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Forum: ATC Issues
23rd Aug 2010, 16:24
Replies: 21
Views: 5,272
Posted By fourthreethree

Lon More retired somewhere in the 1920's......:E ...

Lon More retired somewhere in the 1920's......:E

There have been multiple changes in nightshift philosophy since you left Lon, I remember the 2hr nightshift nonsense, caused quite some uproar. Now...
Forum: ATC Issues
16th Mar 2008, 18:13
Replies: 350
Views: 66,264
Posted By fourthreethree

loubylou.....TT works in his own world, where...

loubylou.....TT works in his own world, where rules and standards exist purely to be manipulated according to who he intends to wind up :eek: :E :p

It normally works mind.......
Forum: ATC Issues
15th Mar 2008, 10:38
Replies: 350
Views: 66,264
Posted By fourthreethree

"ABC123 descend Flight Level two seven zero" ...

"ABC123 descend Flight Level two seven zero"

"Roger, descending two seven zero ABC123 "

"ABC123 confirm thats FLIGHT LEVEL two seven zero"

"I say again we are descending two seven zero...
Forum: ATC Issues
28th Nov 2007, 13:14
Replies: 34
Views: 6,938
Posted By fourthreethree

Not at all. If you look into some of my previous...

Not at all. If you look into some of my previous threads you will see I am fully aware that some phraseology can be mis-understood, in fact I have had the "temerity" to ask pilots if they understand...
Forum: ATC Issues
27th Nov 2007, 09:18
Replies: 34
Views: 6,938
Posted By fourthreethree

Pontius's Copilot....THANKYOU!!!!:ok: I was...

Pontius's Copilot....THANKYOU!!!!:ok:
I was reading this thread with my jaw agape at the variation from Air Traffic Controllers as to the meaning of a clearance used hundreds of times every day. I...
Forum: ATC Issues
15th Dec 2006, 09:49
Replies: 28
Views: 4,109
Posted By fourthreethree

Hear hear :ok: To add my two penn'orth, there...

Hear hear :ok:
To add my two penn'orth, there is no test, for ATC or any other job for that matter, that can bee 100% accurate, but there needs to be a means to reduce the number of applicants and...
Forum: ATC Issues
26th Jul 2006, 08:45
Replies: 64
Views: 9,247
Posted By fourthreethree

Yes you hold the ultimate responsibility for the...

Yes you hold the ultimate responsibility for the safety of the aircraft, and you have the right to refuse an ATC restriction or instruction if you feel it puts you in danger. But that also applies to...
Forum: ATC Issues
26th Jul 2006, 08:22
Replies: 3
Views: 700
Posted By fourthreethree

Probably stating the bleedin obvious here....but...

Probably stating the bleedin obvious here....but have you mentioned to them you would prefer to finish your degree first? I am sure they could defer your entry to a later ab initio. They are human...
Forum: ATC Issues
21st Dec 2004, 13:01
Replies: 10
Views: 2,833
Posted By fourthreethree

I would generally agree, RYR are pretty good...

I would generally agree, RYR are pretty good customers. One small gripe would be the initial call, which nine times out of ten comes with a request for DCT. I'm sure they are pressured from above to...
Forum: ATC Issues
29th Nov 2004, 13:29
Replies: 12
Views: 2,135
Posted By fourthreethree

Ok thats it...I'm out of here....I cannot and...

Ok thats it...I'm out of here....I cannot and will not work under these conditions!!!!!! :E :8 ;)
Forum: ATC Issues
29th Nov 2004, 10:07
Replies: 12
Views: 2,135
Posted By fourthreethree

SR71 Under no circumstances should ATC gie...

SR71

Under no circumstances should ATC gie you the next contact channel in the same transmission as a clearance in case of a misunderstood clearance there might not be the chance to correct it....
Forum: ATC Issues
28th Nov 2004, 19:58
Replies: 12
Views: 2,135
Posted By fourthreethree

Use of the words "Flight Level"

This is fast becoming a pet hate of mine.
When I give a pilot the clearance "Descend Flight Level 270" I expect the readback " descending flight level 270"

NOT...

