PHILIPPINE AIRLINES managment pilots NEGATIVE STYLE
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PHILIPPINE AIRLINES managment pilots NEGATIVE STYLE
....fllying the juiciest choice flights that are meant for line pilots ... "WE WILL GIVE THEM OVERTIME PAY BUT WE SHALL TAKE THE LONG HNL, LAX, YVR, ETC....SO THEY WILL NOT BENEFIT FROM THE PER DIEM AND FLYING HOURS... HE HE HE.... practiced by the bg, bj, st, rp, .... all pal management pilots..
.... do they tell you the truth...."OH, EX PAL PILOTS ARE UNHAPPY ABROAD, THEY ARE DYING TO COME BACK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.... LOOK AT THIS AR FROM GULF AIR, MM FROM ASIANA, TZ FROM EK... heard from the chief of airbus
.... are they sharp pilots... "YOU SEE, THESE
ZEST AIR PILOTS TRAINED BY THIS EX PAL PILOT WHO WENT TO INDIA, WHAT DO THEY KNOW ABOUT FLYING...ALL THEY DO IS CRASH IN CATICLAN...." heard from the chief of turbo prop 
.... COMMENTS PLEASE....BEEN TRYING TO LEAVE THIS 'WONDERLAND'
.... do they tell you the truth...."OH, EX PAL PILOTS ARE UNHAPPY ABROAD, THEY ARE DYING TO COME BACK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.... LOOK AT THIS AR FROM GULF AIR, MM FROM ASIANA, TZ FROM EK... heard from the chief of airbus
.... are they sharp pilots... "YOU SEE, THESE
ZEST AIR PILOTS TRAINED BY THIS EX PAL PILOT WHO WENT TO INDIA, WHAT DO THEY KNOW ABOUT FLYING...ALL THEY DO IS CRASH IN CATICLAN...." heard from the chief of turbo prop .... COMMENTS PLEASE....BEEN TRYING TO LEAVE THIS 'WONDERLAND'
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"YOU SEE, THESE 
ZEST AIR PILOTS TRAINED BY THIS EX PAL PILOT WHO WENT TO INDIA, WHAT DO THEY KNOW ABOUT FLYING...ALL THEY DO IS CRASH IN CATICLAN...." heard from the chief of turbo prop 
ZEST AIR PILOTS TRAINED BY THIS EX PAL PILOT WHO WENT TO INDIA, WHAT DO THEY KNOW ABOUT FLYING...ALL THEY DO IS CRASH IN CATICLAN...." heard from the chief of turbo prop
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Optimus,
Juicy flights? - My Optimus, dear it has always been like that in PAL. So, whats the complaining? You think One Autobot leader can change that?
Unhappy Abroad / dying to return to PAL ?- Maybe some are unhappy, but If you ask this bunch of guys, if they have options they will not go back to RP. Maybe some are made-up already, saved enough Millions to enjoy a turn around Cebu or even fly as a Second officer.
Sharp Pilots? - Zest air x 2 Caticlan on a Turbo/ PAL x 1 tacloban + 1 Butuan, And you know what? PAL even used an even more sophisticated aircraft in flight testing a runway overshoot maneuver. That TP chief should shut his mouth up and think even before he speaks.
You been trying to leave ? well, Optimus you havent tried harder. If you must, Transform and roll-out. But, this is just not the right time. Stay put for the meantime, The General with a well executed battle plan wins the war.
Out here, its more than meets the Eye...
Juicy flights? - My Optimus, dear it has always been like that in PAL. So, whats the complaining? You think One Autobot leader can change that?
Unhappy Abroad / dying to return to PAL ?- Maybe some are unhappy, but If you ask this bunch of guys, if they have options they will not go back to RP. Maybe some are made-up already, saved enough Millions to enjoy a turn around Cebu or even fly as a Second officer.
Sharp Pilots? - Zest air x 2 Caticlan on a Turbo/ PAL x 1 tacloban + 1 Butuan, And you know what? PAL even used an even more sophisticated aircraft in flight testing a runway overshoot maneuver. That TP chief should shut his mouth up and think even before he speaks.
You been trying to leave ? well, Optimus you havent tried harder. If you must, Transform and roll-out. But, this is just not the right time. Stay put for the meantime, The General with a well executed battle plan wins the war.
