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Old 10th Jul 2023, 17:43
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Thanks so much for sharing your aptitude test experience. Is the test still gonna be taken online like a video interview as I read from previous reply? Or has it changed in any way? Appreciate it.

Originally Posted by dot0086
Not sure if you took the aptitude test yet, but if you did you probably know what it's like now. But I'll reply just for those who are looking to apply in the near future or are about to take the test. The test is run by Aon, so just search Aon [the test in question] on Google and you should be able to find some sample tests.
Monitoring Ability: it's a test with moving dots and you pretty much have to guess how many there are. This one was virtually impossible when it reaches 8+ balls and you pretty much just have to guess. Tells you if you were right or wrong every question.
Spatial Orientation: plane with a heading and a location beacon and you select where the plane is out of 9 possible spots. No instant feedback.
Complex Control: fly through a tunnel trying to get to the highest "level". You can control the speed, but it will also automatically speed up if you keep going without hitting anything. If you hit something, it will stop you briefly and continue on.
Applied Numeracy: 20 questions of pretty simple math, you have 15 minutes to do them. Calculators are allowed so if you know your formulas it's pretty simple (ie. volume, area, conversions, percentages, etc.) No instant feedback.
Multi-Tasking: 3 tasks: determine if a triangle is point left or right, mental addition/subtraction, duplicates numbers. Pretty easy if you're good at mental math. Instant feedback for wrong answers.
Reaction Speed: 2 shapes, press equal when same shape. Easiest test IMO. Instant feedback.
Work Related Behavior: the most time consuming one. I think there were about 100 questions and took me about 30 minutes to do them.

I don't know how well I did but they sent me a final interview offer within 2 hours of submitting the aptitude test.
Will update on what they ask after my interview!

Also not related, but a lot of salty, angry, and gatekeeping elitists on this forum lol
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Old 11th Jul 2023, 06:17
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Apparently, People Department worries that our Mainland counterpart might have a bit of trouble in understanding the English language so they decided to add some Chinese translation to the job ad. I need a good a laugh on this...lol https://careers.cathaypacific.com/jo...rogram-1840932

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Old 11th Jul 2023, 21:37
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Originally Posted by Hardrod
Apparently, People Department worries that our Mainland counterpart might have a bit of trouble in understanding the English language so they decided to add some Chinese translation to the job ad. I need a good a laugh on this...lol

https://careers.cathaypacific.com/jo...rogram-5851728
It's for show anyways... they need to please the mainlanders after what happened a couple months ago lol. I highly doubt anybody who can't read the job posting will get ICAO 4
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Old 14th Jul 2023, 08:32
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Originally Posted by Hardrod
Apparently, People Department worries that our Mainland counterpart might have a bit of trouble in understanding the English language so they decided to add some Chinese translation to the job ad. I need a good a laugh on this...lol
https://careers.cathaypacific.com/jo...rogram-3069724
They also changed the ICAO test to be before the interview process. So now you go through the aptitude test, then go straight for the ICAO test.
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Old 14th Jul 2023, 17:54
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Hi, anyone knows about the vaccination certificate mentioned in the initial assessment email? I suppose its covid vaccination?
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Old 15th Jul 2023, 04:21
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Originally Posted by frank1223
Hi, anyone knows about the vaccination certificate mentioned in the initial assessment email? I suppose its covid vaccination?
No it's HPV vaccination. They want to make sure you don't spread around STDs when you mess around with the guys and gals at the back.
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Old 15th Jul 2023, 17:38
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Originally Posted by d_lane92
For those who wanna to join Cathay as cadet these day , you got to ensure you have sufficient fund for at least 2 years before you receive your 1st pay check , something like $30,000 HKD .

Cathay used to send cadet to Australia for flight training with accommodation provided and subsidies, however , most of the cadets these day will be doing 9 mths ground school training in Hong Kong with zero income or subsidies, neither accommodation . For cadets from oversea they got to sort out their own place to stay !

Another 7-9 months flight training afterwards in Arizona US sounds slight better than life in Hk as flying school does provide accommodation, but NOT MEAL . Cadets are required to sort all these out on their own cost .
By the tine they finish the flight training and back to HK , employment contract may not be available for a while,

Being a Cathay cadet isn’t a privilege anymore, hopefully their hard work will pay off one day .
Do you mean the program lasts for 16-18 months? I'm under the impression that the entire training would take about a year.
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Old 16th Jul 2023, 11:39
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Originally Posted by Hardrod
Apparently, People Department worries that our Mainland counterpart might have a bit of trouble in understanding the English language so they decided to add some Chinese translation to the job ad. I need a good a laugh on this...lol https://careers.cathaypacific.com/jo...rogram-7612213
Never have I seen this **** on their website. This is the first I guess. Sad to see how once a premium airlines with western oriented culture has come down to this. Feels like they had to beg the Mainland Chinese to come rescue them to survive. I would not be surprised if they go super easy on them on the ICAO thing. an ICAO level 3 in Rachel Shieff standard could potentially be a level 5 now. Sad.
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Old 17th Jul 2023, 04:11
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Everybody knows why they post Chinese words on their website. For those who overexaggerate this or even speculate that Mainlanders will be accepted in a lower standard, YOU really need to open your mind. Living in a narrow room is sympathetic but it is not the excuse of your narrow mind.

