Clark Aviation 12 month MPL program -not achievable????

[jester_icarus]

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here!!...here!!!....... do some basic nav xcrty.

[kurimaw]

yowdude.....


i know that you're telling about.......

about the INOP of A/THR and A/P.....


don't know why this kind of creepy situation happend??
one is in TO position-- other is in GA position....


about in A/P.... haven't read yet in my AOM in my p.c..
and AMM in my c.d....


i don't know what strategies will i do to start my flying lessons....
because lots of money will be needed..and time

but i'm already finishing my studies as a Aircraft Technician this march...
related in A/C maintenance....hoping to have a work after i grad..




even i dont have any experience in flying or maintenance...


Aircraft...specially in Widebody and Turbined powered...
is not a joke or like playing in Flight simulator.

you must have a extensive knowledge and experience on how to operate a certain aircraft......


cause the pilot and a/c maintenance motto:

"One Miss, You'll Die"


Manuals of a A320.....will consist of thousands of pages....

AOM(Aircraft Operations Manual)consist of 1200+pages...only basic and only one of the chapters in ATA chapterization...

AMM(Aircraft Maintenance Manual)consist of 5000+pages....full detail of A320...


and ATA chapterization will reach up to 99 chapters...

what more in larger aircraft? (747,777,A330,A340,A380)



but thanks for the advice....

i hope that i can find a good GenAv School here in Domestic or Subic..
to start my flying lessons after i grad. this march....


i've start playing my flight simulator in my p.c last year...
and i've familiarizing about the flight system of 747-400


Starting from APU...up to Starting the engine...

Using The FMC....the SID/STAR, waypoint route,
VNAV navigation, A/P usage...etc..

but i need more experience than playing in my p.c...


thanks and happy flying...

[jester_icarus]

kurimaw

hope you well on your AP. this is probly the best way to get into aviation. go to the flightline and ask around if a mechinc is needed. if you cant find one... ask to trade for some wrench time for some flight time and meanwhile do some work on the side to supplement your income.

sim is cool... but get some stick time. this will go a long way.

lots of C172 in cebu flying tourist. im sure one of them needs a mechanic.

goodluck

[jester_icarus]

kurimaw

....and meanwhile i would start reading and studying your first flying written test instead of learning about 747 systems....

find some PPL, IFR books and start studying those. you wont see any FMS, GPS coupler..etc on a C172 or a 152 trainer... or any trainer for that matter....

godspeed.....

[kurimaw]

thanks for the good advice, jester_icarus...


i hope that i can make it....


and do it on time....


acutally...i've downloaded many AOM files in the web...
(A320,A330,A340, 737-300-400-500, 747-400, & 777-200LR)

although it is illegal and highly confidential......
but i really need this files as my future reference...
to apply in PAL and fly their new 777-300ER
or A320-214

about the AMM...(very high confidential)....SECRET!


but i'll try to find the books of C172, Baron58, ATR72,
jeppesen, PPL and IR books....


i know that PAL and CEBUPAC orders ATR72....
and required of 500hrs CPL IR experience...
to fly their aircraft as a F/O....


dont know what happend next....but push my luck!!


thanks and happy flying

[alpha12039]

Crop Dusting Rating

Is it true that Clark Aviation is offering a new rating??

Crop Ratings - Only at CIA!

My Mommy says "If you work real hard you'll earn your wings and be the world's top crop sprayer

Can someone please confirm.

[manina]

Nice Planes

Too bad the only thing going for Clark Av was their airplanes.

I really liked the profile of the Alpha.

[ww1]

kurimaw

"...although it is illegal and highly confidential......
but i really need this files as my future reference...
to apply in PAL and fly their new 777-300ER
or A320-214 about the AMM...(very high confidential)....SECRET!"

Very nice way to start a career. One wonders how your employer would view this - sounds like outright theft, but you already knew that, didn't you? Based on this and all the other idiocies you post, one hopes you never become a pilot. We don't need the likes of you.

[paolylo]

sus kurimaw...

i rest my case.

[cherokee86November]

kurims,

" i've start playing my flight simulator in my p.c last year...
and i've familiarizing about the flight system of 747-400


Starting from APU...up to Starting the engine...

Using The FMC....the SID/STAR, waypoint route,
VNAV navigation, A/P usage...etc.. "

WOW......lets see these recover from a power off stall or help you do ground reference maneuvers.....or even better....lets see these help you do a short-field landing at Omni!!

i would love to see that look on ur face when u see that 6 pack in front of u onboard a cessna......lets see how u would track a VOR radial given ur "experience" with vnav navigation.....hahhahahaha

LOL


Tower: "Cessna XXX, cleared for takeoff, runway heading"

CFI: "Ok Kurimaw, push the throttle all the way to give it full power for takeoff

Kurims: "No, the A/TH is a killer!! might get stuck in GA position!!!"

CFI:

Loko lang.....goodluck sayo!!

[Mikkideez]

It is true that Clark Aviation is in its infancy stages, and like all others, it's pretty difficult to set these things up...but who knows, maybe the MPL is the way of the future. Give it a chance...let's get out of this crab mentality, and think positively of what the MPL, or Clark Aviation can bring to our industry. Things just don't evolve in just a day...it may take days, weeks, months, or even years. But with a little positive thinking, good things can definitely come out.