Out here, its more than meets the Eye...
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do they tell the truth?
their truth, they tell. do you not notice that for most management pilots, the world revolves around PAL?
one story is, at the tail end of the pilot exodus and after the significant increase in income offered to pilots, JC, the former a320 cp heard the story claiming that if not for the exodus there wouldn't have been an income increase. and the reply was, P.I. nila. surprised about the pilots abroad unhappy story?
that's why it is good to have a strong challenge from the other side of the fence.
one story is, at the tail end of the pilot exodus and after the significant increase in income offered to pilots, JC, the former a320 cp heard the story claiming that if not for the exodus there wouldn't have been an income increase. and the reply was, P.I. nila. surprised about the pilots abroad unhappy story?
that's why it is good to have a strong challenge from the other side of the fence.
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me wifey tells me pal does have a few blokes who seem not to discern truth and fiction,.... they do spread word THAT life of yer fellow kababayans are miserable abroad but disagree i would.....especially to the ones i had the pleasure to fly with.
these filipino blokes work hard, do an honest day's work, and pour their hearts in their jobs. they live with their families, and seem content with life(wouldn't you if you had yer family with you???)
what these jokers in pal management are trying to do is simply discourage more exodus...as simple as that... by convincing yer kabayans that it is not good outside the comfort zone...
they spread AND MAKE UP MAKE-BELIEVE malicious rumors about filipino pilots getting sacked, ridiculed, austracized, WHEN IT IS THE OTHER WAY AROUND....a lot of your countrymen are promoted as CAPTAINS.....
a lot of these captains get promoted in management, support team, instructors(A LOT OF THEM), and administrators...
i think it makes sense...
THEY HAVE TO RESULT TO UNGENTLEMANLY WAYS TO ACHIEVE THEIR OBJECTIVE...TO APPEAR GOOD, LOVELY, VIABLE, WORTHY OF THEIR POSITIONS TO MR TAN...AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHERS, EVEN IF THEY HAVE TO LIE, CHEAT, MALIGN, AND
SELL THEIR SOULS.....DAMN!!!
now lads, would you sell your soul???? don't filipinos believe in do unto others what others should do unto you, what happened to your morals PAL MANAGEMENT TEAM???
these filipino blokes work hard, do an honest day's work, and pour their hearts in their jobs. they live with their families, and seem content with life(wouldn't you if you had yer family with you???)
what these jokers in pal management are trying to do is simply discourage more exodus...as simple as that... by convincing yer kabayans that it is not good outside the comfort zone...
they spread AND MAKE UP MAKE-BELIEVE malicious rumors about filipino pilots getting sacked, ridiculed, austracized, WHEN IT IS THE OTHER WAY AROUND....a lot of your countrymen are promoted as CAPTAINS.....
a lot of these captains get promoted in management, support team, instructors(A LOT OF THEM), and administrators...
i think it makes sense...
THEY HAVE TO RESULT TO UNGENTLEMANLY WAYS TO ACHIEVE THEIR OBJECTIVE...TO APPEAR GOOD, LOVELY, VIABLE, WORTHY OF THEIR POSITIONS TO MR TAN...AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHERS, EVEN IF THEY HAVE TO LIE, CHEAT, MALIGN, AND
SELL THEIR SOULS.....DAMN!!!
now lads, would you sell your soul???? don't filipinos believe in do unto others what others should do unto you, what happened to your morals PAL MANAGEMENT TEAM???
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does airphil count??
pal and air philippines are one and the same right?
so does this jerk-o haruta, kissing bandit, child molester edil.beer..to med.na count?
for me his is the grandest of all liars!! a sore loser, and the biggest back stabber of all... P.I. MO ED MED
does anyone know why he has never been imprisoned for sexually molesting cabin crew, office mates,
can he even fly? and doesn't his co hort jo cas say the same....the same fat lard, whose stopmach gets in the way of the flare according to him that is why he cannot flare and make a good landing..!!! and haruta makes him an instructor....what a joke
until now, pilots from SAMA are getting sued, harassed, unceasingly just to show his ugly side that people left him behind....
why is LT even paying this leper 280,000 pesos for sitting in his ass doing nothing....
