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AngloFrench 3rd Aug 2016 12:06

Aviation Herald report:-


3rd July 2016 10:37Z
An Emirates Airlines Boeing 777-300, registration A6-EMW performing flight EK-521 from Thiruvananthapuram (India) to Dubai (United Arab Emirates) with 275 people on board, was on final approach to Dubai's runway 12L at 12:41L (08:41Z) but attempted to go around from low height. The aircraft however did not climb, but after retracting the gear touched down on the runway and burst into flames. Passengers are being reported evacuated and safe. The aircraft burned down completely.

Also reported Wind shear, dust clouds on approach, 11kt tailwind.

log0008 3rd Aug 2016 12:08


Originally Posted by AngloFrench (Post 9460504)
Aviation Herald report:-

Also reported Wind shear, dust clouds on approach, 11kt tailwind.

and why should you attempt to land?

Still amazed everyone is ok - every airline should get some 777's in there fleet!

New photo - still going down runway

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co7iMGNWcAAVs_7.jpg

Gridl0k 3rd Aug 2016 12:09

NB the 275 pob figure was revised to 282+18, so the rest of the AH report may be similarly flawed.

carguard 3rd Aug 2016 12:12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw9GADX-N-c

Interested Passenger 3rd Aug 2016 12:17

I wonder where Aviation Herald got their info from?

....attempted to go around from low height. The aircraft however did not climb, but after retracting the gear touched down on the runway and burst into flames...

gear up before positive rate of climb? If that's right, then surely that's wrong.

threemiles 3rd Aug 2016 12:17

49 were measured after the incident happened I guess

SP 03/08/2016 10:48->
SPECI OMDB 031048Z VRB06KT 6000 NSC 41/24 Q0992 WS ALL RWY
TEMPO=
SA 03/08/2016 10:00->
METAR OMDB 031000Z 11018KT 5000 BLDU NSC 49/05 Q0993 WS ALL
RWY TEMPO 35015KT 1500=
SA 03/08/2016 09:00->
METAR OMDB 030900Z 11021KT 3000 BLDU NSC 49/07 Q0993 WS ALL
RWY TEMPO 35015KT 1500=
SA 03/08/2016 08:00->
METAR OMDB 030800Z 14012KT 100V180 6000 NSC 48/09 Q0994 WS
ALL RWY TEMPO 35015KT 4000 DU=
SP 03/08/2016 07:49->
SPECI OMDB 030749Z 14012KT 110V180 6000 NSC 47/09 Q0994 WS
ALL RWY TEMPO 35015KT 4000 DU=
SA 03/08/2016 07:00->
METAR OMDB 030700Z 06007KT 360V100 8000 NSC 44/10 Q0995 NOSIG=

Avionyx 3rd Aug 2016 12:26


Originally Posted by Masagemarad (Post 9460526)
Emirates really show its true colors now with its top notch training department !!!! WTF

Regardless of what actually happened to cause the incident this statement is quite true.... the Cabin Crew quite clearly did an absolutely sterling job in getting everybody out of there alive.

They did a job to be proud of Today. What happened up front we will find out in time but I don't think the CC's actions can be criticized in any way given the outcome.

AN2 Driver 3rd Aug 2016 12:32


Surface temperature 49degs, QNH 993 - what kind of density altitude is that?
approximately 4500 ft

atakacs 3rd Aug 2016 12:33

282+18 reported - is 16 CC (I guess this was a 2 pilot flight ?) typical ?

hoss183 3rd Aug 2016 12:36


troppo: poor hoss might have got an unwarranted flaming
Thanks
We will never know as my perfectly reasonable analysis of visual clues was deleted.
My point was - it does not look like a gear collapse as first reported, rather a gear-up landing, which has now been reported. Thank you over-zealous mods.

JNPS 3rd Aug 2016 12:36

Avionyx,
You are quite right about the cc crew actions. They also saved the pax.( all of them), in YYZ a few years ago. I find that many of my colleagues are quick to speak in a derogatory manner about the cc, belittle their roles, question their abilities. When the real test came in the aforementioned accidents, they not only rose to the challenge, but shone!

As a soon to retire Professional Pilot of 29 years, ( 1 to go), I have nothing but respect for their abilities in these incredibly difficult situations. Not to mention, what they put up with during the course of their regular work.

Mimpe 3rd Aug 2016 12:39

When I saw the pressure, temp 49deg, and the tailwind .......I'm so glad it ended ok

cressidom 3rd Aug 2016 12:42

I sure hope there wasn't any Live Animals in the hold.

Nemrytter 3rd Aug 2016 12:44


I wonder where Aviation Herald got their info from?
Presumably from the ATC transmissions, which reported going around and 'gear up'.

Good to see that log0008 and others still not crediting pictures.:=

Deep and fast 3rd Aug 2016 12:45

We all know fatigue is cumulative so the rosters for the previous 3 months would tell a better story.
Don't forget bunk time and ground duties on top of 100 hours a month.

A4 3rd Aug 2016 12:49

Can we stop with the tailwind? Landed on 12L @ 0841Z.
Wind @ 0800Z was 140/12 Varying 100 to 180.
Wind at 0900Z was 110/21.

So, predominantly from the SE with a bit of variation either side of the r/w axis.

BUT with WS reported and circa 45 C and low QNH....

PW1830 3rd Aug 2016 12:56

The words GoAround,Flapsxx, Gear Up might have been said but if the mode doesn't engage for whatever reason....... JetStar tried it and got away with it. Recognition of positive climb before the pilot selects the gear up works well.

troff 3rd Aug 2016 12:57

gear up before positive rate of climb? If that's right, then surely that's wrong.

Interested Passenger, FYI, in a G/A situation with W/S there is no configuration change till well clear of the W/S

Azeem sudheer 3rd Aug 2016 12:57

Crash of emirates 777
 
Yes.but something doesnt fit in because they are supposed to retract the gear only after a positive rate of climb is verified.

And plus,if they attempted go around and still hit the ground that might mean that they stalled out or didnt follow correct procedures

littco 3rd Aug 2016 12:58

https://youtu.be/12XAQf6u1kI

Clearly shows engine on top of the wing


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