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sleeper 3rd Aug 2016 10:41


Originally Posted by SunnyUpHere (Post 9460442)
AVherald reports;

"...was on final approach to Dubai's runway 12L at 12:41L (08:41Z) but attempted to go around from low height. The aircraft however did not climb, but after retracting the gear touched down on the runway and burst into flames...."

Windshear was also reported.

Possibly the crew decided to go around due to windshear, but got caught in it and hit the runway?

This could be a very reasonable assumption.

PoppaJo 3rd Aug 2016 10:42


Possibly the crew decided to go around due to windshear, but got caught in it and hit the runway?
Looks like some serious damage near the tail skid also which would indicate most likely.

Gridl0k 3rd Aug 2016 10:44

AP report 282 passengers, 18 crew, no fatalities.

mommus 3rd Aug 2016 10:46

@ImPlaneCrazy

Looks like they were evacuating people right next to the wing that exploded too - if indeed it was the wing, rather than the centre fuel tank exploding.

Still can't believe everyone survived this.

ACMS 3rd Aug 2016 10:46

Which is the most important detail.

daelight 3rd Aug 2016 10:48

If indeed it dropped like a rock from height > 100ft yet the cabin integrity was assured, all pax and crew evacuated .. Well.. god bless the engineers of this aircraft...

atakacs 3rd Aug 2016 10:49


Still can't believe everyone survived this.
It is indeed almost miraculous (if confirmed) - but if nothing else reinforce the very good survivability track record of the 777.

mommus 3rd Aug 2016 10:50


Originally Posted by daelight (Post 9460464)
If indeed it dropped like a rock from height > 100ft yet the cabin integrity was assured, all pax and crew evacuated .. Well.. god bless the engineers of this aircraft...

Absolutely. The BA fuel-starvation crash always surprises me for the same reason.

Seems a solid old girl the 777

log0008 3rd Aug 2016 10:51



This is the ATC from the link above, very hard to hear much at all, other than EK521 clear to land (response from crew)

buggerall 3rd Aug 2016 10:51

Do we know (hopefully X infinity) that EVAC was complete?

LLuCCiFeR 3rd Aug 2016 10:53


Originally Posted by susier (Post 9460420)
From the AVHerald:

'According to ATC recordings the aircraft performed a normal approach and landing, there was no priority or emergency declared. Upon contacting tower tower reminded the crew of lowering the gear and cleared the aircraft to land. Another approach reported on tower frequency.

About 2 minutes after EK-521 reported on tower tower instructed the aircraft to climb to 4000 feet (no go-around call heard from the crew), the crew acknowledged climbing to 4000 feet, a few seconds later tower instructs the next arrival to go around and alerts emergency services. The position of the aircraft is described near the end of the runway.'

If this is correct, it would be very strange of the TWR having to remind the crew to lower the gear.

Originally Posted by Ollie Onion (Post 9460441)
It is being reported elsewhere that the aircraft was instructed to go-around by ATC and the aircraft impacted the runway after the gear was retracted.

Perhaps ATC told the aircraft to go around because the gear was never extended in the first place?

nolimitholdem 3rd Aug 2016 10:54

Night turnaround. 4 hr sectors. Landing at 12:45pm local. Hmmm....

I would never have guessed anything could go wrong on one of those lovely Annex 1 flights.

:yuk:

troff 3rd Aug 2016 10:57

That crew were on a 29 hour layover in TRV after deadheading over on the 2nd.

BuzzBox 3rd Aug 2016 10:58


Absolutely. The BA fuel-starvation crash always surprises me for the same reason.

Seems a solid old girl the 777
Not to mention Asiana's cartwheel in SFO.

MELDreamer 3rd Aug 2016 10:58

Surface temperature 49degs, QNH 993 - what kind of density altitude is that? I'm not Triple7 qualified, but what are the operating limits for the type?
Add windshear, a go-around - that's an unfortunate mix.

Aslak 3rd Aug 2016 10:59

Heard from someone on the ramp that it appeared that the gear was down, aircraft touched down well after midpoint with very high nose up attitude and the other main collapsed on touch down. Very early to speculate but WS?

LLuCCiFeR 3rd Aug 2016 10:59


Originally Posted by HeartyMeatballs (Post 9460487)
All we need now is Alex Macheras using accidents for his own sickening self publicity, David Learmount talking rubbish and Geoffrey Thomas proclaiming how 'that would never happen to Qantas' and you have the complete post crash horror show of self proclaimed, self absorbed and self promoting 'experts' showing that they are anything but.

I watch Casualty. Surely that qualifies me to be a healthcare expert?

Yeah, and that complete tw@t on the Clinton News Network: Richard Quest!

ExDubai 3rd Aug 2016 11:00


Originally Posted by nolimitholdem (Post 9460481)
Night turnaround. 4 hr sectors. Landing at 12:45pm local. Hmmm....

I would never have guessed anything could go wrong on one of those lovely Annex 1 flights.

:yuk:

Any chance that we just wait a little bit and find out what happened before we start throwing the stones?

DingerX 3rd Aug 2016 11:03

Maybe it took them a little too long to figure out what the GPWS was on about at 500 feet.

nolimitholdem 3rd Aug 2016 11:05


Any chance that we just wait a little bit and find out what happened before we start throwing the stones?
Not throwing stones. I think the use of exceptions to FTL's to squeeze the hours on some night t/a's is outrageous - I still think that.

But if troff is correct, not a factor in this accident. Good to hear.


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