DGCA CPL Conversion Exams
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Patriotism is love of and devotion for your country. Not hatred for others. A cricket follower/fan is equally dissapointed when his/her team looses to any other team. And India pakistan is bit more like Australia and kiwis.....But in asia we just take it out of proportion....
Are you confident on that??? I will pay you INR 30 lacs or more if you get me the dgca paper....
I agree there might be shop stewards, lazy, incompetent, whingers who can't study and are willing to shell out thier parents money...But how many actually got it done....There are many who want the paper to be leaked but can you get it done...nope....
Out of 4000 pilots i think such pilots will be like 100...Thats it...But what you said is true upto a point....And now there won't be any induction so i cannot imagine such procedures being followed anymore without any job in any airline....
It's sad but true how the aviation industry works....I think the whole aviation industry needs to be bit more transparent and a major change is required in industry.....
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If cricket matches are about sportsmanship and NOT got anything to do with national feeling, would you care to explain the sheer passion, frustration, anger and fury of the crowds when India loses a Match ONLY to pakistan as opposed to say a loss against Australia or any other country ????
Mate ! If you think leaking of DGCA exam papers and this "pay to pass exams" thing does not happen anymore, Im quite certain you are living under a rock ! ... or somewhere in Kanyakumari or Andaman/Nicobar islands... cut off from rest of the country. You'll be shocked to know just how much every guy/gal is willing to shell out to pass these papers and get their licences converted ASAP !!!
Are you confident on that??? I will pay you INR 30 lacs or more if you get me the dgca paper....
I agree there might be shop stewards, lazy, incompetent, whingers who can't study and are willing to shell out thier parents money...But how many actually got it done....There are many who want the paper to be leaked but can you get it done...nope....
About the "pay for job" thing. It is very much there in India.
It is something like the "NRI or management quota" system in Colleges and Universites in India .. where people who are unable to make it based on merit .. they end up paying a phenomenal amount and get a seat in a college of their choice and stream.
I had written about this in an earlier post. The ones who give a job upon payment of some money are not your usual agents, but rather HR managers/others in the Airline itself. Since there is no proper auditing system, such things go unnoticed.
Again ... you will be shocked how much money these people ask for the job and the number of guys/gals gladly willing to pay !It's like when there are 20 vacancies, 8 to 10 of them are PFJ (Pay for job).
I had written about this in an earlier post. The ones who give a job upon payment of some money are not your usual agents, but rather HR managers/others in the Airline itself. Since there is no proper auditing system, such things go unnoticed.
Again ... you will be shocked how much money these people ask for the job and the number of guys/gals gladly willing to pay !It's like when there are 20 vacancies, 8 to 10 of them are PFJ (Pay for job).
It's sad but true how the aviation industry works....I think the whole aviation industry needs to be bit more transparent and a major change is required in industry.....
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Schumi
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Trying to prepare for my DGCA conversion. Which books do you all use to study. Most of training was done using Jeppessen. Where do I get the book that will help me with DGCA regulations. Any help will be highly appreciated.
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Does anayboy know One Capt Victor D zouza. he is in Sri lanka and his Contract was terminated by UL.
bugger is playing havoc here by eating out and taking helps by Students and fellow Pilots.
What a shame ,,,,,
bugger is playing havoc here by eating out and taking helps by Students and fellow Pilots.
What a shame ,,,,,
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Dgca Conversion- Faa Cpl
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I have a FAA cpl and have attempeted the DCCA exms twice and did not pass. Do you know anyone who can help me If you know what I mean!!!
I would be grateful if you can kindly help me out.
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I have a FAA cpl and have attempeted the DCCA exms twice and did not pass. Do you know anyone who can help me If you know what I mean!!!
I would be grateful if you can kindly help me out.
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Trying to prepare for my DGCA conversion. Which books do you all use to study. Most of training was done using Jeppessen. Where do I get the book that will help me with DGCA regulations. Any help will be highly appreciated.
Hi there NextGen73
Well since you are going to give the conversion exam I suggest to go for Ground Studies for Pilots series for Navigation, Radio Aids, Instrument Aids and yes of course, do study that Jeppessen books for Practical Met. This may be contrary to others who might say that Jeppessen is no good for Met. questions which come in DGCA composite test, but believe me this time in the January,2009 Paper there were more than 25 questions of Met. There were alot of practical met Ques. and if you knew your Jeppessen very well then it would be piece of cake for you.
