Air Japan (AJX) B767
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The AJV and AJX (Air Japan and Japan Express) operations (B767'6) are commute contracts ONLY.
IF, IF you could somehow find a way to live in Japan you would be given no status, credentials or assistance in any way from the ANA group.
Yes there are ANA group contracts on 737 and Dash 8 that are live-in; contractor beware, do a LOT of homework if giving them any consideration.
IF, IF you could somehow find a way to live in Japan you would be given no status, credentials or assistance in any way from the ANA group.
Yes there are ANA group contracts on 737 and Dash 8 that are live-in; contractor beware, do a LOT of homework if giving them any consideration.
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Hi galdian,
What do you mean? Is it difficult to obtain resident permit? One agency offers two options - resident or commuting and same money paid. Is it not very tiring to commute to EU?
What do you mean? Is it difficult to obtain resident permit? One agency offers two options - resident or commuting and same money paid. Is it not very tiring to commute to EU?
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To date no contract to fly 767's in an ANA sub (ie Air Japan or Joint Venture. AJX and AJV) have had a non - commute option as it raises questions regarding costs and taxes they have no desire to deal with.
If things have changed happy to stand corrrected HOWEVER make sure you confirm whether they will provide support and sponsorship (then do-able) or whether they leave it totally up to you to sort out (then virtually impossible.)
cheers
galdian
To date no contract to fly 767's in an ANA sub (ie Air Japan or Joint Venture. AJX and AJV) have had a non - commute option as it raises questions regarding costs and taxes they have no desire to deal with.
If things have changed happy to stand corrrected HOWEVER make sure you confirm whether they will provide support and sponsorship (then do-able) or whether they leave it totally up to you to sort out (then virtually impossible.)
cheers
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The following is now posted on HACS' website:
"Visa’s can be supported in 2008 at the crew member’s expense if eligible."
Apparently there is already one that has started the process. I am waiting to see how it plays out with him before I look into it.
"Visa’s can be supported in 2008 at the crew member’s expense if eligible."
Apparently there is already one that has started the process. I am waiting to see how it plays out with him before I look into it.
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Time to interview
What is the time to hear back from first applying .The commuting from Japan to the US is it only to a city that ANA is flying to or is it to any city in the US? Does any one know if there going to be any more airplanes for AJV/AJX.
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Thanks Ishi59, but got a call from HACS and said I didn't score high enough among the other canidates and are now not offering a position to me. I was offered a FO spot but now back on the street.
In a similar boat to you; fighting union grievance will take about 12-18 months which I'm sure you're also going through as well.
Went to interview, was told I passed and everything was good then, a month later, was told although I "passed", my overall score wasn't high enough to make it into the next class (beginning of this year) compared to other candidates. Checked back every month the last 4 months, was told I hadn't made the June class either.
Now that ATA just dumped a hundred or so current and qualified 757 guys on the street who can likely ACE the sim, I imagine this position is likely dead for guys like you and me who might do OK and within tolerances for the interview check but not like someone current and qualified in the aircraft.
Such is life; I was really looking forward to this position and life in Japan (I had a great time when I went over for interview), but I may just stay in the private sector (charter and corporate) if my arbitration doesn't go as well as I hope in July.
If you have any Learjet time, give me a shout, I can definitely hook you up with at least a job that pays the bills until everything else works itself out for you. If you're having trouble with union and grievance channels, shoot me a PM as well. I've helped several guys fight their own grievances when the union isn't doing what they're supposed to do. Be prompt, if you miss the timelines as spelled out in your CBA, you're hosed.
Best of luck to all!
p.s. Senor Dominican, you have been missing all the good weddings from our previous coworkers. Just got back from one in Ohio last night,,, at about 3 in the morning!
They said to say hello...edit: Add EOS to the list of airline shutdowns that will put a bunch of 757 qualified guys on the street. They just filed on Friday. 6 airlines ceasing operations in one month. Good luck to all...
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wait time after interview
Has anyone else ever had to wait longer than two months for a result after their interview? I interviewed in February, but have not heard a thing since then. As far as I know, I've passed everything--sim, medical etc. Alan at HACS has said that it is possible that although I passed, I might not have scored well enough to be offered a class right away--and that might be, though I thought my sim performance was relatively solid. Nevertheless, I'm surprised I haven't received at least some notification one way or the other. Does this seem normal? Also, has anyone who was a "low scorer" ever actually been offered a later class, or is that sort of the polite brush off? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much!
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That's exactly what I was told as well. Interviewed late October, haven't heard anything since except "we're staying on them and haven't heard anything".