"Descending 270"

There...
Forum: ATC Issues
22nd Nov 2004, 16:54
Replies: 12
Views: 2,013
Posted By fourthreethree

Automatic transfer of comms, not a good idea!!...

Automatic transfer of comms, not a good idea!! The transfer oc comms, as explained by DFC, is carried out by the controller, based on several factors, such as clearance from other traffic etc. There...
Forum: ATC Issues
16th Oct 2004, 10:43
Replies: 45
Views: 6,716
Posted By fourthreethree

Nobody can answer that question for you...

Nobody can answer that question for you imho...its a bit like asking should I play football or rugby, personal choice is the only deciding factor.
Hope that helps:uhoh:

edited to add this wasnt...
Forum: ATC Issues
13th Oct 2004, 13:10
Replies: 20
Views: 3,786
Posted By fourthreethree

Same as Moira said....most English people at...

Same as Moira said....most English people at Eurocontrol start out over here speaking only English. As far as work goes you will have absolutely no problem at all with that. On a social level I have...
Forum: ATC Issues
23rd Sep 2004, 16:16
Replies: 57
Views: 7,477
Posted By fourthreethree

You better ask "Mr" Impi that one....just look in...

You better ask "Mr" Impi that one....just look in the mirror.


Well thanks for clearing that up.:=


Oh where do I start? At least if you're going to have a go at me try and do it in the...
Forum: ATC Issues
22nd Sep 2004, 22:29
Replies: 57
Views: 7,477
Posted By fourthreethree

......checks Davina's registered date....:eek:...

......checks Davina's registered date....:eek: :eek: :eek: would you Adam and Eve it!!!!

Keep this up, its fantastic entertainment:ok:
Forum: ATC Issues
7th Sep 2004, 12:48
Replies: 63
Views: 9,956
Posted By fourthreethree

Ok so lets try and draw some conclusions from...

Ok so lets try and draw some conclusions from this. Many controllers do not use the term expedite due to its lack of definition. Others who do use it expect different things from a pilot depending on...
Forum: ATC Issues
5th Sep 2004, 20:39
Replies: 63
Views: 9,956
Posted By fourthreethree

Ferris Actually it was used....when the...

Ferris

Actually it was used....when the controllre noticed the two aircraft converging he issued a descent clearance to the T154 to descend FL350 using the phraseology "expedite, I have crossing...
Forum: ATC Issues
5th Sep 2004, 16:04
Replies: 63
Views: 9,956
Posted By fourthreethree

Ok ok this has turned into a bit of a slanging...

Ok ok this has turned into a bit of a slanging match, and it was most likely my first post on here that started it off down that road, it was not the intention.

I will say this, I never use the...
Forum: ATC Issues
4th Sep 2004, 22:27
Replies: 63
Views: 9,956
Posted By fourthreethree

Show me something to support this statement....it...

Show me something to support this statement....it seems to me you have picked a figure out of the air, something you personally expect when controlling. If that is what is expected, then say it in...
Forum: ATC Issues
4th Sep 2004, 22:15
Replies: 63
Views: 9,956
Posted By fourthreethree

Over + Out I told you where I work, so guesswork...

Over + Out I told you where I work, so guesswork doesn't come into it. It most definately is a busy environment, and Spuds already said what I wanted to say. I ask you again, what do you expect from...
Forum: ATC Issues
4th Sep 2004, 14:44
Replies: 63
Views: 9,956
Posted By fourthreethree

Roger Dodge What do you expect from a pilot...

