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Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme

Old 1st Mar 2011, 22:57
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if no flight experience, then they'd probably ask you questions from the JKI booklet and probably anything upto a BAK level - i had about 20 hours when i applied, so i was asked questions upto a BAK level. But tbh, if you only read from the JKI booklet then you can leave yourself quite exposed as they want to see you have done extra reading rather than just what they have given you.

There is so much material you could possibly tackle, but always start with the basics and progress from there, don't try and jump a few levels missing the basic foundations.

if you'd like an idea on material, maybe visit or talk to a flying school and see what they use textbook wise to train students from scratch to CPL, or even go into an aviation store and ask them what they'd recommend.

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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 01:42
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Good day guys,

Anyone heading to HK for stage 2 on the 14th - 15th of March?

I've got a question, when they say "Aviation Math Test", what kind of question will I be expecting? I've gone through all pages in this forum but no avail. Any idea?
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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 02:25
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Once clean (and out of the buffet), ask for the clipboard and start doing the arithmetic of modern aviation. After youíve added together all the individual leg segments to the departure time, you should be presented with an expected arrival time. Once complete, youíre once again free to relax and enjoy the tranquility of the modern flight deck.
OR just add the flight time to the take off time. But that would be too much common sense at this stage?

After the takeoff has been completed, itís not unusual to hear the DEFO ask for flaps up during a turn while accelerating through the clean speed. As a result, expect either strong buffeting or a strong reprimand. The latter is more enjoyable, rest assured.
Don't you mean Flaps 5 Speed?

Aviation Maths, after all the hard study at Uni to get a Maths degree, is simply adding, subtracting, and multiplying. Sorry to waste your time!
 
Old 2nd Mar 2011, 02:32
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Aviation Maths, after all the hard study at Uni to get a Maths degree, is simply adding, subtracting, and multiplying. Sorry to waste your time!
Does this includes interpreting graphs and charts?
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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 05:03
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Does Cathay take Indian Pilots

Does Cathay take Indian Pilots?
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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 06:09
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Life as an SO

I'm usually the first to slap down any fool who ridicules the cadet programme. However that was so well-written and funny that I must applaud you for writting it AKOTA

By the way, 10K is not a rumour.

HK$45K a month (£4'090/$5770) for doing everything AKOTA said.

Best deal in the world.

Oh to be an SO again.
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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 06:48
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Brilliant reading AKOTA
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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 06:54
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oh, so it's confirmed there will be HK$10,000 extra per month?
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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 10:42
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Correct it HAS been confirmed as 10K a month Housing Allowance. But all new joiners please keep in mind this amount is 1/7th the amount of H.A. that a second officer has access to after 2 years in company under the previous system. You have managed to force them to give you something due to your absence at the job offer phase. If you continue your leverage, through job offer refusal, the offer will improve! Something to consider
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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 11:03
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To all the halfwits that took the iso offer before the "adjustment" - shame on you. I'm not a betting man but I'll wager you'll ride the backs of the AOA members all your unsatisfying, unfulfilled tenure here.

To those that have stayed away - and continue to do so - good on you. Your actions (and your actions alone) have forced the company to increase the T&C.
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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 11:04
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By confirmed, do you mean signed in writing on cadet contracts? Or one of the many rumours that are going around..

I sincerely hope it's the former..
 
Old 2nd Mar 2011, 14:29
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wow, hk govt giving everyone hk$6000 cash.. So good..
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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 21:03
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If these cadets, just wait and not take the job for another 6 month I will guarantee you that CX will add another $10,000 on top of itÖ.they are trying to see how many will take the job with only $10,000. Business 101 start low and work your way up base on supply and demandÖ.but these Cadets are too blind to see it.
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Old 3rd Mar 2011, 03:55
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wow, hk govt giving everyone hk$6000 cash.. So good..
No they arenít. To receive the tax rebate you must be a permanent resident, i.e. youíve lived here more than seven years and applied for and received permanent residency or you were born here. As most Icadís werenít born in HK, they wonít qualify for the one off rebate.

Regarding the housing assistance promised by the company, it isnít confirmed until it is in a signed contract. Again ask the instructors in Adelaide what the company promised them. They too thought it was a confirmed deal only to have the company renege on it.
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Old 3rd Mar 2011, 04:20
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I'm usually the first to slap down any fool
As usual, wanting to either punch colleagues in the face (previous posts) but this time reverts to a more masculine slap.

Fool: "A silly or stupid person who lacks judgement or sense" (first online dictionary that came up with a hit...)

Oh to be an SO again.
"Again"? Since when were you EVER an SO?? You came to CX as DEFO. We're not all as stupid as you look.

So to allow others to (again) know this "fool's" platform (information from previous posts):

1. a guy who went from flying school to 737 because daddy paid for the endorsement and training, then CX as DEFO on the 74F;
2. a guy who advocates the lowered and lowering conditions borne by the cadets in order to allow one group of CX pilots to suffer financial loss so (as admitted in previous posts) as he sees it, so he doesn't have to. After all, someone has to take the hit and it's better it's someone else rather than yourself (again, just quoting previous posts);
3. a guy who is a member of the AoA advocating for the division of rights and financial reward of some for his own personal gain;
4. a guy who offers cadets words of wisdom from how, what and when to even the role of female pilots at CX;
5. a guy who is so busy feathering his own nest at the expense of others (own admission) that can't wait to throw pure and utter abuse on this forum to anyone with a differing opinion;
6. a guy who admitted to having to change his username in case others discovered who he was and hence retribution due previous (work) history.