LOUSY
so does this jerk-o haruta, kissing bandit, child molester edil.beer..to med.na count?
for me his is the grandest of all liars!! a sore loser, and the biggest back stabber of all...
P.I. MO ED MEDdoes anyone know why he has never been imprisoned for sexually molesting cabin crew, office mates,
can he even fly? and doesn't his co hort jo cas say the same....the same fat lard, whose stopmach gets in the way of the flare according to him that is why he cannot flare and make a good landing..!!! and haruta makes him an instructor....what a joke
until now, pilots from SAMA are getting sued, harassed, unceasingly just to show his ugly side that people left him behind....
why is LT even paying this leper 280,000 pesos for sitting in his ass doing nothing....
LOUSY
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Move on People!!
PAL management will always be the same! Most modern airlines have moved on from the stick and shout mentality in the flight deck and simulator, yet PAL is STILL stuck in the dark ages.
When I left PAL I felt I was taking a risk and took a FO job that paid me SD$10500 a month tax free (75 hours flying). No command for a while, but hey... no more BULLSH.. from PAL. This airline treated me with respect and when command finally came up, they actually supported the Captains.
For those who are unsure of the big move, choose your timing carefully and enjoy how good it really can be.
BTW... what are the wide body captain's take home nowadays?
When I left PAL I felt I was taking a risk and took a FO job that paid me SD$10500 a month tax free (75 hours flying). No command for a while, but hey... no more BULLSH.. from PAL. This airline treated me with respect and when command finally came up, they actually supported the Captains.
For those who are unsure of the big move, choose your timing carefully and enjoy how good it really can be.
BTW... what are the wide body captain's take home nowadays?
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pretty good ps.....they make up to 300t php if they work dem bumms out!
normally at least 200t....
unless me figures are wrong...
sad to say what you said is true...CRM never seems to be fallin in the right place with insecurities of managment wanting to be called sirs and nobles when hard to find some of them are....
the training field is outside that little aquarium...
AND THE REAL TEST IS FOR THOSE WHO MADE IT OUT THERE....
(BAD) pal management knows how to keep the pilots in their little pond:
1. lie to them
2. threaten them
3. make them believe their management are the best pilots in the world
4. make them believe the world outside is to be feared
5. and don't teach them everything, don't provide them with the right tools....or else they will know more...and THEN LEAVE
normally at least 200t....
unless me figures are wrong...
sad to say what you said is true...CRM never seems to be fallin in the right place with insecurities of managment wanting to be called sirs and nobles when hard to find some of them are....
the training field is outside that little aquarium...
AND THE REAL TEST IS FOR THOSE WHO MADE IT OUT THERE....
(BAD) pal management knows how to keep the pilots in their little pond:
1. lie to them
2. threaten them
3. make them believe their management are the best pilots in the world
4. make them believe the world outside is to be feared
5. and don't teach them everything, don't provide them with the right tools....or else they will know more...and THEN LEAVE
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Where are you?
I wonder, where is Optimus prime? he only did a single post and went hiding. I guessed he had his answers.....
Mr. Moderator, its time to close this thread.
Cheers!
C1052
Mr. Moderator, its time to close this thread.
Cheers!
C1052
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So Why The Stay In PR
9ball
yes it was the chief of airphil, the old man himself who gave that comment....he claims: 'he can land the F50 there..."(apparrently he was the chief before and he said he can do a better job than all these new hotshots as he calls them....he needs to say something to hang on to his bunch or else they would leave him as well...
Cessna1052
not hiding....just waiting for more replies and researching on some matters.... like you said, and you are right...there are still guys intending to leave(me included) waiting for the right time!! you sound like you are in my list of nice airlines to join...send my regards to jr, and the first airbus380 pinoy...to you of course!!!
macokoleta
you are absolutely correct. i just found out pinoy pilots in lanka have been promoted, sucess stories in vietnam, singapore and all remaining pinoy pilots in golf air have all been promoted to the left seat and many more in the mid east......another proof pinoys can succeed
well....contrary to what mr bg of pal airbus says pinoys are bad mouthed abroad....boy, you should hear what his classmates say about him(ass licker, liar, ungentlemanly behavior, traitor, maniac, user......especially the way he puts down his own classmate miss ac, the first woman pilot.....and come to think he was from ateneo....
planestupid
yes the mentality is the same, although some, and i mean some management pilots are really great.... ac, ca, gn....
