Hijacked MAS flight MH 653 on 4th December 1977
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Alamak, Munajeeb and Benar..........you guys are really thick in the head. Why did you post about Tanjung Gemuk, Masjid PD and pariah encounter at Tullamarine? Now you have scared of sunny, rain and debby! They gonna get the polis dirosak to investigate your IP lah....messylah to give duit lasuah ala latuk!
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The things you hear on the greens
Hi colleagues in AK and MAS, you must count your blessings.....got a word from Human Resources that the snake is putting feelers for a comeback now that his Korean contract is not gonna be renewed. So fella, you are forewarned. The father / son snake team is surely bad news if he sets foot again in your rice bowl!
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Well, looks like bad news if he does weasel himself into AK or MAS. Most likely his fellow reptilian cohoot rat will slot him into firefly. Woe to you fireflies if you let him rise up in your ranks!
The things you hear on the greens
Hi colleagues in AK and MAS, you must count your blessings.....got a word from Human Resources that the snake is putting feelers for a comeback now that his Korean contract is not gonna be renewed. So fella, you are forewarned. The father / son snake team is surely bad news if he sets foot again in your rice bowl!
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Well, looks like bad news if he does weasel himself into AK or MAS. Most likely his fellow reptilian cohoot rat will slot him into firefly. Woe to you fireflies if you let him rise up in your ranks!
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Jet airways coonection
Now that Jet Airways is almost belly up, what recourse has those who were recruited ( read conned ) by him to join in 2006/2007? Not easy to get a job these days when Jet lay off people?
Thank God I did not join the band wagon to Jet; coming from Ipoh, we all know his rotten reputation. Just feel sorry for those duped by him.
Thank God I did not join the band wagon to Jet; coming from Ipoh, we all know his rotten reputation. Just feel sorry for those duped by him.
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Yep, got confirmation from someone back from kimchiland...the pariah bhai is going to be out on a limb but pity you guys in AK and firefly as it looks like he will be grovelling at your bosses feet soon. Rain drops falling on mona head
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Thanks for that link , I think I finally found what I was looking for.And just for the record , The Bhai and RAT no longer hold any sort of bargaining power in Jet.They lost it a long time ago...have a good day guys
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The things you hear on the greens
Hi colleagues in AK and MAS, you must count your blessings.....got a word from Human Resources that the snake is putting feelers for a comeback now that his Korean contract is not gonna be renewed. So fella, you are forewarned. The father / son snake team is surely bad news if he sets foot again in your rice bowl
Hi colleagues in AK and MAS, you must count your blessings.....got a word from Human Resources that the snake is putting feelers for a comeback now that his Korean contract is not gonna be renewed. So fella, you are forewarned. The father / son snake team is surely bad news if he sets foot again in your rice bowl
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OK guys, got it!
Now let's get back to the original subject of the MH 653 hijack...........any chance MAPA can write to Discovery or National Geographic to research into the incident and maybe produce a documentary like the Ethiopian Airways accident? I believe they will jump at the chance if our veterans in MAS and DCA can provide them with the necessary materials for their project.
Now let's get back to the original subject of the MH 653 hijack...........any chance MAPA can write to Discovery or National Geographic to research into the incident and maybe produce a documentary like the Ethiopian Airways accident? I believe they will jump at the chance if our veterans in MAS and DCA can provide them with the necessary materials for their project.
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You think the politicians will allow it.? Never can in Bolehland !
MAS had 3 accidents and non made it to the television.
Also why SIA Taipeh incident also not shown in ah?
MAS had 3 accidents and non made it to the television.
Also why SIA Taipeh incident also not shown in ah?
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MH 653 hijack documentary?
It is extremely difficult to do a credible story if the Malaysian government, DCA, UTK and the police do not cooperate and provide the requisite information. As suspected, most of the info are politically sensitive and the powers that be are wary of the damage it can do to their " world ".
Sky Dancer, have you been dancing high on booze and ice? MAS had 3 major disasters, MH 653 hijack in 1977, Airbus A300 ( MH 642 )prang with no human casualties at Subang village in 1982 and the F-50 disaster in Tawau in 1995 while not forgetting the camel's near disasterous ground loop at KCH back in the 80s.
