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Vero...That's too bad. If I was on an airplane and knew the pilot had thousands of hours flying in the Canadian arctic in Metro's I'd feel pretty good. The real interesting part of flying Metro's or other airplanes in harsh conditions is that the experience is the best teacher. There is no substitute for that and CX knows that and for those who think they can circumvent that type of flying and get onto a transport category airplane you are mistaken. The kids who don't understand the importance of getting the exam first and then the lesson after will be missing out on the most important and fun part of any aviation on the job training. There is just no way CX will be able to move zero or low time pilots into flying positions on the heavy metal with any degree of long-term safety. This has been tried by Asian airlines for years and they have the worst safety records outside of Africa and Russia (they were only able to change this when they brought back experienced Western pilots). CX does understand this and when they do have a real shortage of co-pilots as thier Captains retire they will bring back direct entry candidates again who have thousands of jet hours. I doubt they would put their planes and reputation in the hands of a pilot who hasn't Touched the controls of an airplane in years where the only flying they did do before that was at a flight school in single engine Tobago's. Common guys...think this through. Your going into fill an immediate need as cheap labor only. They'd put flight attendants in that position if they could but they earn too much. The likelyhood of real advancement without real flight time in aviation is real low. Sorry to rain on people's parade but that's the way I see it. CX doesent really intend to move you into flying positions and they don't exactly have a great reputation of fulfilling promises either. They will do whats in their best interest not yours.
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Guys,
Everyone has to start somewhere.
In this weird world at most of airlines if you dont know someone they wont employ you. They wont give you a chance to show how much you are prepared for an interview. If you are a son of a captain or you know someone from the management than the doors opening...
How and where should these guys build jet hours???
Every airlines wants F/O-s with thousand of jet hours. Preferred if these hours on the type what the airline use.
These guys just wants to realize their dreams. its not a sin. Everyone here just would like to fly...
This is a vicious circle, they need only experienced pilots on jets....but how should them fly on jets if nobody give a chance?
I think nobody was born with 5000 hours on jet.
Let's fly and never give up your dreams!
Everyone has to start somewhere.
In this weird world at most of airlines if you dont know someone they wont employ you. They wont give you a chance to show how much you are prepared for an interview. If you are a son of a captain or you know someone from the management than the doors opening...
How and where should these guys build jet hours???
Every airlines wants F/O-s with thousand of jet hours. Preferred if these hours on the type what the airline use.
These guys just wants to realize their dreams. its not a sin. Everyone here just would like to fly...
This is a vicious circle, they need only experienced pilots on jets....but how should them fly on jets if nobody give a chance?
I think nobody was born with 5000 hours on jet.
Let's fly and never give up your dreams!
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@Lucky87... You can say I am boosting my self esteem by saying the pay is not so good. It might work out for single guys in their early twenties but not for guys like me who has to take care of things when you are reaching the late twenties.
I am not against the cadetship program. CX is one of the only airlines currently in the world that has a program for people from all around the world. And its a great platform and really appreciate the opportunity that CX gives to a lot of people every year. You would learn a lot from the program as well. Everything has pros and cons. For me, on the long run CX's program has more cons then pros for me. But it was a learning experience for sure.
It is an individual choice for sure. Some might like it some might not. At the end of the day everyone wants to be up front in that cockpit be it a shiny jet or a single engine piston. That is what we as pilots want rather than to sit on the ground.
I am not against the cadetship program. CX is one of the only airlines currently in the world that has a program for people from all around the world. And its a great platform and really appreciate the opportunity that CX gives to a lot of people every year. You would learn a lot from the program as well. Everything has pros and cons. For me, on the long run CX's program has more cons then pros for me. But it was a learning experience for sure.
It is an individual choice for sure. Some might like it some might not. At the end of the day everyone wants to be up front in that cockpit be it a shiny jet or a single engine piston. That is what we as pilots want rather than to sit on the ground.
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that's alright jack, I was just being a cock, had a crap day... hope no offence was taken 
Btw, I received an email last night and I've been shortlisted for the 2nd stage interview.
CX Application for 61weeks course - Jan 2012 (i have 0 flight hours)
1st stage Interview -16 April (in Sydney)
1st stage Results - 22 May
Btw, I received an email last night and I've been shortlisted for the 2nd stage interview.
CX Application for 61weeks course - Jan 2012 (i have 0 flight hours)
1st stage Interview -16 April (in Sydney)
1st stage Results - 22 May
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congrats on passing your stage 1!
please keep us posted!
i have 0 flight hours as well, how did you study for your JKI test? did you dig deeper and did you find the MC's tricky? as well how did you do you the reasoning? did you find it relatively easy?
please keep us posted!
i have 0 flight hours as well, how did you study for your JKI test? did you dig deeper and did you find the MC's tricky? as well how did you do you the reasoning? did you find it relatively easy?