RNAV.CAP
abosultely right.....!! apparently he could not hang on to his loyal fleet of 737 pilots and they had to go to sama airlines, all doing very well driving luxury cars and trucks bringing home truckloads of goodies too.
so he resulted to the usual old technique DESTROYING PEOPLE'S NAMES left and right, especially to the people who left.... 
pack1
"p.i. nila", well, i could share that sentiment, .... about what they say the pilots are unhappy........., i really do not think so,....some of you expats i heard even own you own private planes..WOW!! not mentioning the mansions you guys build here at home....!!! i agree with you, these self ruling pal management pilots have their little pond to live on....remember rp battling it out with br on the parking lot after rp picks up on the wife of br? apparently, rp likes to pick on women, even on his classmate gl during his training days....hmmm, must be related to bg as well,
to all
one thing you gentlemen must realize, a lot of pal management pilots have suffered from heart sickness....let me see... i could count at least 5...st, ja, jh, sj, bg(he just does not know what a heart is for) and one more i forget... there must be a relationship being a #@%$ and a sick heart
yes it was the chief of airphil, the old man himself who gave that comment....he claims: 'he can land the F50 there..."
(apparrently he was the chief before and he said he can do a better job than all these new hotshots as he calls them....he needs to say something to hang on to his bunch or else they would leave him as well...Cessna1052
not hiding....just waiting for more replies and researching on some matters.... like you said, and you are right...there are still guys intending to leave(me included) waiting for the right time!! you sound like you are in my list of nice airlines to join...send my regards to jr, and the first airbus380 pinoy...to you of course!!!
macokoleta
you are absolutely correct. i just found out pinoy pilots in lanka have been promoted, sucess stories in vietnam, singapore and all remaining pinoy pilots in golf air have all been promoted to the left seat and many more in the mid east......another proof pinoys can succeed
well....contrary to what mr bg of pal airbus says pinoys are bad mouthed abroad....boy, you should hear what his classmates say about him(ass licker, liar, ungentlemanly behavior, traitor, maniac, user......especially the way he puts down his own classmate miss ac, the first woman pilot.....and come to think he was from ateneo....planestupid
yes the mentality is the same, although some, and i mean some management pilots are really great.... ac, ca, gn....
RNAV.CAP
abosultely right.....!! apparently he could not hang on to his loyal fleet of 737 pilots and they had to go to sama airlines, all doing very well driving luxury cars and trucks bringing home truckloads of goodies too.
so he resulted to the usual old technique DESTROYING PEOPLE'S NAMES left and right, especially to the people who left.... pack1
"p.i. nila", well, i could share that sentiment, .... about what they say the pilots are unhappy........., i really do not think so,....some of you expats i heard even own you own private planes..WOW!! not mentioning the mansions you guys build here at home....!!! i agree with you, these self ruling pal management pilots have their little pond to live on....remember rp battling it out with br on the parking lot after rp picks up on the wife of br? apparently, rp likes to pick on women, even on his classmate gl during his training days....hmmm, must be related to bg as well,
to all
one thing you gentlemen must realize, a lot of pal management pilots have suffered from heart sickness....let me see... i could count at least 5...st, ja, jh, sj, bg(he just does not know what a heart is for) and one more i forget... there must be a relationship being a #@
%$ and a sick heart
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OR BUTCH THE GENEROUS....
damn..... is this the guy who likes to fly to jakarta, then goes to that sleezy 3 storey building, where lots of drugs, prostitution and danger happens, yet pays around 20 dollars to get a one night bj? and is this the same guy who likes to do his sim in bkk so he can run to mo cherie, and pay 100 dollars for another 16-18 year old cute thai girl to bathe him, give him the works?... is this the same guy guy whose wife is a number expert....computes real fast, was married to before he joined PR, only he had to lie about it and falsify his document, to make him appear single...SO HE CAN BE ACCEPTED IN THE CADET PROGRAM and this wife is rich btw that is why this bg can afford to live in puta fuego and brag when actually it is the wife who supports him...
