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Ryanair to cut 3,000 jobs

Old 20th May 2020, 07:38
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Originally Posted by Pilot2/b View Post
Well sorry to say BALPA announced yesterday, 336 jobs to go 185 CPT / 151 FOs
Sorry to hear that. Is that just in the UK or accross the whole group?
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Old 20th May 2020, 07:53
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Seems like just the UK, other countries, other numbers
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Old 20th May 2020, 08:19
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Originally Posted by vikingivesterled View Post
Let's take som quick math to O'Leary's claims that middle seat free is unsustainable.
According to the Ryanair results presentation their average fare is 37 euro. Add 50% and it becomes 55.5 Still below Easyjet's current of 59 according to the same presentation.
It seems more of a pshycological problem for top brass rather than for any real economic reason, that airlines think they should be excempt from the physical distancing that every other business have to put up with.
Some will always persist on squezing the last of capacity out of both materiel and staff, even at the cost of suffering, for others.
If it was possible to bump up fares to 150% and still sell two-thirds of their seats, airlines would have been doing that for years.
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Old 20th May 2020, 11:34
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Sad news in UK about the redundancies.

How are planning the job cuts? Are they using LIFO?
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Old 20th May 2020, 12:37
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
If it was possible to bump up fares to 150% and still sell two-thirds of their seats, airlines would have been doing that for years.
The reason they did not do any such thing was competition existed offering 80% of the price on about 1/3 of their A/C's capacity. Typically this was Ryanair themselves.

I think a larger (as this was hushed at the press release) concern is the ancillary revenues getting a haircut by 1/3 due to smaller pax numbers. Or people not paying at all for the window and aisle seats, as there would be no middle one to run away from, similar for priority boarding etc.
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Old 20th May 2020, 15:10
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
If it was possible to bump up fares to 150% and still sell two-thirds of their seats, airlines would have been doing that for years.
Most would have liked that but due to the Untra Low Cost and LOW Cost carriers, that was impossible.
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Old 20th May 2020, 15:50
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Old 21st May 2020, 21:53
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Unpopular opinion. BALPA have a theme of making things worse in RYR, STN proves that. They’ve weak support within the company as recent strikes pointed out as well.
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Old 21st May 2020, 22:13
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Threatening their Pilots is something RYR is good at.
threatening to change the base,
threatening for pay cuts,
threatening for closing bases,
threatening for delaying upgrades,
threatening for dismissals in case of sickness,

just to mention some...RYR MUST CHANGE !
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Old 22nd May 2020, 08:41
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LaudaMotion is closing the Vienna Base...


Google Translated:

Laudamotion closes base in Vienna on May 29th

Ryanair subsidiary Laudamotion closes its base in Vienna on May 29th. 300 jobs are lost. The union vida had not previously accepted the ultimatum to sign a new collective agreement with significantly lower wages.
Online since today, 10.11 a.m. (Update: 10.11 a.m.)

The vida will “not be blackmailed and will not sign a KV, which with 848 euros net starting salary for flight attendants is clearly below the minimum security in Vienna (917 euros) and even more clearly below the current poverty risk threshold 2019 of 1,259 euros per month for one person” , it was said last of the vida.
Budget airline also criticizes government

"Lauda deeply regrets the loss of more than 300 jobs for the A320 crews and the closure of Lauda's A320 base in Vienna next Friday, May 29th," said Austria's second largest airline on Friday morning. "The VIDA union shamefully ignored the wishes of over 95 percent of the pilots and 70 percent of the cabin crew at Lauda's A320 base in Vienna and destroyed over 300 well-paid jobs."

The low-cost airline "also regrets the inaction of the Austrian government", referring to the fact that the Lufthansa subsidiary AUA should be helped very well in the corona crisis.

Union passed ultimatum

The subsidiary of the Irish low-cost airline had asked the union to sign the KV by the end of Thursday - more on that in Laudamotion provides 24-hour ultimatum. In the event that the union did not sign the changed KV, the company had previously announced that it would register 300 employees with the AMS. The Chamber of Commerce had given its consent to the KV.

Good luck to everyone.

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Old 22nd May 2020, 09:02
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The last time I checked Lauda pilots were already paid significantly less than Ryanair pilots, am I wrong? And now Ryanair will replace them in Vienna?
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Old 22nd May 2020, 09:02
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Very upsetting indeed. My thoughts go to everyone who lost their job in this uneven battle. But, unfortunately, that's been the common way of doing business in RYR even in far better times - take whatever is thrown your way or go East. Any reduction in T&Cs has always been unilateral and with no window for negotiating.

We can only guess how this is going to develop, but it's not looking good for Lauda and their A320 fleet for now. Most likely, it will get entirely axed.

Edit: It's now even more likely that the faith of Lauda is sealed as plans for a base in Zadar get cancelled.

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