But i suggest you to go to a good instructors for studying for the conversion exam, Because you have to agree that a teacher does make alot of things much simplified for you, given that you have to study for these tough papers of such vast syllabus in just 2 months time.You can get the list of instructors from <<http://www.ippilots.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=116>>
I think it might have helped.
Hi there NextGen73
Well since you are going to give the conversion exam I suggest to go for Ground Studies for Pilots series for Navigation, Radio Aids, Instrument Aids and yes of course, do study that Jeppessen books for Practical Met. This may be contrary to others who might say that Jeppessen is no good for Met. questions which come in DGCA composite test, but believe me this time in the January,2009 Paper there were more than 25 questions of Met. There were alot of practical met Ques. and if you knew your Jeppessen very well then it would be piece of cake for you.
But i suggest you to go to a good instructors for studying for the conversion exam, Because you have to agree that a teacher does make alot of things much simplified for you, given that you have to study for these tough papers of such vast syllabus in just 2 months time.You can get the list of instructors from <<http://www.ippilots.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=116>>
I think it might have helped.
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Conversion Help
Hey, anybody help me with the following questions issues I have with the conversion process:
1) How do I get a Verification Letter of my FAA License? I contacted them, and they told me:
" The FAA will respond directly to CAAs request for verification of US Airman Certificate . The FAA cannot verify a US airman certificate to a CAA a the request of the airman. "
2) I have a A-320 and a CL-604 Type rating on my FAA. Will they issue these on my Indian License upon applying for my indian license, or do I need to do something else?
3) I have a canadian CPL/Canadian RT, will they issue me a FRTOL on this basis?
4) Somebody explain me the flight test deal. I have 1000 Hours, and 500 Hours of Jet. I have 500 hours of Jet on a VT registered aircraft flying under FATA, do I really have to do PIC on a Multi and all the day and night stuff when I've done it in a Jet as SIC?
5) Anybody know who I can talk to in the DGCA about this, I keep calling them, but nobody ever answers!
6) I just finished my DGCA Class II, but they said it will take 2-3 months to get the results. I heard I can get an NOC based on my Class 1 FAA medical, and then apply for my Class 1 DGCA. Who do I get this NOC from, the Medical DGCA Head? Who is it? Is there one in bombay?
Thanks for answering my questions, I'm gonna show up to the DGCA, but I want to know something before they bite my head off!
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1) How do I get a Verification Letter of my FAA License? I contacted them, and they told me:
" The FAA will respond directly to CAAs request for verification of US Airman Certificate . The FAA cannot verify a US airman certificate to a CAA a the request of the airman. "
2) I have a A-320 and a CL-604 Type rating on my FAA. Will they issue these on my Indian License upon applying for my indian license, or do I need to do something else?
3) I have a canadian CPL/Canadian RT, will they issue me a FRTOL on this basis?
4) Somebody explain me the flight test deal. I have 1000 Hours, and 500 Hours of Jet. I have 500 hours of Jet on a VT registered aircraft flying under FATA, do I really have to do PIC on a Multi and all the day and night stuff when I've done it in a Jet as SIC?
5) Anybody know who I can talk to in the DGCA about this, I keep calling them, but nobody ever answers!
6) I just finished my DGCA Class II, but they said it will take 2-3 months to get the results. I heard I can get an NOC based on my Class 1 FAA medical, and then apply for my Class 1 DGCA. Who do I get this NOC from, the Medical DGCA Head? Who is it? Is there one in bombay?
Thanks for answering my questions, I'm gonna show up to the DGCA, but I want to know something before they bite my head off!
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Captain wuff...
re: for verification of your FAA certificate and ratings, you can go to this website
Airmen Online Services
create an account, then log in and request verification of certificate privileges. The FAA guys will email it to you in a pdf file immediately, and you can give that to the DGCA when converting your license.
re: Canadian RT
you need to do part I rt exams check the wpc website. Alternatively you can convert your FAA license to a Canadian one, only then can your canadian RT be directly converted without having to take the part I exams.
re: Medical
Talk to the present DGMS at the medical cell and ask him for the noc, dunno if you can do that from mumbai though.
re: jet rating plus day and night checks issue....beats me...dunno that one---ask the guys in the atpl threads, they should know.
check the dgca website www.dgca.nic.in for the phone nos. they have an operator that actually answers, just keep trying all the numbers. I did find the guys who answered pretty helpful, ask for the licensing department.