Sky Dancer, have you been dancing high on booze and ice? MAS had 3 major disasters, MH 653 hijack in 1977, Airbus A300 ( MH 642 )prang with no human casualties at Subang village in 1982 and the F-50 disaster in Tawau in 1995 while not forgetting the camel's near disasterous ground loop at KCH back in the 80s.
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Mates, I'll give another MAS accident don't forget 9M-MGG in Sibu around 1992 when the left undercarriage failed on landing. All survived but the a/c was a mess. If I recall correctly there was also a twin otter there having a rebuild at the same time.
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Hi leftseatview, I don't think Kal was referring to any Sopwith Camel! He was talking about a fruitcake known as " the camel " who weaseled himself into the MAS DFO position some 15 years ago. This camel was MAS A300 fleet manager/ check captain in the 1980's and he managed the near disasterous ground loop at the end of a landing roll after landing long and fast at KCH...it was his route check! And the silly check captain passed him! What a farce?
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Thanks for clearing that up!
i have been a PAX with MAS to LAX via KL and found it to be a very good experience.
So hope you folks can keep all the bad eggs away/at bay.
i am also touched by all your efforts to give respect to Capt Ganjoor's memory and also trying to learn something from that sad experience(hope NG makes an episode)
He must have been a great guy........and fortunate in flying for an Airline were former collegues keep his memory close to their heart
i have been a PAX with MAS to LAX via KL and found it to be a very good experience.
So hope you folks can keep all the bad eggs away/at bay.
i am also touched by all your efforts to give respect to Capt Ganjoor's memory and also trying to learn something from that sad experience(hope NG makes an episode)
He must have been a great guy........and fortunate in flying for an Airline were former collegues keep his memory close to their heart
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MAS woes
Recent rumblings about gross corruption in managing MAS in the 80's and 90's. Look like more juicy details are about to surface; what about the stories of double dipping during MAS's illfated dalliance with Jet Airways?
By Wayne Arnold
The New York Times
December 27, 2002
First he lost control of Malaysia's national airline, then one of its biggest cellular operators. Now Tajudin Ramli, the tycoon whose corporate empire has been besieged by the very government that helped him build it, appears to have lost control of his flagship holding company, too.
Malaysia's bad-debt agency, Pengurusan Danaharta, appointed special administrators earlier this week to take over day-to-day operations at Mr. Tajudin's aviation holding company, Naluri. The move came after the agency scrapped a 510.9 million ringgit ($134 million) deal to sell Mr. Tajudin's 45 percent stake in Naluri to recover some of the roughly 1 billion ringgit he owes Danaharta.
''We have to make sure that our rights are protected,'' said Izhar Hifnei Ismail, an agency spokesman. ''What we really want to see is that whatever value there is preserved.''
Seizing control of Naluri also gives the agency control of roughly 900 million ringgit ($236 million) left over from the government's much criticized, 1.8 billion ringgit buyout in late 2000 of Mr. Tajudin's stake in the Malaysian Airline System, the flag carrier. Naluri's new administrators will now be able to open Naluri's books, repeating a process that has already produced charges of financial misconduct against Mr. Tajudin at the two other companies he used to run.
The unraveling of Mr. Tajudin's holdings and the surrounding scandal are part of a purge by Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad of the entrepreneurs he once relied on as nation builders. In their place, he has promoted a group of technocrats, like those who run Danaharta, to overhaul corporate Malaysia.
While it no longer has a business of its own, Naluri owns stakes in four small airlines, including World Airways in the United States. It also owns part of a Malaysian aircraft parts company with Boeing. Executives at Naluri said they were prohibited from commenting by the special administrators. Mr. Tajudin was unavailable, they said.
A former merchant banker, Mr. Tajudin rose to prominence in the late 1980's under Daim Zainuddin, then the finance minister. Mr. Tajudin's company, Technology Resources Industries, bought Naluri, then called Malaysian Helicopter Services, from the struggling Malaysian Airline System in 1991. The same year, Technology Resources bought the country's sole cellular operator, Celcom.
