DGCA CPL processing.
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For people who are in Delhi, visit regularly if your licence has not been issued within 45-60 days.
For outstation, call
Ashutosh Vasishtha,
Dy. Dir
24653104 Extn. 308
[email protected]
Helpful Guy. Tell him your file Number and that its been more than 45-60 days.
For outstation, call
Ashutosh Vasishtha,
Dy. Dir
24653104 Extn. 308
[email protected]
Helpful Guy. Tell him your file Number and that its been more than 45-60 days.
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hiiii..... new to this thread
Hey..... I have done my PPL in 87hrs from USA and the rest 120 hrs from india. Nw when i submitted my docs for issue of CPL in DGCA, they are not considering my Flying done in USA. 
According to DGCA pple, all my flying has to be done either from USA or from India.
So, they are telling me to do all 87 hrs from india again.
Does anyone knows any rule tht states the same?? Plz help.
According to DGCA pple, all my flying has to be done either from USA or from India. So, they are telling me to do all 87 hrs from india again.
Does anyone knows any rule tht states the same?? Plz help.
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Guys,
After an agonizing wait for all my documents to be proper and in order, I finally managed to submit it today at the reception. I was told that it would take 2 months for the licence to be dispatched to me. I however would appreciate a more realistic time frame within which i should receive it going by the present day backlogs and stuff.
Regards,
JoshiR
After an agonizing wait for all my documents to be proper and in order, I finally managed to submit it today at the reception. I was told that it would take 2 months for the licence to be dispatched to me. I however would appreciate a more realistic time frame within which i should receive it going by the present day backlogs and stuff.
Regards,
JoshiR
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i got observation letter from dgca that i went for recency abroad and did my 15 hours pic without undertaking any familiarisation flight after 1 year gap.....................what should i explain....and also i didnt mention no. of landings in ma log book.....also they have said that you have logged intrument 5 hour under pic column which shud have come under dual column but i have valid instrument rating and can act as PIC.....what should i do now"?
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Hey Aryan,did u give them an Indian or FAA logbook..............i mean on the FAA logbook there is a seperate column for no of t\o and landings but where on the Indian logbook are we gonna mention that?...........as per the logging of instrument.....I thought if we are instrument rated we can log it as PIC......wonder what happ there?
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What the DGCA is trying to do is enforce the Indian Rules of licensing on someone who is converting 
The reason they ask DUAL is because someone learning to fly in India has only an SPL . Since they dont hold an instrument rating they cant log PIC while doing under the hood flying or while in actual instrument conditions .
This will also apply to someone doing their recency in India . They will have to log DUAL while undergoing instrument flying as they will only hold an SPL
But since you did your recency and you are a commercial instrument rated pilot you have every right to log PIC while under the hood .
Ofcourse you need a safety pilot on board while undergoing simulated instrument flying
Reply to them that you were not undergoing instructional flying and as per rule DUAL can only be logged when undergoing instructional flying
I think the above rule is self explanatory .
Throw their own rules in their face
AIRCRAFT RULE, 1937
I do not know what an observation letter is exactly . But what they are probably going to do is subtract those 5 hours from your PIC time and then see if you still have 15 hours PIC . Otherwise they will reject your license .
@aryancool
I suggest you pack your bags and prepare to visit the DGCA office everyday unless you want to do your recency all over again in India
Also can you give the name of the DGCA officer who is handling your file ?
The reason they ask DUAL is because someone learning to fly in India has only an SPL . Since they dont hold an instrument rating they cant log PIC while doing under the hood flying or while in actual instrument conditions .
This will also apply to someone doing their recency in India . They will have to log DUAL while undergoing instrument flying as they will only hold an SPL
But since you did your recency and you are a commercial instrument rated pilot you have every right to log PIC while under the hood .
Ofcourse you need a safety pilot on board while undergoing simulated instrument flying
(5) Flight time during which a pilot is under dual instruction shall be entered in his log book as “dual” and the pilot giving instruction shall make entries in the log book of the pilot under instruction showing the nature of the instruction given
9) The holder of a Commercial, Senior Commercial or Airline Transport Pilot’s Licence may log as pilot-in-command the flight time during which he acts as pilot-in-command. He shall log as co-pilot the flight time during which he acts as co-pilot.
Throw their own rules in their face
AIRCRAFT RULE, 1937
I do not know what an observation letter is exactly . But what they are probably going to do is subtract those 5 hours from your PIC time and then see if you still have 15 hours PIC . Otherwise they will reject your license .
@aryancool
I suggest you pack your bags and prepare to visit the DGCA office everyday unless you want to do your recency all over again in India
Also can you give the name of the DGCA officer who is handling your file ?
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thnx cyril roy. V.P singh is handling my case.......i will give him the explanation but but do i do about the familiarisation flight? i just did my foreign license renewal on the sim and started doing 15 hours pic.....they asking for explanation tht why no familiarisation flight review was carried out?
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@aryancool
Looks like the DGCA is trying its best to prevent issuing license unless recency is done in India
Try calling him first if you are not from Delhi . Otherwise pay him a visit if you are from Delhi .
Tell him its not required under FAA nor is it mentioned in the flow chart or application form . I have never heard of such a requirement before .
Also tell him you did it on the SIM and that was considered sufficient by your flying school .
This is what happens when you dont have Pilots in the Pilot Licensing Department
Looks like the DGCA is trying its best to prevent issuing license unless recency is done in India
Try calling him first if you are not from Delhi . Otherwise pay him a visit if you are from Delhi .
Tell him its not required under FAA nor is it mentioned in the flow chart or application form . I have never heard of such a requirement before .
Also tell him you did it on the SIM and that was considered sufficient by your flying school .
This is what happens when you dont have Pilots in the Pilot Licensing Department
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thnx cyril roy,, i am not from delhi but its been almost 3 months now so i will go to delhi on momday and will try to meet vp singh.........also if u can tell me that my IR chk report is satisfactory against the exercises that has to be done on the aircraft so i will ask my flying school in south africa to send the form again....can i give them the scaned copies? as air courier will take sm time?
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Yes VP Singh thankfully does accept scanned copies
You can ask your flying school to send it to [email protected] and also cc it to your email address . Print it out and give it to him before going to Delhi to visit him .
Dont forget DGCA visiting time is between 4pm and 5.30 pm
You can ask your flying school to send it to [email protected] and also cc it to your email address . Print it out and give it to him before going to Delhi to visit him .
Dont forget DGCA visiting time is between 4pm and 5.30 pm
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Hmmm....
Take a printout of the document .
Sign it and Scan it .
Email it back to your flying school .
Ask them to print it out and sign it .
Rescan it and send to DGCA and CC a copy to you .
I am not sure exactly how the above method might be acceptable to VP singh but give it a try atleast .
If he demands an original copy then you will have no other option but to do as he says .
Take a printout of the document .
Sign it and Scan it .
Email it back to your flying school .
Ask them to print it out and sign it .
Rescan it and send to DGCA and CC a copy to you .
I am not sure exactly how the above method might be acceptable to VP singh but give it a try atleast .
If he demands an original copy then you will have no other option but to do as he says .
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^^
I suggest you do . Write a written reply to the observation letter explaining your stance and also quote the DGCA rules I mentioned earlier . Also include any documents that you are submitting with this letter .
Get the received stamp as proof of submission .
I suggest you do . Write a written reply to the observation letter explaining your stance and also quote the DGCA rules I mentioned earlier . Also include any documents that you are submitting with this letter .
Get the received stamp as proof of submission .