For all those critics that yap all day how CIA sucks, and is not a great school to go to...take a look around at the other schools here in the Philippines (even the one that used to be beside PATTS), and you will see that CIA actually LOOKS good. All the others are just a bunch of "We need your $$$$ or PPPP" flight schools. I don't really think that the average CPL license holder has ever done a chandelle, a lazy eight here and there, ground reference manuevers or even stalls (well maybe one or two stalls)...but that's it. "Let's build some time and fly cross country to Boracay!!!" Seems like aviation needs the like of CIA to prove to pilots here that flying is not all fun and games.

A little advice to those who want to be pilots (Kurimaw you better read this), it is not CHEAP! But I am sure you guys already knew that...but in the end, if it meant selling a house, a carabao or your "ten-years of work salary savings", I would take a step back and look at the whole picture. Is this what you want to do for the rest of your life?...your life savings (or your parents) depends on it.

Oh and one more thing, if you can stay away from these chizmiz forums, do so. All these jibberish is not gonna help you in attaining your dreams of becoming a professional pilot. Yes Kurimaw...especially you!

Just my two cents.

[aeon]

ei kurimaw

kurimaw,

where are you taking up your AC mech course?

im taking up an avionics bachelor's degree here in the GenAv/Domestic area... its a pretty big school... one of the big names in the Philippine aviation industry... (yabang! hehe) we have a flight school too and we sell manuals of C150, C152, King Air, Baron, Queen Air, Travel Air, C414 chancellor, Musketeer, C172, YS-11.. hehehe we offer ratings for these units too! hehe (nagpromote?) those guys there hu wanna finish a degree in Avionics, AMT, AeroEng'g, Aviation major in Flying... d2 na kayo...

oh, before i forget, about the CIA thing... before i transferred here in my current school, i was thinking of joining the CIA family, but i decided not to because they haven't proved anything yet.. i thought it would be better to take up a related course first before while waiting for CIA to "come of age" hehe

i suggest you gain some experience first as a mechanic before going to flight school, it would also be a good idea to save money... it would be expensive dude... hehe

[FourStripes]

Mikkideez

For all those critics that yap all day how CIA sucks, and is not a great school to go to...take a look around at the other schools here in the Philippines (even the one that used to be beside PATTS), and you will see that CIA actually LOOKS good.

CIA only looks good from the outside, but in the inside its a different story. Yes they may have nice planes and all but they are in violation of ATO regulations. Just look at the ratio of students to airplanes.

3 flyable airplanes vs 50, 60 students on flight status....Come on it doesn't take a genius to figure that one out 8Ball, I mean Mikkideez, I mean Mr. Flight operations manager.

[JV126]

MPL has now been approved by the ATO and the 50-60 that you are referring to are all flying using 9 aircrafts including Omni's. I flew the Alpha last week and have flown the cessna in the past. I am one of the 50-60 cadets that you are referring and I am on the move thanks to 8Ball.

[Mikkideez]

Fourstrips (if you have four stripes, you don't deserve them)...it's official man, you are a bonafide moron. So if you try to be fair sounding, you are 8ball or a Flt Ops Manager? So does that mean that yappers should be known as FourStripe? You are an idiot. Stick around these forums and post coz that's all you probably know how to do.

[FourStripes]

JV126

MPL has now been approved by the ATO

I don't think this is factual. Captain. NL (Former Chief Pilot of Clark Av) is actually making it difficult for ATO to get MPL approved. In fact he is on a crusade to stop CA and this big joke that they are doing.

I'm not here to attack anyone, I'm just stating facts. JV126 do you know the legal student to airplane ratio in the A.O. ?

its 1:10 my friend. CA is in violation!

oops, good thing no one from the ATO reads these forums otherwise the school gets suspend, and we don't want that happening do we now JV126.

[FourStripes]

JV126

the 50-60 that you are referring to are all flying using 9 aircrafts including Omni's

the 9 aircraft you are referring to are all VFR rated by the ATO. How many IFR aircraft does CA have right now?

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nada

zilch

my friend you are in one world class school for pilots.......not!

[JV126]

[quote]the 9 aircraft you are referring to are all VFR rated by the ATO. How many IFR aircraft does CA have right now?

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nada

Semantic nul from a frightened child edited.

I don't think this is factual. Captain. NL (Former Chief Pilot of Clark Av) is actually making it difficult for ATO to get MPL approved.

Strike three -- you're OUT !!!.... And this idiot plays to jeopardize my future
and and the future of over 100 cadets and refuses to believe the fact that it is already done. Further nonsense continues but still scared.

You said

do you know the legal student to airplane ratio in the A.O. ?

its 1:10 my friend. CA is in violation!

Discussions of demons and possession but still no facts


All in all an outstanding rebutal other than an absence of anything coherent written by an adult. Just imagine this sad child holding a piece of paper that would allow them in the right seat of a transport aircraft.

[King ECAM]

JV126

From your reactions I would say that you are in denial. It seems to me that you are afraid of the truth.

It is true that CIA has no IFR rated Alpha.

It is also true that the student to airplane ratio totally goes against the regs in the A.O.

Basing on your response maybe you should consider other options instead of MPL. If you feel that your future is in jeopardy then maybe it is.

my 2 cents......

[Eight Ball]

To the cadets - ignore these postings, just carry on with your ground and flight training.

Some people will always try and destroy what you have started. Filipino crab mentality. Know how to control this.

Goodluck to all cadets. Nothing in life is ever easy and it will not be handed to you in a silver platter.