PHILIPPINE AIRLINES managment pilots NEGATIVE STYLE
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geeewhizz so many things said about lucio tan's trash-ted management pilots but nothing has been done to evaporate them ha ha ha i guess will just wait a natural way of getting rid of these ''kup's''.for haruta,gonorhea,kAlbo et al it must be something painfull and slow i foresee......
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more to be said
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thank you for your generous contributions...
LOUSY LOW STANDARD red payMUMO...
can anybody share any information about the history of red pay in pal, ??
REMEMBER HOW HE FAILED HIS CCQ TO 340 AND CRASHED IN THE SIM?? REMEMBER? WHAT A LOUSY CHOICE OF MANAGEMENT PILOT TO PUT IN THE TRAINING DEPARTMENT, HOW CAN PAL CHOOSE SUCH LOW QUALITY TYPE OF PILOT, LOW IN MORALS, STANDARDS, FLYING SKILLS AND BACKED UP BY NO OTHER THAN haruta and bg, how do you spell GONHORREA??
ANY FEEDBACK ABOUT THE 2 AIRBUS 330 PILOTS WHO ARE SUSPENDED FOR HAVING FUN IN PPS??
sorry for shouting but seriously, is this how it is supposed to be dealt with??
thank you for your generous contributions...
LOUSY LOW STANDARD red payMUMO...
can anybody share any information about the history of red pay in pal, ??
REMEMBER HOW HE FAILED HIS CCQ TO 340 AND CRASHED IN THE SIM?? REMEMBER? WHAT A LOUSY CHOICE OF MANAGEMENT PILOT TO PUT IN THE TRAINING DEPARTMENT, HOW CAN PAL CHOOSE SUCH LOW QUALITY TYPE OF PILOT, LOW IN MORALS, STANDARDS, FLYING SKILLS AND BACKED UP BY NO OTHER THAN haruta and bg, how do you spell GONHORREA??
ANY FEEDBACK ABOUT THE 2 AIRBUS 330 PILOTS WHO ARE SUSPENDED FOR HAVING FUN IN PPS??
sorry for shouting but seriously, is this how it is supposed to be dealt with??
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The great leader
Optimus Prime ... the great leader
.... pretty sure a Captain in Rank, might even be a Chief , or Deputy or napag iwanang Admin A.K.A. floating admin pilot.
Im just trying to profile you, in terms of your callsign.
Sounds very much like a Management/Admin pilot, who has a big grudge against some of his fellow Admin guys.
Ano ba napag awayan ninyo? Im guessing you didnt get the position that was promised to you.
Oh well, you're gooooood.
.... pretty sure a Captain in Rank, might even be a Chief , or Deputy or napag iwanang Admin A.K.A. floating admin pilot.Im just trying to profile you, in terms of your callsign.
Sounds very much like a Management/Admin pilot, who has a big grudge against some of his fellow Admin guys.
Ano ba napag awayan ninyo? Im guessing you didnt get the position that was promised to you.
Oh well, you're gooooood.
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more of the follower
hi jc
wow 747!! you are idol!! imagine, you have flown the biggest aircraft that has dominated this century,... and you have lots of threads to prove you have been around. maybe someday, i shall still have the gift of wings to soar higher than what i have achieved now.
let us stick to the thread please. sorry, me management? no leader? more of follower
wow 747!! you are idol!! imagine, you have flown the biggest aircraft that has dominated this century,...
and you have lots of threads to prove you have been around. maybe someday, i shall still have the gift of wings to soar higher than what i have achieved now.let us stick to the thread please. sorry, me management? no leader? more of follower
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Fraustrated
come to think of it, if you sit in their posts, what would you do... would you go against your pay check?
so, the B J, what is his story with the vp mr BB?
cant be a girl issue, man this bj is gay....fat and gay!!
so, the B J, what is his story with the vp mr BB?
cant be a girl issue, man this bj is gay....fat and gay!!
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From the TOP!
As I always say, it starts at the top.
LT f..ks the CEO up the a..!!
CEO f..ks the VPs up the a..!!
VPs f..ks you up the a..!!
and you get to f..k yourselves up the ass!
PLEASE REFER to PAL organisational Chart!!!
LT f..ks the CEO up the a..!!
CEO f..ks the VPs up the a..!!
VPs f..ks you up the a..!!
and you get to f..k yourselves up the ass!
PLEASE REFER to PAL organisational Chart!!!
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Hurray for Brave Filipino Pilots
Hurray for our brave and professional Filipino pilots. I wish I had the guts to curse and rant anonymously at PAL management pilots. It's just too hard to get the courage to curse at someone out here in PPRuNe.
