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Old 5th Jul 2009, 14:20
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hey thushar..
soo happy to see u here man..I did that already. I hav been told that since 2009 we hav to write rt exam, thats y i got confused..anyways thanks dude
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Old 4th Aug 2009, 00:29
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Hi, does any one know will I be allowed to take in the holding pattern computer for the Navigation exams? It's a small white jeppesen plastic thing, that you rotate manually. It might save me some time.
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Old 4th Aug 2009, 04:45
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alfamassimo,

The only items allowed are an E6B flight computer, the electronic CX2 computer and a scientific calculator.
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hey are the indian airlines ever gonna hire fos again?
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not anytime soon buddy..
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Old 4th Aug 2009, 08:18
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More about "who you know" and "how much moolah you have" rather than how many hours/ratings you have now.
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Alfamassimo, I suspect shanx is right, I didn't check on that. However, I did put my asa holding computer and the e6b, right on top of the table for the examiners to see along with the cx n sci-cal, no one commented on it.

On the job front...spicejet might be hiring, not sure if they need cpl holders or experienced pilots....

SpiceJet to step up headcount- Airlines / Aviation-Transportation-News By Industry-News-The Economic Times
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Hey

hey buddy, jus follow WPC webiste for canadian RT conversion into Indian.
follow this link.WPC Home
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they are not hiring any cpl holders.
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Old 4th Aug 2009, 18:06
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@ Shanx,

Just to reiterate what you said,

"Its all about WHOM you know and not exactly WHAT you know!"

Its always been like that in Indian Aviation.............always!
And by the looks of it, ain't gonna change anytime soon!
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Old 9th Aug 2009, 06:08
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thnks for the reply shanx and jetzup
@ those who took the april exams or anyone who knows about it, any idea were the" necessary corrective actions" really taken by the DGCA for the technical questions in navigation paper case? Were there really that many tech questions?
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Old 9th Aug 2009, 10:57
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IMHO, one should not need to use a holding computer, especially if you're on ground! you should be able to figure it out mentally.

if you're in the air, high workload etc ... just draw it out on a piece of paper ...

just my 2 cents.
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Old 9th Aug 2009, 19:00
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alfa, yes there were quite a lot of technical questions in the composite, and air nav as well. I have answered pm's to me about it earlier. Plenty of objections. As regards to the corrective action taken by the DGCA, it's hard to tell. I think they probably did a bit of it. The fail rates that hovered around 75-80% for air nav and nav comp for the april exams r quite high, especially for nav.comp, but not exactly off the charts for dgca exams.

Don't worry though, I am sure they will be extra careful this time around when setting the paper. You will most lkely get pretty decent and standard exam questions this session as there will be a lot of scrutiny. Don't freak out if you happen to get strange questions, just be calm, skip it. and answer those you know carefully and come back to them later, write objections if you have to.

Best of luck!
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Old 10th Aug 2009, 07:31
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An important reminder - ask for the objection sheet as soon as you see an incorrect question (or, a question with incorrect answers).
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Old 11th Aug 2009, 03:53
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I remember one of my friends telling me, one of the "out of syllabus" questions was something related to flaps and stalling speed or angle etc.

While it may be technically "out of syllabus", one wonders what kind of applicants sat for the exam, if they can not answer such basic stuff related to flying. To top it, this was in the COMPOSITE paper, which means candidates had a foreign CPL.
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one wonders what kind of applicants sat for the exam, if they can not answer such basic stuff related to flying.
Well, mate even helicopter pilots sat for the same exam. So, DGCA should look after them also. And trust me there are no flaps in a helicopter.
I know couple of experienced pilots (thousands of hours in heli) who got stuck in the exam but passed after DGCA took corrective measures.

Also, inclusion of such questions in the exam just shows that the committee/person who made exam didn't knew anything about flying.
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Old 11th Aug 2009, 05:28
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@Schumi-RedBaron

Fair enough. your argument defending Helicopter guys may be right here, but almost all the guys whom I heard complaining about the Nav exam were all CPL fixed wing students. And they had finished their flying training from US, Canada, Australia barely 2-3 months back.
Hence my statement.
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Old 11th Aug 2009, 07:30
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When an exam is outside the syllabus anyone would complain as it is not standard, students don't get the chance to revise as they should before any exams. DGCA as an examining authority is suppose to set the standard and know the difference. Some friends who took the composite complained quite a lot and had said that they could answer many of the technical questions but can't be sure as they didn't revise so it was not a sure pass for them (all 3 passed). I guess that's what nikaviator meant by 'it was hard to tell'.

Look at it this way if only a handful of heli guys complained maybe it wouldn't have been that effective and no corrective measures would have been taken, so it was for the best of everybody in this case and for the future that the complaints were filed!
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Old 13th Aug 2009, 13:07
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@nik
you were right buddy. No nasty surprises in store for me this time. And didn't have to use the hold pattern comp.

Questions were all clean, only very few of them for small marks that I had to come back and re-read and answer since it was not on the top of my head, hence had to dig in. I think more people will pass in this session. I am still keeping my fingers crossed though, you never know with the dgca people.
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Old 19th Aug 2009, 16:26
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@Alfamassimo, good to hear that.

It looks like you are going to clear it, so life after the dgca exams and conversion awaits. You should have a plan B/C ready if you don't intend to follow the "pay the employer/agents to work, and get paid peanuts from your own money" plan. This seems to be the rage in the indian aviation recruiting scene.
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