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Old 19th Jan 2012, 03:08
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My opinions are just opinions, thats all. I was interested in the program but thoroughly reading through these posts and problems its something that I wouldnt do... but - there are kids out there that think this is their calling. all i am trying to say is, lets not destroy a kids dream - he wants CX do it. Who are we to make decisions for others. We can give good advice, and help point people in the right direction - as for me, I am sticking with trying to get hired with the regionals. I'll work my butt of here in the states get my experience, actually get to fly and move from there! Happy flying guys, chinabeached loveee you <3 lol relax brother
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Old 19th Jan 2012, 08:55
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Stage 2 interview, HK, first week of February! Any takers??
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Old 19th Jan 2012, 11:48
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CX made a $14 BILLION profit in 2010. I wouldn't say CX have a problem with money. CX is NOT Continental/UA.
Record profits and yet our T&C's are deteriorating. To which you seem happy to perpetuate.
Companies all over the world make billions in profit and their employees seldom get rewarded from it. It's a part of life. Not fair, but it is.
At least the guy who builds up his own hours will HAVE hours. As an S/O your P2X hours count for nothing.
I know, but at least you are paid a hell of a lot more to fly for a commercial airline+already have experience in big jets. Not 'official,' but you have it.

Finally, what airlines are going to treat their pilots much better? Emirates work their pilots like dogs, QANTAS want to hire on cheaper wages (far cheaper than CX) etc so this is why the Cathay program looks so appealing.
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Old 19th Jan 2012, 12:27
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Ah finally Truss, you reveal who you are.

A youngster who knows nothing about the airline industry other than the little bits of glorified CX information handed down from the ex chief pilot of the golden era?

Or perhaps judging from your last post.

Someone who has knowledge of the competitions terms and conditions even though you would not qualify for the job with them (EK). Someone who knows more about the industry recruitment than you are letting on. If you really are working for CX, this truly is pathetic.
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Old 19th Jan 2012, 14:29
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Stage 2 Interview

I am currently preparing for the Stage 2 interview in early Feb. Anyone with HELPFUL information please PM me.
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Old 19th Jan 2012, 14:57
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I am currently preparing for the Stage 2 interview in early Feb. Anyone with HELPFUL information please PM me.

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Hey,

First of all best of luck with your Stage 2 interview.

Secondly I think rather then ask to be spoon fed the information by a private PM you should try the obvious thing... read the huge thread you have posted in... your answer is there!

I've recently posted my Stage 1 experience, well no use to you but others have posted their experience of Stage 2 and what to expect!

I find it quite saddening to have put in all the effort to study for ALL the stages for CX and to just fail on Stage 1 to then see someone ask for the information to be handed over without even demonstrating the effort you put into your Stage 2 preparations.
I have folderS of information about CX, HK and practice papers to study.

Sorry to have posted something that you may just find quite irrelevent... but there are many users in this forum who would be more then happy to help you and give you advice... Just show them that you are putting in the effort on your side. Dont just ask "stage 2 help", explain the research you have done and ask for clarification..

Once again, best of luck and I hope you succeed.
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Old 19th Jan 2012, 22:05
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Does somebody knows here how long your application is 'valid'? So I have to fill in a new application or so..?

Appreciate it.
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Old 19th Jan 2012, 23:55
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But I thought money wasn't everything?
Money isn't everything. But if you have 2 options, of which you acquire the same credentials, you're obviously going to go with the one that is of better value.

That's not contradicting, it's common sense.

BTW I know information about EK as I had a contact who flew for them for a couple of years as both a pilot for Emirates and the UAE private 777. He said the hours they made him work were too stressful (even though the pay was good) and as such he left for Turkish Airlines last year. Apparently they are a good airline as they are less stressful with hours and operate new aircraft.
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Old 20th Jan 2012, 16:04
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Anyone with stage 2 mid feb?pm me
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Old 20th Jan 2012, 16:58
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If you spent the time wasted arguing on here studying then I am sure your chances at passing will be greater, it's common sense.

