Singaporean self-sponsored CPL holders - where are you?
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Originally Posted by ilov3s3lina
after reading the posts........ i started wondering...
why do most of the Self-Sponsored pilot only think of Entering SIA(it seems that SIA is EVERYTHING) right after grtaduation?
probably, your friend who went back to accounting Doesn't have the COrrect Mind-Set and Attitude, thus SIA rejected him. i say he doesn't have the correct mind-set is because he went back to accounting right after he got rejected without even putting in some effort and trying...... maybe he thinks that the sleepless nights spent at the flying school revising CPL papers are enough........ i mean.. come on.. $50k is a BIG SUM of money!! don't he think that it's a big waste if he just waste his license like that?
Well.. notice Many young generation of Singaporeans( as general, not limited to aviators) want it the easy way..... perhaps it's the society or the education system that moulded them into such person.
i think both the Films 'I NOT STUPID' and ' I NOT STUPID II' potrays this fact rather well, Singaporeans put expectations without actually understanding their ability and the limits
why do most of the Self-Sponsored pilot only think of Entering SIA(it seems that SIA is EVERYTHING) right after grtaduation?
probably, your friend who went back to accounting Doesn't have the COrrect Mind-Set and Attitude, thus SIA rejected him. i say he doesn't have the correct mind-set is because he went back to accounting right after he got rejected without even putting in some effort and trying...... maybe he thinks that the sleepless nights spent at the flying school revising CPL papers are enough........ i mean.. come on.. $50k is a BIG SUM of money!! don't he think that it's a big waste if he just waste his license like that?
Well.. notice Many young generation of Singaporeans( as general, not limited to aviators) want it the easy way..... perhaps it's the society or the education system that moulded them into such person.
i think both the Films 'I NOT STUPID' and ' I NOT STUPID II' potrays this fact rather well, Singaporeans put expectations without actually understanding their ability and the limits
It is sad that you have formed a negative impression of Singaporeans by simply watching 2 movies. Likewise you have made a bad impression of yourself with one single thoughtless post.
It is selfish and irresponsible to place your dreams above everything else. Life is not only about living your dreams. I'm sure 9M-'s friend, who went back to his accounting job, had other priorities at hand, be it family or financial commitments. It is not as simple as throwing everything behind to pursue your ambitions. Perhaps you don't understand this at your age.
After reading your previous posts, I gather that you are the same young Malaysian boy under a different username who got snubbed for being arrogent on another thread. He stopped posting shortly afterwards. You may have changed your identity, but your style of writing (and I'm sure that's the way you speak as well) betrays you. Perhaps any HM Aerospace instructor on this forum may want to identify this student?
I won't take offence by your insensitive remarks. In fact I shall laugh it off. After all, you're only 19 years of age and can't be expected to know much. You have a whole life ahead of you to experience. However, some senior pilots on this forum may not be so lenient towards you. I'm surprised that no one has checked in yet to give you a good dressing down.
I started this thread for Singaporeans who went their own way to an aviation career to share with us their stories, and what lessons can be learnt. So please don't turn it into a circus.
I hope you complete your course at HM Aerospace. Make use of your time there wisely to develop yourself as a person, build your character and correct your flaws. Certainly, someone with your present kind of attitude won't go very far in aviation, or anywhere else for that matter.
Enough said, back to the original topic.
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Originally Posted by Xfr8dog
I was Singaporean. Married a US Citizen and am now myself a US Citizen. Started training in 1999, spent a year as a flight instructor, flew freight in the PA31 and BE99 for about 2 years, and now have been a EMB-145 FO for 2 years. Next week I start Captain training.
Welcome to the thread. Its nice to know that a fellow Singaporean (or ex-Singaporean) has made it on his own. All the best for your command training!
I wonder if there are other self-sponsored guys who have gone on to Asian carriers like CX, Dragon, China, EVA etc?
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After reading your previous posts, I gather that you are the same young Malaysian boy under a different username who got snubbed for being arrogent on another thread.
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i've been thinking of doing a faa licence then converting as i have relatives in the us. but from a recent thread alteon is building a training center here which is great, cant wait to find out more.
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Originally Posted by demandpump
Your comments reflect badly of you as a person, your character and your maturity level.
It is not as simple as throwing everything behind to pursue your ambitions. .
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It is not as simple as throwing everything behind to pursue your ambitions. .
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ya its not as easy as putting everything aside for my dreams. sigh.
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2nd Chance?
Guys,
This might be a bit off topic in this thread. Just want to share this piece of info with SQ wannabes and those in the process of saving up for a private CPL. There is an ad in the Straits Times today recruiting for Cadet Pilots and they allow online application without asking whether you have applied before.