IS THIS THE SAME LEPER????
damn..... is this the guy who likes to fly to jakarta, then goes to that sleezy 3 storey building, where lots of drugs, prostitution and danger happens, yet pays around 20 dollars to get a one night bj? and is this the same guy who likes to do his sim in bkk so he can run to mo cherie, and pay 100 dollars for another 16-18 year old cute thai girl to bathe him, give him the works?... is this the same guy guy whose wife is a number expert....computes real fast, was married to before he joined PR, only he had to lie about it and falsify his document, to make him appear single...SO HE CAN BE ACCEPTED IN THE CADET PROGRAM and this wife is rich btw that is why this bg can afford to live in puta fuego and brag when actually it is the wife who supports him...
IS THIS THE SAME LEPER????
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the licker leper
sounds like him mate! sounds like him alright....mighty damn good in yer front but once you turn yer arse to him, then to damnation he will to you...must be his kind of breeding....
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PPS Decision... Bg's Idiot Verdict
unless i am wrong in my info.....the boots gonorhea suspended the 2 flt dk for 3 months. now what baffles me is ... report from pax? high and fast? hard landing.
2 over runs, one taxi out of the runway, ..... suspension is not the answer, it is bringing the flt crew up to standard...whether back to the classroom, extensive de brief..etc...
w.t.f..??? this p.o.s. decides to play hardball again... well then, how come in the late 90's with his davao incident ( overrun in taxiway/runway) this b g does not even get a slap in the hand...
damn if you lick ass but damn if you pretend just because you are in managment you cannot make mistakes..
he does not deserve the first name... "emmanuel" is too noble for him...he should be known as boy abunda instead...
2 over runs, one taxi out of the runway, ..... suspension is not the answer, it is bringing the flt crew up to standard...whether back to the classroom, extensive de brief..etc...
w.t.f..??? this p.o.s. decides to play hardball again... well then, how come in the late 90's with his davao incident ( overrun in taxiway/runway) this b g does not even get a slap in the hand...
damn if you lick ass but damn if you pretend just because you are in managment you cannot make mistakes..
he does not deserve the first name... "emmanuel" is too noble for him...he should be known as boy abunda instead...
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It must be Immunity. I remember the time when Regular line Captains get suspended after getting one of their A330 main gear over the grass in Davao's Old terminal Apron. It was a tight right turn to the ramp after an easterly landing. But, Not with Admin pilots who fell on the same trap.
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Haruta Edmed Ina
THAT DOES SOUND LIKE ED MED INDEED.....I HOPE EDONG AND ELGIN READ THIS AND TELL THEIR S.O.B. FATHER HOW BAD HIS NAME IS IN THE INDUSTRY...
LETS NOT FORGET MISS CATHY B.. OF MINDANAO THAT HE FIRST HARASSED IN HIS FOKKER 50 DAYS.... THE POOR GIRL HAD TO RESIGN(DESPITE THE FACT HER FATHER WAS THE MAYOR), IF ONLY HARUTA KNOWS A BULLET WAS EMBEDDED UNDER HIS NAME ONLY TO BE SAVED BY THE MOTHER WHO PRAYED FOR DIVINE INTERVENTION....DAMN THIS BAD WEEDS, IT IS SO HARD TO DISPOSE OF THEM
GUESS WHAT, IT SEEMS MANAGEMENT TOLERATES THIS AMONGST ITS CORE OF PILOTS....
PUT AN GINA MOED MED IN A
FATHER HOW BAD HIS NAME IS IN THE INDUSTRY...LETS NOT FORGET MISS CATHY B.. OF MINDANAO THAT HE FIRST HARASSED IN HIS FOKKER 50 DAYS....
THE POOR GIRL HAD TO RESIGN(DESPITE THE FACT HER FATHER WAS THE MAYOR), IF ONLY HARUTA KNOWS A BULLET WAS EMBEDDED UNDER HIS NAME ONLY TO BE SAVED BY THE MOTHER WHO PRAYED FOR DIVINE INTERVENTION....DAMN THIS BAD WEEDS, IT IS SO HARD TO DISPOSE OF THEMGUESS WHAT, IT SEEMS MANAGEMENT TOLERATES THIS AMONGST ITS CORE OF PILOTS....
PUT AN GINA MO
ED MED IN A