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Forum: ATC Issues
13th Jul 2002, 22:18
Replies: 19
Views: 2,029
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

Big Tudor Overloads are nothing to do with...

Big Tudor

Overloads are nothing to do with pay, they are a safety issue. There can't be many ATCOs who would ask for a pay increase in return for not filing overloads.
Forum: ATC Issues
30th Jun 2002, 10:39
Replies: 25
Views: 2,335
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

PH-UKU, Aunt Rimmer Next time I think about...

PH-UKU, Aunt Rimmer
Next time I think about posting a quick compliment to my colleagues I'll phone my lawyer, spin doctor, analyst, and 7 specialist advisors. That way I might not get my arse...
Forum: ATC Issues
29th Jun 2002, 13:02
Replies: 25
Views: 2,335
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

What I meant was that as far as I know there were...

What I meant was that as far as I know there were no crashes, near misses or other reportable safety incidents between planes as a direct result of this outage.

I was trying to point out how well...
Forum: ATC Issues
28th Jun 2002, 17:19
Replies: 25
Views: 2,335
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

Problems with UPS switching, then problems...

Problems with UPS switching, then problems reverting as I understand. Less that 500 min delays in total and no safety problems.
Lots of pressure on airport ATC as well. Just the sort of situation...
Forum: ATC Issues
22nd Jun 2002, 14:34
Replies: 76
Views: 7,256
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

The results were... ...

The results were...

YES NO
ATCO Branch 275 1172
ATSS Branch 716 127
PCS 628 18

250 kts I wasn't meaning that only those at...
Forum: ATC Issues
21st Jun 2002, 21:41
Replies: 76
Views: 7,256
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

250 kts (Cue "Points of View" voice) Why...

250 kts

(Cue "Points of View" voice)
Why oh why oh why do some operational ATCO's think they're the only ones who count?
You are part of a team, ALL of whom contribute to the safe,...
Forum: ATC Issues
19th Jun 2002, 16:21
Replies: 3
Views: 719
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

If there is any truth to this then make an...

If there is any truth to this then make an official complaint, otherwise it’s just unsubstantiated rumour, and doing no-one any good.
Forum: ATC Issues
16th Jun 2002, 22:14
Replies: 76
Views: 7,256
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

Co ordination unaffected Sorry to...

Co ordination unaffected


Sorry to disappoint you but you are only paid for the days you work plus holidays.
Roughly, 40 hours gross for 52 weeks per year, using your £38000 figure gives-
...
Forum: ATC Issues
14th Jun 2002, 16:13
Replies: 76
Views: 7,256
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

So 1172 for, 274 against is a total of 1446...

So 1172 for, 274 against is a total of 1446 votes cast. If this is 72% turnout that means that there were 2008 people eligible to vote. I thought NATS employed more ATCOs than that - the website...
Forum: ATC Issues
9th Jun 2002, 19:34
Replies: 7
Views: 1,438
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

I think the point Direct HALIFAX may be trying to...

I think the point Direct HALIFAX may be trying to make is that if you're a bit fed up with management and go out of your way to waste money and cut standards you can't expecta big pay rise...
Forum: ATC Issues
24th May 2002, 16:29
Replies: 46
Views: 3,821
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

Expeditedescent and later... No, I...

Expeditedescent

and later...

No, I don't get it. How can you say that your workload is related to traffic levels, and then say that it isn't? How do you quantify it as 8%?

This is a side...
Forum: ATC Issues
23rd May 2002, 22:17
Replies: 46
Views: 3,821
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

Expeditedescent Why the link between...

Expeditedescent

Why the link between traffic levels and pay then?

I do understand that the arguments, I also understand the current economic situation. I understand that NATS gets it's income...
Forum: ATC Issues
22nd May 2002, 22:32
Replies: 46
Views: 3,821
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

Expeditedescent A good analogy. Look at...

Expeditedescent


A good analogy. Look at how many jobs have been lost in the banking sector in the lastfive or ten years.



Whatever gave anyone the idea that it should? Do you really...
Forum: ATC Issues
21st May 2002, 23:53
Replies: 46
Views: 3,821
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

160to4DME, it is everyones right to make public...

160to4DME, it is everyones right to make public or keep secret the way they vote in this or any other ballot. Many of those who have posted in the other topics related to this have made it clear...
Forum: ATC Issues
21st May 2002, 19:31
Replies: 46
Views: 3,821
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

I'm an Air Traffic Control Engineer working for...

I'm an Air Traffic Control Engineer working for NATS, and have done so for more than 20 years, so that takes care of the origin issue. As to reactions, I'm responsible for what I post - not what...
Forum: ATC Issues
21st May 2002, 18:12
Replies: 46
Views: 3,821
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

NATS Pay Ballot (The only vote that counts)

Got mine today, voted YES, and posted it.

Remember, ATCO's didn't go on strike to try to stop the PPP, why should they do so for a few extra £££ per month?

What about everyone else?
Forum: ATC Issues
29th Apr 2002, 18:28
Replies: 21
Views: 2,542
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

PPRuNe Radar My understanding is that the...

PPRuNe Radar

My understanding is that the current regulations were devised by the regulators in conjunction with all ATCO employers at the time.
NATS is by far the largest employer of ATCOs in...
Forum: ATC Issues
28th Apr 2002, 21:58
Replies: 21
Views: 2,542
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

BEX I stand corrected, SRATCOH it is. Whatever...

BEX I stand corrected, SRATCOH it is. Whatever it's called it will be overhauled soon - that's unavoidable. ATCO wages are by far the biggest expense the company has, so getting them working more...
Forum: ATC Issues
28th Apr 2002, 19:35
Replies: 21
Views: 2,542
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

As a non-ATCO I agree. It's a secure well paid...

As a non-ATCO I agree. It's a secure well paid job with lots of time off and 30 minutes break every 2 hours - no matter how quiet you've been.

This will probably change when individual...
Forum: ATC Issues
13th Apr 2002, 22:09
Replies: 8
Views: 1,471
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

I thought they were there to cut down the blind...

I thought they were there to cut down the blind watches, early go's and rostered sick leave - but maybe that doesn't happen any more :)

Thinking the unthinkable...
Forum: ATC Issues
26th Mar 2002, 01:20
Replies: 4
Views: 571
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

Post This can only be done if the systems are on...

This can only be done if the systems are on different frequencies. Flight checking at Aberdeen several years ago with both glidepaths on at the same time caused negative flare and the whites pilot...
Forum: ATC Issues
26th Mar 2002, 01:00
Replies: 12
Views: 1,112
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

Exclamation Watched a program called Understanding Air...

Watched a program called Understanding Air Traffic Control last night. There was a bit on Sept 11th and how it was handled. It's repeated on Discovery on 31st March at 18:00 (NTL cable)
Forum: ATC Issues
10th Mar 2002, 14:41
Replies: 11
Views: 647
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

Post The 5 percent was always to be given in two...

The 5 percent was always to be given in two parts. Nobody I know has ever seen the agreement so we don't know what they are allowed to do. . .Incidentally, the company was sold for £850m so you...
Forum: ATC Issues
9th Mar 2002, 16:51
Replies: 11
Views: 647
Posted By NATS_Not_Funny

Question NATS Bankrupt?

NATS/TAG management have just told all employees that they are unable to fulfil their obligation to issue a second batch of shares as per the privatisation agreement. The reason given is that they...
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