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p.j.m 15th Mar 2014 06:30

So after 7 days of telling us there was no doubt the aircraft crashed at a little after 1am in the Gulf of Thailand, and no other option, Malaysia are now they admitting "credible evidence" days ago about the aircraft being tracked over the Straits of Malaca, now they admitting raw SATCOM data tracked the aircraft over the Straits of Malacca and to either Kazakstan or Southern Indian Ocean (i.e. off Australia)!

So seems they HAVE been lying the whole time, and other reports are in fact true!

mabuhay_2000 15th Mar 2014 06:30

Wow.
 
This is a hell of a press conference.

The last CONFIRMED contact with satellite was at 8.11am local. That is 7.5 hours after take off, which would be at the extreme of suggested range, based on fuel suggested fuel load.

me myself and fly 15th Mar 2014 06:33

Malaysian PM - Based on new data MH370 could be in the northern corridor (Thailand - Kazakhstan) or southern corridor (Indonesia southwards)

"PM: Nothern corridor between Kazachstan & Turkmenistan to northern Thailand OR Malaysia to Southern Indian Ocean"

threemiles 15th Mar 2014 06:34

last ping from mh370 to satellite at 8.11 am Malaysia time
that is 6 hrs 50 after last radar blip or 7 hrs 30 after takeoff

HighAndFlighty 15th Mar 2014 06:35

@Helen_D



If the theory is that the aircraft crashed into the sea, deliberately or otherwise, wouldn't the "impact" have been picked up by the various sonar/SOSUS/seismic recorders?

That is exactly what the Chinese, in there traditionally oblique way, are suggesting.

nitpicker330 15th Mar 2014 06:38

Holy smokes.......if I was a relative of one of the pax/crew on the Aircraft I would hold out a lot of hope they are sitting somewhere waiting to be found......

flash8 15th Mar 2014 06:40

Some posters need to take a step back. There is absolutely a 0% (zero) chance this a/c entered Russian airspace.

PieChaser 15th Mar 2014 06:42

The way this is going, someone's going to be speculating on a landing, refueling and onward flight!

sleemanj 15th Mar 2014 06:43


Originally Posted by Space Jet (Post 8377022)
So Kazastan???

That is at the extreme of one of the areas. And the other area seems a lot more likely.

Given the new last known time is at the extent of endurance, it's probably in the drink, and the Indian ocean is a deep drink.

Fatfish 15th Mar 2014 06:43

Now, perhaps they'll have a search in the pilot's house and computers.
Better late than never

jugofpropwash 15th Mar 2014 06:46


The last CONFIRMED contact with satellite was at 8.11am local. That is 7.5 hours after take off, which would be at the extreme of suggested range, based on fuel suggested fuel load.
Anywhere that they might have made a quick stop, had a fuel truck waiting (or even siphoned from another plane) and taken off again?

Or have we ever gotten an accurate accounting of just how much fuel was on board when they initially took off?

This whole thing seems to be planned too well to cut it that close on fuel. That would be taking a big chance with unfavorable winds, etc.

CodyBlade 15th Mar 2014 06:46

Egypt Air FO was under investigation for incident with hotel chambermaid?
MI185 ex-airforce capt lost his TR ticket due to SB switch off habit?


Was the Capt or FO under any Co. disciplinary action?

Horrible questions, but have to cover every angle.

p.j.m 15th Mar 2014 06:46


Originally Posted by nitpicker330 (Post 8377041)
2/ how much fuel did it depart with

This was answered on day 1. It had enough to get to Beijing and an extra hour.

so 7 hours (plus or minus a bit).

The SATCOM indicates 7.5 hours of flight.

Airbubba 15th Mar 2014 06:50

The Malaysian PM just finished a press conference, took no questions. Some quick take aways from scribbled notes, this is what I thought I heard:

Said human intervention was likely but still declined to say it was hijacking. One continuing focus of the investigation is the pax and crew given the latest developments.

Said there was a new northern search corridor toward Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Northern Thailand, and a southern search corridor toward Indonesia and the South Indian Ocean.

The military primary radar correlates with the satellite provider information, the track of the unknown aircraft flying back over peninsular Malaysia was indeed MH 370. ACARS was switched off before the transponder as the aircraft first left the Malaysian coast outbound.

Last satellite transmission received from MH 370 was at 8:11 am (!). Wow, this is new.

GunpowderPlod 15th Mar 2014 06:50

Breaking: Interpol Looking at 35 Year-Old Uighur Passenger on MH370 ? Trained in Flight Simulation | The Gateway Pundit

steelbranch 15th Mar 2014 06:55

If the last satellite ping was 8:11am local, then do they have position information with that also? I mean, last known position from a satellite fix?

Hard to believe it could land some place else, refuel and take off again without anyone noticing.

I tend to agree with a previous poster who commented that she went to the limit of her fuel and is now in the drink somewhere.

me myself and fly 15th Mar 2014 06:55

‏@beaubaldwin
MH370 is thought to have gone in one of these two directions.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Biv6pD9CAAA0wwW.jpg

bsg 15th Mar 2014 06:56

Main things from the press conference (March 15 - 16:30 ADST):

ACARS turned off before transponder turned off. "Turned off" was the exact words used.

"Satellite" data has been used to confirm that the primary radar returns of what they *thought* was MH370 was indeed MH370, and track went as previously reported - over the Malacca(?) Straight.

No mention of altitude changes.

"Satellite" data (after other comms lost) *cannot* precisely locate the aircraft, but its was in one of two "corridors".

Last comms to satellite was 08:11(?? - many hours after initial course change).

Investigations now re-focusing on crew and PAX (that order). Still looking into everything and anything.

SAR canceled in South China sea. SAR being re-tasked to likely areas.


There was a lot of "international co-operation" talk etc etc. NTSB, FAA + man + goat have access to the data and are all trying to contribute.

One thing about the speech - it was very exact and precise. I watched the ABC24(AU) live stream - they showed the english speech (not sure if there was a Malay version). That speech had been vetted by very technical people. No wiggle room for interpretation.

drop24 15th Mar 2014 06:56


So the aircraft flew in one of these two directions.
There are also reports of it heading south.

GlueBall 15th Mar 2014 06:57


Some posters need to take a step back. There is absolutely a 0% (zero) chance this a/c entered Russian airspace.
Did you forget about the Cessna-172 which was flown unchallenged across former Soviet Air Defense Identification Zone from Helsinki to Moscow, and successfully landed in Red Square? :rolleyes:


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