Betpump5:
I will agree with one thing though- My housing allowance as a DEFO makes it all worth it
and yet you push so vehemently for more cadets to take the job and lower the general T's & C's, again, just so you can be comfortable.

iCadets: this is the type of person you are supporting and keeping in the lifestyle he believes he deserves, all at your expense. As he admits, without the CX housing allowance, the job isn't worth it.

People like this are the lowest of the low. Hiding behind an AOA membership yet advocating and pushing for the lesser T & C's of your colleagues.

The iCadet scheme is nothing but the CHEAPEST way to fill a seat. Full stop. No elitist group of the best of the best. More like the naive of the naive. Nearly all of those (except some "fools") see it as a downward spiral in the T's & C's of a once great airline. It is a C-scale movement as defined by the AOA which good 'ole betpump here is a card waving member of, apparently. It is a decline of entry level standards in the extreme and a bastardisation of the original intent of the entire cadet scheme, and all under the cheap guise of racial equality and non-discrimination to lower costs and drive up personal gain (profit bonuses) and share the price.

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Old 3rd Mar 2011, 04:31
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you keep on bringing up the same old BS. Lets get something straight. Mr and Miss young CPP Cadet don't give 2 sh!ts about you, me or the T&Cs of the more mature generation at Cathay. They don't know us so hence will not care that us at CX have seen our pockets being emptied over the years - and why should they?

45'000 HKD (£4000) per month for doing bugger all for 4 years! Who the F wouldn't take that deal??? Telling these little lovlies that they'll be living in a shoebox won't matter to them. Change the record fool.

You are giving these poor cadets earache..And giving me heartaburn.
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Old 3rd Mar 2011, 04:42
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Is this comment still from your time and experience as an SO? HA! Too funny!!

As an astute financial advisor you have also taken into account cost of living, tax, capacity to rent or buy in the future, the potential financial status upon retirement.......all been said before on this thread.

What do you care? Daddy paid for your career and you have a housing allowance that you believe makes the job (quote).

An earache? Only if you continue to want to bitch slap everyone opposing your point of view (or uncover the truths about you, your motives and history)!

iCadets, here is your representative!!!!

(PS: Saw your PM "Word of Advice". Not sure if a threat or other.... don't care. It was deleted and not read. I've done my yards in this industry and now toward the end as a TRE/I on the 777. I won't waste my time with a person advocating lowering the bar in both experience and financial reward for our industry and passion while riding on the naivety of others so as to feather one's own nest).
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Old 3rd Mar 2011, 05:00
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Deleted my private message to you? Very mature. But I have nothing to hide from the readers here. This is what I wrote (naturally i've censored some words):

Whilst no one is criticising your hidden agenda on these forums (none of us want to see our pay pockets emptied), you are going about it completely the wrong way and on the wrong forums and to the wrong people.

its p!ss!ng me off. no cadet deserves to read the negative sh!te you trash the forums with. I stand shoulder to shoulder with you on 100% of everything. just not the method you are going about things.
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Old 3rd Mar 2011, 16:29
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you keep on bringing up the same old BS. Lets get something straight. Mr and Miss young CPP Cadet don't give 2 sh!ts about you, me or the T&Cs of the more mature generation at Cathay. They don't know us so hence will not care that us at CX have seen our pockets being emptied over the years - and why should they?

45'000 HKD (£4000) per month for doing bugger all for 4 years! Who the F wouldn't take that deal??? Telling these little lovlies that they'll be living in a shoebox won't matter to them. Change the record fool.

You are giving these poor cadets earache..And giving me heartaburn.
Thats not true, I was thinking about applying for the scheme when I am old enough. I would personally care as you would certainly want respect from the guys above you otherwise you will have a pretty miserable experience. I find it useful what many of the CX pilots have commented about on here, it gives a view of life in CX which will be a big concern to most people joining any company.

I certainly wouldn't take that deal. A couple of minutes of calculations answered that question for me. I did a google search of renting apartments in HK and was shocked by the cost. I found an online supermarket and calculated a weekly shop. Rent and supermarket bills take a big lump of that 4000 away, add electric bills, gas, tax and activities for fun.

If many cadets still accept these conditions then by how much further will the conditions have deteriorated be like when they get to Captain???
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Old 3rd Mar 2011, 19:08
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Hi All,

Thought I'd share my experiences from stage 1 in February at London, I was alongside one other candidate throughout my afternoon.

Interview: This was pretty straightforward, 30 mins HR related questions and 30mins of Technical. I was a complete novice and the questions were in my opinion suited to my capability, however if I were to do it again I would read more than just the amount you think is right, go further and more in depth than the JKI booklet provided.

Reasoning: It was based on the Raven's matrices as mentioned on numerous occasions in this forum, just practice on it till you feel comfortable.

Personality: Just be honest and you will be fine, lots of questions asking you to rank sentences that describe yourself.

JKI Test: Revise the hell out of the booklet and more importantly understand the concepts and how things work with the aircraft.

Well, it's not much of a thorough review, but of what I encountered during the day.
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