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thanks doublexhalin, more than happy to keep wannabes like us updated, I got heaps of help on this forum as well!
to answer your questions:
how did you study for your JKI test?
like how i would study for anything else.. but i also got myself the bob tait VFR BAK which was really good.
did you dig deeper and did you find the MC's tricky?
MC was pretty straight forward if you studied.
as well how did you do you the reasoning?
horrible. raven's matrix was a pain in the asss to do.
did you find it relatively easy?
it was ok, wont say it was easy...
to answer your questions:
how did you study for your JKI test?
like how i would study for anything else.. but i also got myself the bob tait VFR BAK which was really good.
did you dig deeper and did you find the MC's tricky?
MC was pretty straight forward if you studied.
as well how did you do you the reasoning?
horrible. raven's matrix was a pain in the asss to do.
did you find it relatively easy?
it was ok, wont say it was easy...
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HK ID
I have read through this thread but couldn't find any information regarding the different kinds of HK IDs that are accepted by Cathay.
I do not have an HK ID yet but am currently in the process of the application. I was not born in Hong Kong but am a child of a parent that was. From the information that I have gathered, I will most likely be getting an HK ID with 1 star. Would Cathay accept applications with 1 star or is it only for 3 star HK ID holders?
Thanks,
Joe
I do not have an HK ID yet but am currently in the process of the application. I was not born in Hong Kong but am a child of a parent that was. From the information that I have gathered, I will most likely be getting an HK ID with 1 star. Would Cathay accept applications with 1 star or is it only for 3 star HK ID holders?
Thanks,
Joe
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Flypaul, and jet pilots are not born with 250 hours of Tobago time either. I had almost 3000 hours of muti time before I touched a jet and it was still a challenge! I'm only trying to open peoples eyes to the fact that the longest distance between two points is a short cut. CX SO position is not any time, either jet or propeller. Seriously, you'd be better off instructing for a few years then moving into a commuter airline. CX is not offeri g anyone a flying job...sorry.
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Hi lucky86,
Congrats on passing Stage 1!
While you were waiting for your results, did CX call you in for the ICAO English Test?
I did my Stage 1 about a week ago. I am still waiting for results
One of the candidates (who resides in HK) got a call do do his ICAO test. however, there was no call for me to do the ICAO Test. Perhaps that has to do with the fact that I reside in Toronto and it may be grouped together with Stage 2? (which I hope I will make it to)
Looks like it does take quite some time from Stage 1 to Stage 2.
As they say, no news is good news. (I haven't got any rejection emails yet)
Best of Luck in Stage 2!!
Congrats on passing Stage 1!
While you were waiting for your results, did CX call you in for the ICAO English Test?
I did my Stage 1 about a week ago. I am still waiting for results
One of the candidates (who resides in HK) got a call do do his ICAO test. however, there was no call for me to do the ICAO Test. Perhaps that has to do with the fact that I reside in Toronto and it may be grouped together with Stage 2? (which I hope I will make it to)
Looks like it does take quite some time from Stage 1 to Stage 2.
As they say, no news is good news. (I haven't got any rejection emails yet)
Best of Luck in Stage 2!!
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Robertson31,
I absolutelly agree with you. It was not against you. i just outlined my opinion.
I know lot of guys who had only 250 hours CPL time and 10 hours on ME and they got the F/O seat....this is the life.....someone musts to walk towards his dream on a long way and someone has shortest way...
wish the best
I absolutelly agree with you. It was not against you. i just outlined my opinion.
I know lot of guys who had only 250 hours CPL time and 10 hours on ME and they got the F/O seat....this is the life.....someone musts to walk towards his dream on a long way and someone has shortest way...
wish the best
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Flypaul...it's all good. I'm just glad I'm not flying as a passenger on that plane
By the way, I'm just giving my opinion on here not preaching religion. Some will agree, others won't and many others still will have very different views. What's important is for all regardless of age try and listen to everyone before making a choice...that's what CRM has tought us! I'm also a former flight instructor and I do get passionate about younger pilots on a good career path trying to take a short cut and putting too much faith in any one airline or employer. this is perhaps more a NA attitude which is very different in other parts of the world I understand.
By the way, I'm just giving my opinion on here not preaching religion. Some will agree, others won't and many others still will have very different views. What's important is for all regardless of age try and listen to everyone before making a choice...that's what CRM has tought us! I'm also a former flight instructor and I do get passionate about younger pilots on a good career path trying to take a short cut and putting too much faith in any one airline or employer. this is perhaps more a NA attitude which is very different in other parts of the world I understand.
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