aviation when i was a kid riding on a 747 with KLM to indonesia. Seeing the size of that behemoth beast soaring through the skies is a marvel and wonderful sight by itself.
for me, i'd gladly fly for free. Because it is what i LOVE doing - Soaring through the clouds gliding with the angels up above..
Eitherways, all the best to everyone here who applied.
for me, i'd gladly fly for free. Because it is what i LOVE doing - Soaring through the clouds gliding with the angels up above..
Eitherways, all the best to everyone here who applied.
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After waiting 6 months and many interview cancellations later, turns out that Qatar Airways suddenly comes up with a requirement that one has to be between the ages of 18-27 to join the program, so I'm automatically axed from the program. Guess what the applicants in Europe said about the airline's system of recruitment is true after all!
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Many airlines still have fully sponsored pilot training programs even today, its just that most of them are not well known or its being avilable to only their local citizens. Few years ago I was fully sponsored by my airline, the airline never wanted me to repay the training cost all that was agreed mutually was to work with them 5 years and till today they are sponsoring young boys and girls who done really well at school and moreover the airline gives extra allowance for the students who comes from financially difficult background . What I am trying to prove here is that not everywhere it works the same and most of you should always have a contrasting prespective rather that generalising the negativity.
If your dream is really to fly then work for it, most of you are young and dynamic so take advantage of your age to work for it. Ive met captain and FO who are flying big jet now have once cleaned planes, washed plates in restaurants, doing 2 tto 3 odd jobs a day and gave their high paying jobs to chase their dreams. The world we live in is not easy to survive however where there's a will there is a way.
If your dream is really to fly then work for it, most of you are young and dynamic so take advantage of your age to work for it. Ive met captain and FO who are flying big jet now have once cleaned planes, washed plates in restaurants, doing 2 tto 3 odd jobs a day and gave their high paying jobs to chase their dreams. The world we live in is not easy to survive however where there's a will there is a way.
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I believe before anything takes place, Even before interviews or selection test, they should already agreed on the requirements before STAA signed the dot with Qatar a few months ago. But telling at the last minute is really unacceptable. Anyway, I am axed too coz I am 1 month over the age limit. Quite unreasonable But Maybe there a reason for it. To all those who wasn't rejected, May the force be with you