Doesn't fit AT ALL.
The ValuJet flight was over in minutes after the fire was detected.
Sure.. they didn't have time to utter a single sentence but instead had hours to wonder through the airspace, trying different directions, altitudes.... :ugh:

It is not about one person. No stone must be left unturned. The people who had the opportunity must be looked at objectively and that includes securing any evidence that might shed light on their innocence or otherwise. The longer they leave it to forensically examine the Home SIM the greater likelihood it can be tampered with.

I just saw an "expert" on CNN claim that there was a seismic event (earthquake/aircraft crash) in the exact location at the exact time that contact was lost with MH370 and that the area was a "non seismic" area.

Perhaps someone should let him know the "event" happened an hour after contact was lost, and that the area is inside the "Ring of fire" seismic zone! :eek:

All these suggestions about sabotage - maybe just maybe the supposed changes in heading/altitude were just a pilot trying to take control of a major systems/control failure. In the absence of any realistic motive or sabotage plan its possible there is no foul play. We are yet to question the absolute accuracy or detail of these pings and who has decoded them

So, while struggling to gain control, they enter a new flight plan, remain at altitude, cease any comms FOR FIVE HOURS!

Guys, its simple it doesn't add up, but there will be an explanation in time...

Well said. I was thinking the same as well. The fact of the matter is, no-one knows 100% what happened to MH 370. What about the right to be innocent until proven guilty? A lot of people on here making sensationalist accusations with little or no proof. :rolleyes:

It is clear from the path (if the path is correct) they did not have big problems with controlling the jet, they could climb, descend, they could fly perfectly straight and make turns. Frankly the scenario that flight controls are busted and at the same time ALL communications channels are also down while the jet remains airborne for hours is so unlikely that alien abduction is probably equally likely at this point.

well it ...
 

It managed to pass through Indonesian and Thai airspace undetected, which is a bad sign for both countries air defense, if it dropped to a low altitude say -it may not be visible to radar.

Oxygen
 

A very few 777 carriers paid for bottled oxygen option for the pax cabin. Nearly all have chemical generators (plus a handful of portable bottles) for cabin crew.

Stop posting complete claptrap
 

The dumb, ignorant ill-informed nonsense that is being posted about this incident is getting me down. Is there a way to limit posts to industry only, Maybe CPL/ATPL holders....any ideas! Im sure this has happened before but this thread seems the worst ever and media will start adopting some of these far fetched brain dumps as plausible. 40,000'/min descent is a great example!

:*:*

No Smokin hole or water debris ,Nothing, just like the comms.

No answer today, No answers at all. All points to getting jacked .

What does the insurance carriers say? Cargo or pax for ransom?

Someone dreaming to become the next Airheart?

I believe there are roughly three or four posts in this wonderful thread that at least allude to this question.

And it is one well worth asking in expanded form ie any body have LOA of any kind in the area ? Manned or unmanned ??


For many of the 'aftermath' speculations this could fit.

In otherwords, the key critical first event was a mid collision of some kind.

And yes, one can wonder about that other track.

One Malaysian official when queried as to why they let it go over came back with something alone the lines of it '- appeared friendly'.


Many appear unsatisfied with this 'minor' aspect of the tale.

It does on the first pass, seem more than strange that unidentified airspace intrusion of this type is not a concern.


However, perhaps...... this kind of observation is a regular thing ??

And if you think about it, perhaps a regular ( and arranged ??? ) drone crossing point or similar ?


Then, we can look at the media.

To the best of my knowledge, this possibility or speculation has not once been raised, while they are quite willing, in some cases, to go off the deep end with many other.


Well, who knows, but sometimes what is not said is @ least as useful as what is.

CNN Report
CNN Exclusive: Analysis shows Flight 370 crashed in Indian Ocean - CNN.com

"Among the things being considered is whether lithium batteries in the cargo hold, which have been blamed in previous crashes, played a role in the disappearance, according to U.S. officials briefed on the latest developments in the investigation. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release details to the media.
If the batteries being carried on the plane caused a fire, it still doesn't fully explain other anomalies with Flight 370, the officials say."

I would love to know where the Cargo manifest was disseminated from? And who their source is?
The cargo on board if any is still a missing piece of information here.
Could an uncontrolled lithium ion battery fire in the forward cargo cut all cabling from the avionics to the rest of the aircraft ie. antenna cables etc? Is the proximity forward cargo to the avionics bay and cabling close enough to warrant concern?
New ICAO / IATA lithium ion battery carrying rules were implemented last year world wide.

time to fuel exhaustion
 

Endurance must be less than 7 hours if acft maneuvered as much as now being reported. Especially if most of the flight was at FL230. A much narrower search area should be established based on new data from Malaysian PSR and Inmarsat packets.

Based on known flight to IGARI then assuming acft DM FL230 and went D VAMPI D GIVAL D IGREX anyone want to hazard a guess at the range after IGREX?

most logical explanation so far
 

the totality of what we know at this point IMHO, points to deliberate "hijacking" of the plane by either the captain or copilot. an external hijacker is not going to be savvy or technically proficient to fly through these navigational waypoints, in addition the pilot apparently timed the flight diversion to after the plane left the first country's air traffic control etc.

I suspect this will turn out to be suicide by pilot, I believe for whatever reason he was trying to hide his plot in this odd way. if they haven't already investigated thoroughly the pilots personal life's, financial situation, evidence of depression etc that would be a serious oversight.

Flight Sim observation
 

I find it odd that the First Officer is outed on Australian TV as having broken security protocol by inviting a couple of highschool girls on the flight deck and trying to hook-up with them while they were on holiday in Thailand. I can venture that was not an isolated event as well. The forum's attitude here was that its unfortunate the media portrayed him like that and he shouldn't be remembered that way. Also noting the captain on that flight will likely face disciplinary action (rightly so). Even if, and I'll admit it, they don't look like the terrorist types, it demonstrates a willy-nilly attitude towards his duties and responsibilities on the flight-deck as well as security.

Captain Shah on the other hand, has had no reports of wrong doing (so far). He's demonstrated a love for flying with his #1 Carreer #2 RC models #3 Flight Sim hobby. Contrary to the FO, Capt. Shah is immediately suspect because he has an over the top computer gaming setup? You guys need to give it a rest. Its a hobby, something to throw time and money at and a pretty interesting hobby to many people.

I'm sure there are plenty of people here (myself included) whom some would think they have gone overboard on a hobby and have way too many putters or drivers. Who on here has spent more than $2,500 on a bicycle? Fishing equipment? Home theater system? Classic cars? Gun collection? Ham radio setup?

Also, I'd venture to guess that a capt. wih 18,000+ hours probably wouldn't need to 'practice' cutting the circuit beakers and flipping a u-turn in the sim. More likely, he spends most of his sim time flying WW2 fighters in dogfights or gliders over the Alps.

One more thing, from looking through capt. Shah's youtube history, it appears he was most likely an atheist and certainly not any kind of religious nutjob terrorist candidate.

SKY REPORTING - Malaysian official reporting plane hijacked

Last satellte traces of plane are from 1000 miles west of Perth

Missing Malaysian Jet Said Tracked to Ocean Off Australia - Bloomberg

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The reliability of ACARS was questioned days ago by referencing the discrepancies on 9/11 data.