Mr. Tajudin capped the rapid expansion of Malaysian Helicopter in 1994 by turning around and paying 1.79 billion ringgit in cash for the central bank's controlling stake in Malaysian Airline System, financing the purchase with a huge loan backed by his own shareholdings.
Mr. Tajudin's borrowing caught up with him, however, when the Asian financial crisis hit Malaysia in 1997. While Technology Resources and Celcom managed to win restructuring deals with creditors, Mr. Tajudin tried in vain to sell his stake in Malaysian Airline to pay off debts.
In late 2000, the government -- with Mr. Daim doing a reprise as finance minister -- finally bought out Mr. Tajudin, paying Naluri the same price per share it had paid for Malaysian Airline seven years earlier. The bailout, which paid Mr. Tajudin more than twice the prevailing market price, provoked widespread public outrage and was followed by the ouster of Mr. Daim.
Since then, the airline's new managers have asked the police to investigate allegations of irregularities involving a contract with a Naluri cargo venture in Germany.
The new owner of Technology Resources has made similar accusations. Mr. Tajudin lost control of the company last spring when he failed to make payments on roughly 1 billion ringgit in personal loans backed by his stakes in Technology Resources and Naluri. Securities regulators refused to let him use the funds raised by the sale of his Malaysian Airline stake, much of which is still at Naluri. Danaharta, which had bought the loans from local banks, in turn sold his stake in Technology Resources to Telekom Malaysia.
This summer, Danaharta agreed to sell Mr. Tajudin's stake in Naluri to a little-known company called Valiant Entity. Local newspapers have linked Valiant to Mr. Tajudin, but Danaharta said it had no evidence of a connection. Either way, when Valiant failed to provide Danaharta with a required letter of credit for the purchase by a Dec. 17 deadline, Danaharta called off the sale and appointed special administrators for Naluri from KPMG.
Taking over the management of Naluri is an extraordinary move: the agency usually takes over only deeply indebted companies that it deems beyond restructuring. Naluri has no debts. But Mr. Tajudin remains Naluri's chairman and largest shareholder. In August, Naluri proposed buying back roughly 830 million ringgit in stock from its shareholders.
The New York Times
December 27, 2002
First he lost control of Malaysia's national airline, then one of its biggest cellular operators. Now Tajudin Ramli, the tycoon whose corporate empire has been besieged by the very government that helped him build it, appears to have lost control of his flagship holding company, too.
Malaysia's bad-debt agency, Pengurusan Danaharta, appointed special administrators earlier this week to take over day-to-day operations at Mr. Tajudin's aviation holding company, Naluri. The move came after the agency scrapped a 510.9 million ringgit ($134 million) deal to sell Mr. Tajudin's 45 percent stake in Naluri to recover some of the roughly 1 billion ringgit he owes Danaharta.
''We have to make sure that our rights are protected,'' said Izhar Hifnei Ismail, an agency spokesman. ''What we really want to see is that whatever value there is preserved.''
Seizing control of Naluri also gives the agency control of roughly 900 million ringgit ($236 million) left over from the government's much criticized, 1.8 billion ringgit buyout in late 2000 of Mr. Tajudin's stake in the Malaysian Airline System, the flag carrier. Naluri's new administrators will now be able to open Naluri's books, repeating a process that has already produced charges of financial misconduct against Mr. Tajudin at the two other companies he used to run.
The unraveling of Mr. Tajudin's holdings and the surrounding scandal are part of a purge by Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad of the entrepreneurs he once relied on as nation builders. In their place, he has promoted a group of technocrats, like those who run Danaharta, to overhaul corporate Malaysia.
While it no longer has a business of its own, Naluri owns stakes in four small airlines, including World Airways in the United States. It also owns part of a Malaysian aircraft parts company with Boeing. Executives at Naluri said they were prohibited from commenting by the special administrators. Mr. Tajudin was unavailable, they said.