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our bupac is just boring
"brave filipino pilots..."
back in our pond in bupac, its a bit boring, we just talk about this dick heads who claim to fame,...when actually they are a shame, .... i agree ... BRAVE COMMANDANTES I SALUTE YOU!!! LET YOURSELVES BE TRUE.....!!!
btw, check out this gay pilot who used to train cadets in singapore, man...he sure has a bad mouth for you guys as well.... rose sales
back in our pond in bupac, its a bit boring, we just talk about this dick heads who claim to fame,...when actually they are a shame, .... i agree ... BRAVE COMMANDANTES I SALUTE YOU!!! LET YOURSELVES BE TRUE.....!!!
btw, check out this gay pilot who used to train cadets in singapore, man...he sure has a bad mouth for you guys as well.... rose sales
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Brave Anonymous Filipino Pilots
Wa ha ha ha ha. That was a good one driver!!!!
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"BRAVE" and anonymous Pinoy Pilots
Wa ha ha ha. Thanks Pres FVR Public Relations assistant. Ahe he he. They just don't get it. Some guys just have to click on the link you provided.
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furlough, find faults, suspend, terminate contracts........ are the solutions for the crisis .... if one intends to stay in power, save his ass, live the lifestyle,\\ 
sure, a pilot violates minimum criteria for finals, lets save on salary and suspend these pilots... why not...\\
but then, what if you are on the receiving end, the retiree who still has the second family to feed and his college boy whose CAP was forfeited, or the newly hire who felt PAL was the answer placing a 1.8 million loan only to find himself losing the contract, or the not so guilty pilot who had a lapse of judgement, finds himself losing his job because the verdict is termination, as in bye bye,... think about it if your are in management, ... the hell with them...but, PUT YOURSELF IN THE RECEIVING END...\\
just to make my point, why for once can't MANAGEMENT SUGGEST A WIN WIN SOLUTION....\\
LET US ALL AGREE TO REDUCE OUR SALARIES, save our comrades, TIGHTEN OUR BELTS, so everybody keeps their jobs, and EVERYBODY WINS... and NOBODY loses his/her job!!
then again .... it is just my thought....
sure, a pilot violates minimum criteria for finals, lets save on salary and suspend these pilots... why not...\\
but then, what if you are on the receiving end, the retiree who still has the second family to feed and his college boy whose CAP was forfeited, or the newly hire who felt PAL was the answer placing a 1.8 million loan only to find himself losing the contract, or the not so guilty pilot who had a lapse of judgement, finds himself losing his job because the verdict is termination, as in bye bye,... think about it if your are in management, ... the hell with them...but, PUT YOURSELF IN THE RECEIVING END...\\
just to make my point, why for once can't MANAGEMENT SUGGEST A WIN WIN SOLUTION....\\
LET US ALL AGREE TO REDUCE OUR SALARIES, save our comrades, TIGHTEN OUR BELTS, so everybody keeps their jobs, and EVERYBODY WINS...
and NOBODY loses his/her job!!then again .... it is just my thought....
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a340 crew dismissal
can anyone shine some light on how an A340 captain is in so much after flying a plane that was rumored to have been released by maintenance when there was something wrong with one engine's hydraulic supply?he got the plane to its destination without anything happening on the flight.but now it seems the management doesn't like him to fly anymore.. why?
after flying a plane that was rumored to have been released by maintenance when there was something wrong with one engine's hydraulic supply?he got the plane to its destination without anything happening on the flight.but now it seems the management doesn't like him to fly anymore.. why?
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340 dismissal
I pity the 340 crews, after all this years of loyalty. 
Its another story when working for an overseas airline, but come on- nasa pinas ka naman, can't it be a demotion or suspension na lang, at least the guy can still get back in his feet.
Its another story when working for an overseas airline, but come on- nasa pinas ka naman, can't it be a demotion or suspension na lang, at least the guy can still get back in his feet.
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My main MAN !
No doubt about it. He does'nt lick ass and always accomplishes his job. Ed Diaz is principled most of all ! Maybe those PAL mgmt pilots should learn from their junior! 
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a340 dismissal
Yo DM! wanna fly over the fence, believe me its a lot better pay wise, condition, and benefit wise, most of all we are treated here as professionals......
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Yo DM! wanna fly over the fence, believe me its a lot better pay wise, condition, and benefit wise, most of all we are treated here as professionals......
its no longer a hard decision for DM to fly over the fence.sadly, it took being blamed for a fault that maintenance caused.what about the airbus that clipped its tail on a hill on approach , the captain got demotion to f/o and is back as captain again. DM never ran into any hill. how does management formulate these penalties? safe to say its not DM's problem anymore. but it can be management's problem if the line crew feel their actions could be heavily sanctioned to (in DM's case) cut off a few millions in retirement benefit.poor move.