Cheers!
re: for verification of your FAA certificate and ratings, you can go to this website
Airmen Online Services
create an account, then log in and request verification of certificate privileges. The FAA guys will email it to you in a pdf file immediately, and you can give that to the DGCA when converting your license.
re: Canadian RT
you need to do part I rt exams check the wpc website. Alternatively you can convert your FAA license to a Canadian one, only then can your canadian RT be directly converted without having to take the part I exams.
re: Medical
Talk to the present DGMS at the medical cell and ask him for the noc, dunno if you can do that from mumbai though.
re: jet rating plus day and night checks issue....beats me...dunno that one---ask the guys in the atpl threads, they should know.
check the dgca website www.dgca.nic.in for the phone nos. they have an operator that actually answers, just keep trying all the numbers. I did find the guys who answered pretty helpful, ask for the licensing department.
Cheers!
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DGCA medicals are case in point of the idiotic "red tapism" present.
What normally should take a SINGLE day for a Class 1 , becomes an absolute nightmare in India.
WHY the hell cant they just appoint authorised AME's like the FAA for conducting the medicals ?
As for the conversion , anyone remember this old article ?
DNA: Mumbai: Tough exams aggravate pilot shortage
The profiles of commercial pilots are changing, and so is the business of aviation and the technology of aircraft: we are trying to update study material accordingly. But this won't happen overnight. About the DGCA exams being the toughest to clear, well, that's because we maintain quality
What normally should take a SINGLE day for a Class 1 , becomes an absolute nightmare in India.
WHY the hell cant they just appoint authorised AME's like the FAA for conducting the medicals ?
As for the conversion , anyone remember this old article ?
DNA: Mumbai: Tough exams aggravate pilot shortage
The profiles of commercial pilots are changing, and so is the business of aviation and the technology of aircraft: we are trying to update study material accordingly. But this won't happen overnight. About the DGCA exams being the toughest to clear, well, that's because we maintain quality
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Thanks alot, I finally got the FAA to give me that same link you told me about, and I was emailed the verification letter. I really appreciate your help, good to know their are helpful pilots out there in aviation!
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regarding composite paper!!
hi cocochannel
i would like to know how to go about preparing for the navigation composite exam of dgca coz i have given a number of attempts and all the exams according to me were good and i hv always lost because of 2 to 3 marks except for this time around i lost with a huge margin wen i expected to clear.............how should i prepare for the exam and can i get sample question papers or a good amount of questions that would be helpful for the exam.............
also i would like to know what books to refer to.........????i dont have money to pay and clear the exam and i m capable of working hard do guide me..........waiting for ur reply will b obliged if u can guide me in the right direction so tht i can clear the april attempt exam
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strugglingpilot
i would like to know how to go about preparing for the navigation composite exam of dgca coz i have given a number of attempts and all the exams according to me were good and i hv always lost because of 2 to 3 marks except for this time around i lost with a huge margin wen i expected to clear.............how should i prepare for the exam and can i get sample question papers or a good amount of questions that would be helpful for the exam.............
also i would like to know what books to refer to.........????i dont have money to pay and clear the exam and i m capable of working hard do guide me..........waiting for ur reply will b obliged if u can guide me in the right direction so tht i can clear the april attempt exam
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how did u prepare?
hey Capt WUFF i would like to know how did u clear the exam in the first attempt and can u gimme some notes or help so that i will be able to clear the april attempt of composite exam.........i have been struggling for an year to clear dgca compositr exam and i have begun to loose hope............moreover i cant pay tht huge a mount to clear the exam
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I didnt see any objectional material. However, they worded things different...like for you "PNR" questions they used "Radius of Action". That kind of confused me for a bit, but with the information they gave me I figured it had to be PNR and not CP.
I would focus on the following:
=Payload
-CP/PNR
-Altimeter (traveling from high to low)
-Indian Weather - use the famous Jet air book its simple
Know the different seasons in India and what the winds do and the weather patterns - actually really useful and important to know this.
-Bearing to plot (Rhumb lines and Great Cicles)
-Performance
I think the above are the trickiest, but once you practice them alot you should be able to do them on the test with ease. If anybody needs help let me know, I can send somenotes and whatnot.
I would focus on the following:
=Payload
-CP/PNR
-Altimeter (traveling from high to low)
-Indian Weather - use the famous Jet air book its simple
Know the different seasons in India and what the winds do and the weather patterns - actually really useful and important to know this.
-Bearing to plot (Rhumb lines and Great Cicles)
-Performance
I think the above are the trickiest, but once you practice them alot you should be able to do them on the test with ease. If anybody needs help let me know, I can send somenotes and whatnot.
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....radius of action is PNR. Point of equal time (PET) and equi-time point (ETP) are CP, basics, but trust the DGCA to play around with words.
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