Tupps

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Old 20th Jan 2012, 22:56
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According to our recruiting schedule you will now be competing with Pakistanis!

I keep hearing from the kids that "this offer is the new reality/norm".

Here's a hint: You don't fish for pilots in Pakistan if you are offering "the norm".

Just keep signing up guys, don't listen to us with 10+years.
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Old 23rd Jan 2012, 02:05
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Rumour Confirmed - No more Internatinal Cadets with less than 250 hours!

I can now confirm that CX is not allowed to hire International Cadets with less than 250 hours any more.
This limitation has been re-imposed by the Hong Kong Immigration Department.

Applicants that has passed Stage 1 of the interview process or has been invited to Stage 1, will not be affected.

Regards
PP

P.S. Kung Hei Fat Choy!!
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Old 23rd Jan 2012, 15:29
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Hi guys,

first i have to say you can find a lot of good information between the arguments in this thread about the interview and i want to say thanks to the people who took the time to wrtie the reports and facts.

I understand that both sides have valid points to agree or disagree with the new CX SO terms and conditions. Still, for my personal situation CX remains a good option so i want to ask some questions regarding the application.

Currently i hold my FAA CPL/IR license and almost finished my JAA ATPLs. Can i apply before i finish my ATPLs and state the expected date of finishing my ATPLs and CPL/IR conversion in the application?

The other thing is my school education was done in Germany and my school education ist not comparable at all with the english or american system. How can i enter it? Just in the german form and translated?

Take care people!
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 03:56
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Min hours

Why would the gov't care how many hours one has when they go to Australia for training? Wouldn't it only matter how many hours they have when they finish and go to Hong Kong to work? I would think people with close to 150+ hours will be surpassed 250 that when finished. Seems odd they would change the minimum for eligibility into the programme itself.
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 08:29
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Why would the gov't care how many hours one has when they go to Australia for training? Wouldn't it only matter how many hours they have when they finish and go to Hong Kong to work? I would think people with close to 150+ hours will be surpassed 250 that when finished. Seems odd they would change the minimum for eligibility into the programme itself.
The rule has to do with hiring "Skilled" or "Unskilled" labourers by a Hong Kong company.
The Hong Kong Immigration Department (IMMD) has a rule that states (in laymen's terms):

If a company wants to hire a "skilled" labourer, they must first search in Hong Kong, but if no such skilled worker can be found in Hong Kong, then they are allowed to hire from abroad.
If a company wants to hire an "unskilled" labourer, then they can ONLY hire a permanent Hong Kong resident (since they are going to have to train the person anyway).


Now recently the IMMD have stated that any pilot with less than 250 hours is "unskilled" and can therefore only be hired if he/she is a permanent Hong Kong resident.

This requirement is looked at when the person is hired by the company, i.e. BEFORE going to Adelaide.

So, in summary, the entry requirements has not been changed by CX, but by the Government of Hong Kong. (Actually, CX is still trying to get this rule changed back so that anyone can join, but it is unlikely that the IMMD will change their minds).

Hope this makes it clear.
Regards
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 08:39
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Could anyone explain for me the difference of O days and G days?
They are mentioned every now and then
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 09:44
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Now recently the IMMD have stated that any pilot with less than 250 hours is "unskilled" and can therefore only be hired if he/she is a permanent Hong Kong resident.
Sh!t... they've also slightly changed the CX website. now the 1st option for the S/O entry programme says "Preference for this programme will be given to HKID holders" ....



all right...
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 11:28
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Sh!t... they've also slightly changed the CX website. now the 1st option for the S/O entry programme says "Preference for this programme will be given to HKID holders" ....



all right...
That is what it used to be and how it should stay!!
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 12:21
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well let's take it positively, i won't be one of the iKIDS! ahahah
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 12:43
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Blessing in disguise for anyone to ignorant to have worked it out for themselves.
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