Yo DM! wanna fly over the fence, believe me its a lot better pay wise, condition, and benefit wise, most of all we are treated here as professionals......
its no longer a hard decision for DM to fly over the fence.sadly, it took being blamed for a fault that maintenance caused.what about the airbus that clipped its tail on a hill on approach , the captain got demotion to f/o and is back as captain again. DM never ran into any hill. how does management formulate these penalties? safe to say its not DM's problem anymore. but it can be management's problem if the line crew feel their actions could be heavily sanctioned to (in DM's case) cut off a few millions in retirement benefit.poor move.
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Yo DM! wanna fly over the fence, believe me its a lot better pay wise, condition, and benefit wise, most of all we are treated here as professionals......
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Can anyone enlighten me on how much do PAL pilots make? Are the working conditions here that bad that pinoy pilots would opt to work abroad?
I just feel concerned for those who are and would like to pursue their dreams of becoming pilots here in the philippines... can anyone describe how is it working for PAL?
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Can anyone enlighten me on how much do PAL pilots make? Are the working conditions here that bad that pinoy pilots would opt to work abroad?
I just feel concerned for those who are and would like to pursue their dreams of becoming pilots here in the philippines... can anyone describe how is it working for PAL?
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Dm.. Ed Diaz Etc
sorry, but as per record, during the upgrade of DM to captaincy on 330, he was already showing signs of reluctancy and indicisiveness...that is why em had him do a repeat on a trip to sydney.... IT WAS THE SAME ISSUE, AS TO HOW TO HANDLE ECAM...
mananagement might be harsh but it is correct and accurate...hey, he damaged an engine and caused tremendous passenger discomfort right? if in doubt, follow ecam.. if further, call management thru hf and ask for advise...we have pal radio standing by 24 hours....
termination..well, too many pilots means easy termination\
climb the fence...HA HA,,,,GOOD LUCK...who would hire you if you are terminated besides...rose sales does not think you are worthy anyway, he Has always doubted your ( dm) capacity to decide...
ed diaz...who is this lic ass alwayS lobbyinig this ed....he was not cool at all, sorry buy he was protecting his ass too.... sorry but he is no good as management as far as i know.... he just protected his skin, he just did wHAT was popular and safe not the decision that WAS RIGHT AND JUST SO SORRY, HE IS A LOSER IN MY BOOK...NEED TO KNOW MORE,.....
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mananagement might be harsh but it is correct and accurate...hey, he damaged an engine and caused tremendous passenger discomfort right? if in doubt, follow ecam.. if further, call management thru hf and ask for advise...we have pal radio standing by 24 hours....
termination..well, too many pilots means easy termination\
climb the fence...HA HA,,,,GOOD LUCK...who would hire you if you are terminated besides...rose sales does not think you are worthy anyway, he Has always doubted your ( dm) capacity to decide...
ed diaz...who is this lic ass alwayS lobbyinig this ed....he was not cool at all, sorry buy he was protecting his ass too.... sorry but he is no good as management as far as i know.... he just protected his skin, he just did wHAT was popular and safe not the decision that WAS RIGHT AND JUST SO SORRY, HE IS A LOSER IN MY BOOK...NEED TO KNOW MORE,.....
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It's not even as good as the Mafia.
The Mafia has very clear cut rules that apply to all its members. You break the rules, you suffer the consequences. There are no exceptions.
PAL management is more like the Philippine government. The leadership is corrupt. Those being led are either oblivious to this fact or are resigned to accept the status quo. There are good people all over the organization. If you do your job well and keep your mouth shut, you keep your job. Squawk about the corruption loud enough and you're toast.
Violations of policy can result in harsh sanctions. But if you are well-connected nothing will happen to you and everybody else will be told not to do what you did.
One idiot couldn't get his APU started at an outlying station with no ground support equipment but managed to deplane his passengers, unload the cargo compartments, load them up again, then board the outbound passengers without having to shut down both engines. He still works there.
But then he is a classmate of the fellow who wrote the subsequent notice to pilots prohibiting everybody else from doing the same thing. But everybody else already knew that!
Go figure.
PAL management is more like the Philippine government. The leadership is corrupt. Those being led are either oblivious to this fact or are resigned to accept the status quo. There are good people all over the organization. If you do your job well and keep your mouth shut, you keep your job. Squawk about the corruption loud enough and you're toast.
Violations of policy can result in harsh sanctions. But if you are well-connected nothing will happen to you and everybody else will be told not to do what you did.
One idiot couldn't get his APU started at an outlying station with no ground support equipment but managed to deplane his passengers, unload the cargo compartments, load them up again, then board the outbound passengers without having to shut down both engines. He still works there.
But then he is a classmate of the fellow who wrote the subsequent notice to pilots prohibiting everybody else from doing the same thing. But everybody else already knew that!
Go figure.