A former merchant banker, Mr. Tajudin rose to prominence in the late 1980's under Daim Zainuddin, then the finance minister. Mr. Tajudin's company, Technology Resources Industries, bought Naluri, then called Malaysian Helicopter Services, from the struggling Malaysian Airline System in 1991. The same year, Technology Resources bought the country's sole cellular operator, Celcom.
Mr. Tajudin capped the rapid expansion of Malaysian Helicopter in 1994 by turning around and paying 1.79 billion ringgit in cash for the central bank's controlling stake in Malaysian Airline System, financing the purchase with a huge loan backed by his own shareholdings.
Mr. Tajudin's borrowing caught up with him, however, when the Asian financial crisis hit Malaysia in 1997. While Technology Resources and Celcom managed to win restructuring deals with creditors, Mr. Tajudin tried in vain to sell his stake in Malaysian Airline to pay off debts.
In late 2000, the government -- with Mr. Daim doing a reprise as finance minister -- finally bought out Mr. Tajudin, paying Naluri the same price per share it had paid for Malaysian Airline seven years earlier. The bailout, which paid Mr. Tajudin more than twice the prevailing market price, provoked widespread public outrage and was followed by the ouster of Mr. Daim.
Since then, the airline's new managers have asked the police to investigate allegations of irregularities involving a contract with a Naluri cargo venture in Germany.
The new owner of Technology Resources has made similar accusations. Mr. Tajudin lost control of the company last spring when he failed to make payments on roughly 1 billion ringgit in personal loans backed by his stakes in Technology Resources and Naluri. Securities regulators refused to let him use the funds raised by the sale of his Malaysian Airline stake, much of which is still at Naluri. Danaharta, which had bought the loans from local banks, in turn sold his stake in Technology Resources to Telekom Malaysia.
This summer, Danaharta agreed to sell Mr. Tajudin's stake in Naluri to a little-known company called Valiant Entity. Local newspapers have linked Valiant to Mr. Tajudin, but Danaharta said it had no evidence of a connection. Either way, when Valiant failed to provide Danaharta with a required letter of credit for the purchase by a Dec. 17 deadline, Danaharta called off the sale and appointed special administrators for Naluri from KPMG.
Taking over the management of Naluri is an extraordinary move: the agency usually takes over only deeply indebted companies that it deems beyond restructuring. Naluri has no debts. But Mr. Tajudin remains Naluri's chairman and largest shareholder. In August, Naluri proposed buying back roughly 830 million ringgit in stock from its shareholders.
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Alamak, Munajeeb and Benar..........you guys are really thick in the head. Why did you post about Tanjung Gemuk, Masjid PD and pariah encounter at Tullamarine? Now you have scared of sunny, rain and debby! They gonna get the polis dirosak to investigate your IP lah....messylah to give duit lasuah ala latuk!
Their posts certainly make for nice bar room laughs........however preposterous they may seem.
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Leftseatview, it's a pleasure to hear that you enjoyed your experience with MH flights to LAX. Just would like you to know that the old generation of MAS pilots who knew Babu Ganjoor thought highly of him even though he was an Indian expat; this was largely due to his people skills. The older generation of MAS pilots came from various ethnic backgrounds and appreciated Babu's professionalism without any racial bias. This, I cannot say for today's talibanised mob which largely swarmed MAS pilot ranks due to the present neo-apartheid policies.
As for the pariah aka datuk gstring alluded to in this thread, he is an absolute disgrace of a low life. We certainly regret the pain and agony he caused to besmirch Babu's memory; the scumbag will certainly be called to account as what goes around definitely comes around.
It is hoped that Babu's family in mother India moved on to do pretty well and if you have contact with them, kindly convey our warm regards and best wishes.
As for the pariah aka datuk gstring alluded to in this thread, he is an absolute disgrace of a low life. We certainly regret the pain and agony he caused to besmirch Babu's memory; the scumbag will certainly be called to account as what goes around definitely comes around.
It is hoped that Babu's family in mother India moved on to do pretty well and if you have contact with them, kindly convey our warm regards and best wishes.