Could this be an indication that rules are changing and 2nd round rejects might be considered? Not counting too much on SIA though.
Cheers,
cruiser
This might be a bit off topic in this thread. Just want to share this piece of info with SQ wannabes and those in the process of saving up for a private CPL. There is an ad in the Straits Times today recruiting for Cadet Pilots and they allow online application without asking whether you have applied before.
Could this be an indication that rules are changing and 2nd round rejects might be considered? Not counting too much on SIA though.
Cheers,
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Originally Posted by cruisercruiser
Guys,
This might be a bit off topic in this thread. Just want to share this piece of info with SQ wannabes and those in the process of saving up for a private CPL. There is an ad in the Straits Times today recruiting for Cadet Pilots and they allow online application without asking whether you have applied before.
Could this be an indication that rules are changing and 2nd round rejects might be considered? Not counting too much on SIA though.
Cheers,
cruiser
This might be a bit off topic in this thread. Just want to share this piece of info with SQ wannabes and those in the process of saving up for a private CPL. There is an ad in the Straits Times today recruiting for Cadet Pilots and they allow online application without asking whether you have applied before.
Could this be an indication that rules are changing and 2nd round rejects might be considered? Not counting too much on SIA though.
Cheers,
cruiser
However let's wait for someone to post his online application experience and what happened next.
I think that post will say that as part of the first interview the candidate had to fill out a printed form containing most of what he stated in his online application, as well as answering a number of questions such as whether he has any relatives in SIA, whether he has applied before for any position or worked in SIA before, whether he has any criminal record or financial embarrassment etc etc. Nothing really different from the Word document previously available.
What is really happening is that all kinds of idiots who obviously don't qualify still apply and they are getting tired of processing such applications.
The new format allows stupid applications to be weeded out electronically.
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Dudes,
Please help me decipher this statement:
"We are seeking private candidates for employment as Cadet Pilots for those with a keen interest. Please download the SFC Employment Application Form and follow instructions stated within."
Found at http://www.sfcpl.com/think_p.htm.
Do SFC want privately funded cadets? Or are they recruiting cadets for employment after they graduate? Or are they paying for people to become cadets similar to what SIA does?? Beats me.
Please help me decipher this statement:
"We are seeking private candidates for employment as Cadet Pilots for those with a keen interest. Please download the SFC Employment Application Form and follow instructions stated within."
Found at http://www.sfcpl.com/think_p.htm.
Do SFC want privately funded cadets? Or are they recruiting cadets for employment after they graduate? Or are they paying for people to become cadets similar to what SIA does?? Beats me.
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They are looking for candidates to train as instructors.
Most likely you are Singaporean and are not yet old enough to be a cadet pilot for SQ, MI or SinCargo.
This is the usual back door strategy for people with passion but are caught out by the age requirements. If you are just using them as a means to waste time before you qualify, they will smell it. When you are done training, you start at less than $2000 as an instructor, so you really gotta have passion teaching passionless (mostly) young men in a sweaty C152.
Quite a handful have come this way since SFC started operations in the late 80s and they are now captains with various airlines. Strangely none are with SIA still (IIRC). One is with Silkair.
Most likely you are Singaporean and are not yet old enough to be a cadet pilot for SQ, MI or SinCargo.
This is the usual back door strategy for people with passion but are caught out by the age requirements. If you are just using them as a means to waste time before you qualify, they will smell it. When you are done training, you start at less than $2000 as an instructor, so you really gotta have passion teaching passionless (mostly) young men in a sweaty C152.
Quite a handful have come this way since SFC started operations in the late 80s and they are now captains with various airlines. Strangely none are with SIA still (IIRC). One is with Silkair.
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Originally Posted by Thermal Image
They are looking for candidates to train as instructors.
Most likely you are Singaporean and are not yet old enough to be a cadet pilot for SQ, MI or SinCargo.
This is the usual back door strategy for people with passion but are caught out by the age requirements. If you are just using them as a means to waste time before you qualify, they will smell it. When you are done training, you start at less than $2000 as an instructor, so you really gotta have passion teaching passionless (mostly) young men in a sweaty C152.
Quite a handful have come this way since SFC started operations in the late 80s and they are now captains with various airlines. Strangely none are with SIA still (IIRC). One is with Silkair.
Most likely you are Singaporean and are not yet old enough to be a cadet pilot for SQ, MI or SinCargo.
This is the usual back door strategy for people with passion but are caught out by the age requirements. If you are just using them as a means to waste time before you qualify, they will smell it. When you are done training, you start at less than $2000 as an instructor, so you really gotta have passion teaching passionless (mostly) young men in a sweaty C152.
