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Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme

Old 24th Feb 2011, 07:14
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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Africa

Has anyone received a call or email to go for a CX interview from the Africa region?
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Old 24th Feb 2011, 08:57
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carpet weaver, they will send an email inviting you first.

After you have confirmed your receipt and availability, they will send you another email detailing the interview day i.e JKI booklet and what tests are involved.


goodluck
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Old 24th Feb 2011, 12:22
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...I have to disagree on the reasoning test being easy.
I totally agree, although with the right practice you can ace them. Contact me via PM for more details

accept no substitutes!!

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Old 24th Feb 2011, 15:32
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Anyone here going for the CX interview in SIN on 23rd March 2011?
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Old 24th Feb 2011, 21:03
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Raven's Advanced Progressive Matrices??

Hey does anyone know where I can buy the Ravens APM book?
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Old 25th Feb 2011, 00:30
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Eyes open

Hi All. I know it is exciting to look forward to a airline job. I know as it was for me and still is for me now. I have been with Cathay since 1998 and love my job. I just think you should not ignore this package you are being offered. Be very aware that if you come here with no housing allowance you will not be able to afford to live here. It is one thing being in a low paid job in your own country, and a completely other thing to be in a low paid job in some one else's country. In Hong Kong most foreigners have quite well paid jobs and these are the people you will be socialising with. You will just be miserable and resentful when you find out too late that you can't afford to buy your kids milk in the supermarket. Don't think about staff travel as you won't be able to afford it. Small 3 bedroom flat at the moment in DB about 15 to 25000 per month. Not much left on a 32000 per month income. And for those that have been told no school allowance as local schools are free. First, classes are in Cantonese, and second if you were going to send your kids through the public school system, why would you not do it in your own country.
You are being misled in the interview. By the time you find this out, if you came with a family, they wont be here as you will not be able to support them in Hong Kong. I have two children, wife and a nice garden apartment. I live in a style that I would expect to live in my own country given the job I have. If I was living a as a pauper and not around my family and friends at the same time, then I could not live as an ex-pat.
I've taken the time to post this as you need to know the facts. If you have a job in aviation, do not leave it for this one. If you are unemployed at the moment with little or no prospects of employment in your country then ok. Hell, I even got housing paid for when I was working in PNG nearly 20 years ago.
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Old 25th Feb 2011, 01:39
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If you went to live in Discovery Bay in your first year as an SO you would be absolutely nuts, what an expensive place to live. What about Lantau island? You can get a reasonably sized 2 bedroom flat for 10,000 a month at the upper range. Share that with another cadet and you're fine.

If you're single with no dependents then the cadet program is incredible. Remember you get paid for duty flight hours as well, and that the new salary pay rise is really quite good for SOs.
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Old 25th Feb 2011, 04:40
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What about Lantau island
Sorry to burst your bubble, but "expat" grade apartments aren't HKD10K any more. Try HKD15K+.

Then you'd need a car, public transport (when you want to go to work) is really not that reliable unless you WANT to add an hours' grace...

Car licence HKD5500/year.
Insurance (liability only) HKD1500/year.
Petrol HKD14+/Litre
Lantau permit HKD?
Parking HKD1600/month
Car P.O.S. HKD20K - Decent shape HKD60K+

Share that with another cadet and you're fine
Crash-padding working for CX? Living the dream. Remember Colgan Air and KBUF.

Think carefully.
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Old 25th Feb 2011, 09:17
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Hi everyone,

I'm new to this forum. Like everyone else, I have a dream of being a pilot. Dream, but not unreachable. I took my first attempt 5 years ago (in 2005) and failed miserably. I guess I was categorized as a 'passing phase', a commonly found wannabe, which i wont argue because that was probably true.

But after working for 5 years in another totally unrelated industry and numerous other life experiences, i still feel my love for aviation and decide to have a second shot at it. I just applied 2 weeks ago, before the Chinese New Year holidays, any one else here have applied around this time?

I've been reading the first 20 pages of this thread.. there's so much useful information here! Anyhow, does anyone know if the selection process have changed since this thread began in 2009?

I've a some questions:

1) is the holding period still present? (the CP32-5 classes waiting up to 12 months before having first flight and CP36 up to 6 months)

2) i notice there's a session going on right now, does anyone know when abouts the next intake would be?

Thanks!
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Old 25th Feb 2011, 09:32
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It is nice to inform us Cadets and future SOs about the housing and funding situation in Hong Kong. I believe it is all a matter of how one approaches life in Hong Kong, and how one deals with the given circumstances.
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Old 25th Feb 2011, 11:22
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Stage 2 on March 23

Anyone for Stage 2 on Mar23 in HK?
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Old 25th Feb 2011, 11:33
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not yet, but could be as I had my Stage 1 on Feb 14th. Hope I hear back from then soon When was ur Stage 1 and how long did u wait for Stage 2?
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Old 25th Feb 2011, 11:41
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Stage 1: Feb1, ICAO exam; Feb 17.. Are you finished with your ICAO exam?
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Old 25th Feb 2011, 13:47
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5 Years as S/O??