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Old 18th Jul 2023, 03:06
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Originally Posted by BornTwoFly
Everybody knows why they post Chinese words on their website. For those who overexaggerate this or even speculate that Mainlanders will be accepted in a lower standard, YOU really need to open your mind. Living in a narrow room is sympathetic but it is not the excuse of your narrow mind.
Some people just won’t admit that the mainlanders we recruited are based on the same freaking standard. Try speak a second language first before you criticize others. The amount of negativity in this forum is stupid. If you hate PRC and CX so much, why are you still here? Go chase your dream instead of complaining here all day long. I guess you tried and got rejected every single time, so you got no choice but to stay in this “sht hole”.

To those who are considering join CX, rest assured, you’ll have a fair chance, they will not judge you base on your residency, citizenship or the fact that you are not white. Only the a-holes online would do that. Try your best and best of luck for everyone who applies.
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Old 18th Jul 2023, 04:28
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When they lower the standard on citizenship, what else would you expect? Are you working at CX HR?

And btw, I think it is also a second language to HKers, so why "Try speak a second language first before you criticize others."?
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Old 18th Jul 2023, 07:01
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Thumbs up

Originally Posted by YSOSERIOUS
Some people just won’t admit that the mainlanders we recruited are based on the same freaking standard. Try speak a second language first before you criticize others. The amount of negativity in this forum is stupid. If you hate PRC and CX so much, why are you still here? Go chase your dream instead of complaining here all day long. I guess you tried and got rejected every single time, so you got no choice but to stay in this “sht hole”.

To those who are considering join CX, rest assured, you’ll have a fair chance, they will not judge you base on your residency, citizenship or the fact that you are not white. Only the a-holes online would do that. Try your best and best of luck for everyone who applies.
Very well said!
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Old 18th Jul 2023, 07:03
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Originally Posted by CPCadetWannabe
When they lower the standard on citizenship, what else would you expect? Are you working at CX HR?

And btw, I think it is also a second language to HKers, so why "Try speak a second language first before you criticize others."?
Citizenship does not affect any of the assessments they have to go through in order to be accepted. how do you not understand that?
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Old 18th Jul 2023, 07:26
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Originally Posted by CPCadetWannabe
When they lower the standard on citizenship, what else would you expect? Are you working at CX HR?

And btw, I think it is also a second language to HKers, so why "Try speak a second language first before you criticize others."?
That's ridiculous. You are not in a 'higher standard' when you are holding a HKID. Citizenship is no longer a shield for you, that's what your parents gave it to you when you are a fertilized egg. I assume what you are afraid of is being set on the same competitive environment with your mainland counterparts? Okay, that's a big problem for you.
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Old 18th Jul 2023, 08:58
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Then please tell me where is the "traditional-Chinese" version of Cadet Pilot Program on their site? if you feel not being entitled, or being looked at with the same standard.

At least I can't / never found one.

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Old 18th Jul 2023, 11:21
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Originally Posted by BornTwoFly
Everybody knows why they post Chinese words on their website. For those who overexaggerate this or even speculate that Mainlanders will be accepted in a lower standard, YOU really need to open your mind. Living in a narrow room is sympathetic but it is not the excuse of your narrow mind.
Few Native English Speakers were rated level 3 and a few Mainland Chinese candidates with IELTS score below 5 were rated ICAO level 5 recently by the current provider which was pre-selected by Cathay. Happy to share proof with you. Just PM me.

Also, did you know that Cathay reconfigured the Cut-e aptitude test from the back-end to make it easier? Few friends of mine work in Aon solution, meaning they have first hand information. Happy to introduce them to you as well.
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Old 18th Jul 2023, 11:56
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ICAO tests speaking only and I don't think company change the rules just for mainlanders. Take the strong demand in people into consideration. Currently both Mainlanders and HKers are treated and tested in the same way, isn't it?
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Originally Posted by CPCadetWannabe
Then please tell me where is the "traditional-Chinese" version of Cadet Pilot Program on their site? if you feel not being entitled, or being looked at with the same standard.

At least I can't / never found one.
Let me tell you the story. The company propagated their CPP in their wechat public account and that's the reason why they add simplified Chinese onto the website. However, all the following procedures are English only.
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Old 18th Jul 2023, 12:12
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They had to Whitsunday.
Canada once again is paving ways for Hongkies for PR throngs of people I know are plotting to leave. 1 year of work then you get a PR. The best deal ever. Even for the HK Government, there is absolutely nothing they can do about it.

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yeah, just move to canada if it's so ****ty here. no need to stay and being paranoid about mainlanders ruining this place. good luck.

If you are talking about lowering the bar in ICAO, for a native speaker to get 3, that means they have no f idea what is aviation all about. It's not the assessor's job to help you prepare.

And for someone to get 5 ICAO with a IELTS lower than 5, just maybe, their listening and speaking are 7, then writing and speaking are 3. Since ICAO is only about speaking and listening, then the score would be higher. And maybe they got that IELTS test years ago.

Me personally got a 5 in ICAO and only 104 in TOEFL 6 years ago. But I got perfect score in TOEFL for listening and speaking, and lower score for reading and writing.

I don't think the bar is lowered in any way to accommadate anyone. Some of my friends who have deep aviation background still got a 3 in ICAO.

And about the "fact" that they changed the cut-e test, isn't that test for every single new joiner? not just for mainland cadidates right? And I believe they didn't add Chinese translation in there right?

You are just refusing to admit that there are talented people from mainland, period.

PS, CPCadetWannabe, what I said about bilingual was not talking about HKers like you, it was just about some trash-talking haters.
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