Quite a handful have come this way since SFC started operations in the late 80s and they are now captains with various airlines. Strangely none are with SIA still (IIRC). One is with Silkair.
Anyone with further info on duties of these instructors? Is it similar to those of SYFC instructors?
Cheers!
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Once selected, you will join the cadets just like SIA. Go thru the ground school in seletar for 6 months, go to jandakot get your CPL/IR. Afterwhich, you will see your friends from SIA proceed to their learjet training and you will be posted back to malaysia flying acedamy to be trained as an assistant flying instructor for 2 months. Afterwhich you will continue to work for MFA and train the malaysian cadets for a further 6 months before aquiring your full QFI. Thereafter you will be posted back to SFC in seletar and start your duties.
Your duties mainly involve training cadets for their basic handling like , EOC1, S&L, Turns etc, then proceed to circuits and landings. Usually the cadets training will end at their first solo flight. You will not be doing any navigations and you will just traiin cadets till their first solo. Passion IS A MUST because you will be doing this for 5 damn years and i tell you to be an instructor is not an easy task if one is not interested at all. Another thing is if you have a mindset of hoping to go SIA after your contract ends, then this mentality will kill and torture you every single day of your life there as you will be dealing with cadets passing out batches after batches.
Hope this helps and indeed this is a good backdoor i would say for the young not the old, unless u want to be an instructor all your life 
Your duties mainly involve training cadets for their basic handling like , EOC1, S&L, Turns etc, then proceed to circuits and landings. Usually the cadets training will end at their first solo flight. You will not be doing any navigations and you will just traiin cadets till their first solo. Passion IS A MUST because you will be doing this for 5 damn years and i tell you to be an instructor is not an easy task if one is not interested at all. Another thing is if you have a mindset of hoping to go SIA after your contract ends, then this mentality will kill and torture you every single day of your life there as you will be dealing with cadets passing out batches after batches.
Hope this helps and indeed this is a good backdoor i would say for the young not the old, unless u want to be an instructor all your life
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Just managed to catch up on this long thread and am very impressed with our Singaporean chaps and gals who are actively pursuing their flying dreams.
I have been rather lucky to have gone thru the RSAF - airline route.
I'll be sure to remind my younger colleagues (Singaporean and non-Singaporean) how lucky they are to have a good and stable flying job...and should be more appreciative.
And yes...turbo-props are so much mure fun!!
I have been rather lucky to have gone thru the RSAF - airline route.
I'll be sure to remind my younger colleagues (Singaporean and non-Singaporean) how lucky they are to have a good and stable flying job...and should be more appreciative.
And yes...turbo-props are so much mure fun!!
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Originally Posted by 9M-
Once selected, you will join the cadets just like SIA. Go thru the ground school in seletar for 6 months, go to jandakot get your CPL/IR. Afterwhich, you will see your friends from SIA proceed to their learjet training and you will be posted back to malaysia flying acedamy to be trained as an assistant flying instructor for 2 months. Afterwhich you will continue to work for MFA and train the malaysian cadets for a further 6 months before aquiring your full QFI. Thereafter you will be posted back to SFC in seletar and start your duties.
Your duties mainly involve training cadets for their basic handling like , EOC1, S&L, Turns etc, then proceed to circuits and landings. Usually the cadets training will end at their first solo flight. You will not be doing any navigations and you will just traiin cadets till their first solo. Passion IS A MUST because you will be doing this for 5 damn years and i tell you to be an instructor is not an easy task if one is not interested at all. Another thing is if you have a mindset of hoping to go SIA after your contract ends, then this mentality will kill and torture you every single day of your life there as you will be dealing with cadets passing out batches after batches. Hope this helps and indeed this is a good backdoor i would say for the young not the old, unless u want to be an instructor all your life
Your duties mainly involve training cadets for their basic handling like , EOC1, S&L, Turns etc, then proceed to circuits and landings. Usually the cadets training will end at their first solo flight. You will not be doing any navigations and you will just traiin cadets till their first solo. Passion IS A MUST because you will be doing this for 5 damn years and i tell you to be an instructor is not an easy task if one is not interested at all. Another thing is if you have a mindset of hoping to go SIA after your contract ends, then this mentality will kill and torture you every single day of your life there as you will be dealing with cadets passing out batches after batches.
Hope this helps and indeed this is a good backdoor i would say for the young not the old, unless u want to be an instructor all your life Further questions if you allow:
1) Is the 5 years you mentioned a contract?
2) Does the cadet have to pay for the training he received while instructing at SFC? (I'm aware that even SIA requires its pilots to pay a sum like $36k?)
I think instructing at the PPL level is definitely more interesting, but his is definitely a good option for poor earthworms.
Hear ya!
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