Roger Dodge
What do you expect from a pilot when you tell him to "expedite through FL80" ? Do you have his load information/fuel on board/engine perfomance charts in front of you? My point is, if...
Forum: ATC Issues
3rd Sep 2004, 17:13
Replies: 63
Views: 9,956
Posted By fourthreethree

The phraseology "expedite climb" doesn't mean...

The phraseology "expedite climb" doesn't mean anything. Nobody here has been able to give an official response with ICAO definitions. Why? Cos there ain't any, thats why.
stands by to be proven...
Forum: ATC Issues
26th Aug 2004, 17:33
Replies: 30
Views: 3,537
Posted By fourthreethree

Ok some valid points WestCoast, but with regards...

Ok some valid points WestCoast, but with regards using TCAS for traffic awareness when requesting level change, you still don't see my point.

Fine so you see opposite traffic above you 20NM out....
Forum: ATC Issues
26th Aug 2004, 06:37
Replies: 30
Views: 3,537
Posted By fourthreethree

West Coast I can see where you're coming from,...

West Coast
I can see where you're coming from, but your point of view is (quite naturally) from a pilot's perspective. Let me expand

Ok, so you see some traffic that you think could have an...
Forum: ATC Issues
11th Aug 2004, 15:51
Replies: 4
Views: 1,243
Posted By fourthreethree

Eurocontrol Upper Area ATC centre is located in...

Eurocontrol Upper Area ATC centre is located in Maastricht, NL. Brussels is the HQ and also Flow Centre (CFMU) but these are not for you if you want to talk to the big jets.

Whatever you decide,...
Forum: ATC Issues
11th Aug 2004, 11:14
Replies: 57
Views: 7,477
Posted By fourthreethree

Nice to know you're applying for all the right...

Nice to know you're applying for all the right reasons, then:suspect:
Forum: ATC Issues
25th Jul 2004, 17:16
Replies: 12
Views: 1,298
Posted By fourthreethree

bids I was just wondering why you had taken...

bids
I was just wondering why you had taken this time off :E

Lon, I did indeed put the mutts names in, one was "Anything where you can kiss ass." the other was "Jungle explorer".:\ Glad you...
Forum: ATC Issues
21st Jul 2004, 21:48
Replies: 12
Views: 1,298
Posted By fourthreethree

:eek: I've just found out my Father in Law is a...

:eek: I've just found out my Father in Law is a porn star, my wife cleans sewers for a living, my daughter is gonna play for Aberdeen and I'm gonna quit this 5 mile malarky and become Prime...
Forum: ATC Issues
19th Jul 2004, 14:21
Replies: 40
Views: 5,506
Posted By fourthreethree

Giles I started what turned out to be a...

Giles

I started what turned out to be a very interesting discussion on this topic here (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=98945&highlight=descent) which makes some...
Forum: ATC Issues
18th Jul 2004, 15:22
Replies: 40
Views: 5,506
Posted By fourthreethree

I thought I would resurrect this thread in order...

I thought I would resurrect this thread in order to relay to you a brief exchange over the R/T a couple of hours ago.

ATC: ABC123 decsend FL260 to be level in seven minutes
ABC123: Is that seven...
Forum: ATC Issues
11th Jul 2004, 11:38
Replies: 40
Views: 5,506
Posted By fourthreethree

I've been following this thread for a while,...

I've been following this thread for a while, these things always seem to turn into a battle of egos between atco's and pilots. It seems to me everybody is missing the point. It is written in the ICAO...
Forum: ATC Issues
24th Jun 2004, 08:34
Replies: 68
Views: 11,477
Posted By fourthreethree

"ABC123 descend flight level two six zero" ...

"ABC123 descend flight level two six zero"
"Roger descending two six zero"
"ABC123 confirm thats FLIGHT LEVEL two six zero"
"Affirm descending two six zero"

What is the problem with those two...
Forum: ATC Issues
12th Jun 2004, 18:46
Replies: 20
Views: 3,666
Posted By fourthreethree

ZRH

..................Say again? :p :8 :ouch: :E
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