However, some people have waited upwards of 6+ months before receiving a class date. Can only imagine that more people interviewing who are current 757 would score better and keep taking the class slots...
Such is life. Good luck!
However, some people have waited upwards of 6+ months before receiving a class date. Can only imagine that more people interviewing who are current 757 would score better and keep taking the class slots...
Such is life. Good luck!
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Regrettably, passing the interview process (both the sim and medical) is not an automatic job offer.
I'm not sure about the concept of passing with higher or lesser degree on the sim interview, for what I have experienced here the Japanese consider a pass and a fail as such and there aren't degrees of one or the other, this might be the contract individual way of saying "I don't know why you haven't been offered a position"
Out of the folks that have passed the interview process they will take their "pick of the litter" if you will, based on previous experience and fill their classes with those individual's. One thing is for sure, with all these airlines closing their doors there are quite a bit of experienced drivers looking for work
I'm not sure about the concept of passing with higher or lesser degree on the sim interview, for what I have experienced here the Japanese consider a pass and a fail as such and there aren't degrees of one or the other, this might be the contract individual way of saying "I don't know why you haven't been offered a position" Out of the folks that have passed the interview process they will take their "pick of the litter" if you will, based on previous experience and fill their classes with those individual's. One thing is for sure, with all these airlines closing their doors there are quite a bit of experienced drivers looking for work
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Thanks guys,
I really appreciate your input. At least now I know I'm not alone in limbo-land! I think we'd all feel a lot happier if all those '57 guys hadn't suddenly been dumped out on the street (I suppose they are even more unhappy about it than we are). Perhaps every last one of them won't come rushing to apply at AJV/AJX though. There are still other gigs out there, and a lot of guys just aren't willing to make that long commute and/or spend 20 days at a time away from the wife and kids. So, fingers crossed....
I really appreciate your input. At least now I know I'm not alone in limbo-land! I think we'd all feel a lot happier if all those '57 guys hadn't suddenly been dumped out on the street (I suppose they are even more unhappy about it than we are). Perhaps every last one of them won't come rushing to apply at AJV/AJX though. There are still other gigs out there, and a lot of guys just aren't willing to make that long commute and/or spend 20 days at a time away from the wife and kids. So, fingers crossed....
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In AJV, we over night in ANC and ORD. In July, we start BKK stays.. In AJX, I know they do Hawaii, Hong Kong and I believe Singapore..
As far as hearing about a class, it can take some time.. I have heard now that some guys “Rank” higher then others and thus will get an offer sooner. 90 days notice is the international standard, so don’t be afraid to tell ANA you need 90 days before you start.
Be aware that 2 more of our friends have NOT passed their final JCAB check… It’s amazing that after 6 months of training on a 25 year old plane, we are all still idiots!!!
As far as hearing about a class, it can take some time.. I have heard now that some guys “Rank” higher then others and thus will get an offer sooner. 90 days notice is the international standard, so don’t be afraid to tell ANA you need 90 days before you start.
Be aware that 2 more of our friends have NOT passed their final JCAB check… It’s amazing that after 6 months of training on a 25 year old plane, we are all still idiots!!!
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At AJX (the passenger side) we don't have any airplanes, we fly the 300ER's from the ANA fleet. At AJV (cargo) I believe 6 A/C's right now (give or take an A/C or two) and they are all new 300ER freighters.
They don't really share their thoughts or plans with the gaijin pilots
How many more are comming?
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Right "Now" the "Plan" is to operate 8 767s. We get #5 in July. Supposed to have 8 by 2011, then get 777.. Be aware the "Plan" could change many times..
If you do a "Normal" 13 day-off monthly schedule, you could have 0-4 days in ORD. If you back to back your sked, I guess you could double that..
Of course, we are opening ORD as a pilot base, so you will be all set!!
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OK, back to heavy drinkning..
If you do a "Normal" 13 day-off monthly schedule, you could have 0-4 days in ORD. If you back to back your sked, I guess you could double that..
Of course, we are opening ORD as a pilot base, so you will be all set!!
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OK, back to heavy drinkning..
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The AJV birds are NEW? As in new to AJV or new as in new from Boeing?
I remember reading somewhere they were changing out the gauges for LCD panels? SO are the AJV birds glass?
P.S. How long is the flight from Japan to ORD?
Also, why is there so much deadheading? (i've read here there is)
777BC would you please post a copy of your roster, or PM me a copy please.
I remember reading somewhere they were changing out the gauges for LCD panels? SO are the AJV birds glass?
P.S. How long is the flight from Japan to ORD?
Also, why is there so much deadheading? (i've read here there is)
777BC would you please post a copy of your roster, or PM me a copy please.
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