1st: I normally don't even read these forums anymore. It is way too negative.

2nd: To all the current CX pilots delibarately shooting down the dreams of potential flyers because they only worry about their own jobs: shame on you!! If you cannot state facts in a professional manner and hate CX so much, then do us all a favour; leave.

That said, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it seems like CX has just decided to cut the S/O to F/O upgrades for this year by half!
This stems from the new rules coming into play allowing them to crew long haul flights with two S/Os.
For someone like me, that's been around 3 years, and was hoping to upgrade inside 4 years; it now looks like closer to 5 years as a S/O, with no further pay rise till upgrading!

I know that a lot of new joiners will see this as a mere blip in their career, but I do beleive that this should be weighed as a factor when making a decision to join CX. I am now reluctantly accepting the fact that it will take more than 13 years to become a captain (beleive me, that sucks!)

As for the new contract on offer for International Cadetts - I will only say this:
If you are young (<24) and single, you can possibly consider it. Get in, get to F/O and get out. (You can then restart in a company in your home country at around age 30, which is still possible to do)
If you are married or coming to HKG with a partner: forget it, this contract is just not for you.

I apologise if I am breaking my own rules and being too negative here, but I am trying to keep emotion out of it and provide facts only.

If anyone needs ANY information about moving to HKG, cost of living, available housing, prices, etc; please PM me, I will provide as much help as possible.

Regards
PP
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Old 25th Feb 2011, 16:47
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so 16 days, cant wait!

no whats the ICAO exam about?
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Old 25th Feb 2011, 18:20
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did u get a call or mail from cathay?
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Old 25th Feb 2011, 19:47
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Well 5 minutes of research yielded the following 4 properties in South Lantau

http://www.expatflats.com/property-pui-o-lo-uk-$6000-2215-2.html
http://www.expatflats.com/property-tong-fuk-2/f-plus-roof-$6k-2121-2.html
http://www.expatflats.com/property-mui-wo-scenic-crest-terrace-$5500-2225-2.html
http://www.expatflats.com/property-mui-wo-center-$10k-2233-2.html

The top 3 are all 2 bedrooms and about $6000 a month. This took 5 minutes, I'm sure with more time you could find better properties.

You seriously don't need a car, even in Lantau, take a minibus!

I honestly think that when you guys are setting your standards for coming to Hong Kong, they are not typical of what should be expected as a SO. We don't expect to have houses with gardens and nights out in Wan Chai. We expect to have to scrape by at first, and when using sensible figures and sources to calculate monthly expenditures, there's quite a lot of room to play with before exhausting that month's salary.

Go ahead and do the calculations yourself, take one of those $6k properties, although they're two bedrooms, assume you're renting it by yourself, and see how much cash you have left over that month. Don't play silly buggers and throw in ridiculous expenses like cars. Even if you give yourself insanely high allowances for food, utilities and others, I doubt you can exceed that month's budget.
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Old 26th Feb 2011, 01:29
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We don't expect to have houses with gardens and nights out in Wan Chai. We expect to have to scrape by
Your expectations will be met - and then some. For years and years and years...
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Old 26th Feb 2011, 02:41
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Thumbs down What price integrity?

The breathless rush to take up these cadet positions is quite frankly sad to see

sunytorytimo, have you ever been to Hong Kong? Your statements justifying being poor, no nights out etc etc are ridiculous in the extreme. What are you planning on doing in your tiny little flat during your 20 days off a month...? And by the way, Disco Bay IS on Lantau Island. If you want to prostitute yourself then I'll make a little wager with you and any other cadet here....in less than 3 years, when you are still broke, no pay rise, can't go out, can't travel and staring down the barrel of at least another 2 years in the back you'll all be whinging like a windmill in a Typhoon And not one of us will want to hear it. Of course, there is then the small matter of your JFO upgrade after 5+ years in the jumpseat, because if you don't pass that, your out and you'll soon find your P2X rating about at useful as soggy loo paper.

Pitotprobe......
To all the current CX pilots delibarately shooting down the dreams of potential flyers because they only worry about their own jobs: shame on you!! If you cannot state facts in a professional manner and hate CX so much, then do us all a favour; leave.
You make this comment and then go on to moan about 5 years as an SO? Are you not doing the exact same thing? I've read this forum and what I can see is current pilots advising, using facts, about what these cadets can expect when they get here and perhaps opening their eyes and, dare I say it, even helping some make an informed decision. You offer nothing and if you think its a case of "shooting down dreams" don't you think CX is doing that to you, and most definately to the cadets....? Good lord man, get a grip.

The wager stands.
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Old 26th Feb 2011, 03:17
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Suntory



Your third search (Scenic Crest) is on the commercial wharf, 24/7 unloading for the "Wellcome" (spelled correctly) supermarket directly opposite, the correctional services wharf (prisoner transfer for the nearby gaol) and within earshot of the cement factory - just out of view. Did I mention the VERY popular "China Bear" pub and it's noisy clientele (unaffordable on an S/O salary BTW) across the way?

Great choice. You'll last a month, then spend 11 months trying to wriggle out of 24 month lease...
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