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Adambrau 1st May 2020 06:39

Ryanair to cut 3,000 jobs
 
And on it goes.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...risis-11981526

kpd 1st May 2020 07:59

O Leary predictions for the industry
 

Originally Posted by Adambrau (Post 10769065)


O Leary prediction for the industry -" Ryanair said its flights will remain grounded until "at least July" and passenger numbers will not return to 2019 levels "until summer 2022 at the earliest".

Livesinafield 1st May 2020 09:32


Originally Posted by kpd (Post 10769145)
O Leary prediction for the industry -" Ryanair said its flights will remain grounded until "at least July" and passenger numbers will not return to 2019 levels "until summer 2022 at the earliest".

For once I agree with O'Leary, think hes got that spot on, how some airlines think there is going to be any demand for air travel this year I do not know.

MCDU2 1st May 2020 10:09

Click bait, change the title. You missed the "Up to". Most aren't his employees anyway and are employed through intermediaries. Its like when he opens a new base and the magic number is up to 1,000 new jobs to be created. These magic new jobs have never been quantified as far as I can see.

BoeingLudo737 1st May 2020 10:27


Originally Posted by MCDU2 (Post 10769283)
Click bait, change the title. You missed the "Up to". Most aren't his employees anyway and are employed through intermediaries. Its like when he opens a new base and the magic number is up to 1,000 new jobs to be created. These magic new jobs have never been quantified as far as I can see.

1000 new jobs created refers to direct and indirect jobs i.e. airport staff so on and so forth.

macdo 1st May 2020 10:31

Also threatening to shut Lauda Vienna base unless staff take pay cut and new T&C's.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/ry...101413052.html

Superpilot 1st May 2020 11:24

Everyone promise yourselves now. When this is all over, you will not settle for a penny less than what you were being paid as of January 2020!

I fear this is MOL's 'why should they be paid so much, they're just glorified bus drivers' moment.

Contact Approach 1st May 2020 11:43


Originally Posted by Superpilot (Post 10769371)
Everyone promise yourselves now. When this is all over, you will not settle for a penny less than what you were being paid as of January 2020!

I fear this is MOL's 'why should they be paid so much, they're just glorified bus drivers' moment.

If only! I've found a large % of those joining RYR will sacrifice themselves for next to nothing just to fly the shiny jet. It really is this industries downfall. Lemmings...

hec7or 1st May 2020 11:44


Originally Posted by Superpilot (Post 10769371)
Everyone promise yourselves now. When this is all over, you will not settle for a penny less than what you were being paid as of January 2020!

Valid point, but who will define " when this is all over"? Will it be when a vaccine is rolled out or when Social Distancing ends or when the economy recovers?

Superpilot 1st May 2020 12:25

When this is all over = when social distancing measures are completely relaxed for air travel. And, though we love to accuse those at the bottom of the ladder of taking up any old offer, the reality is not always quite so. Besides, that's for those on the top end of the ladder to address and ensure!

BoeingLudo737 1st May 2020 12:47


Originally Posted by Contact Approach (Post 10769394)
If only! I've found a large % of those joining RYR will sacrifice themselves for next to nothing just to fly the shiny jet. It really is this industries downfall. Lemmings...

You should be ashamed of yourself and banned from this forum.

eiffel 1st May 2020 13:08

Do we have details by categories for these 3000 job losses? (FD, CC, ….) What is the split between mainline and Buzz?

Airbubba 1st May 2020 13:56


Originally Posted by eiffel (Post 10769474)
Do we have details by categories for these 3000 job losses? (FD, CC, ….) What is the split between mainline and Buzz?

From today's memo:

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b611c45cf4.jpg

PilotLZ 1st May 2020 18:10

I have a sneaky feeling that this is a step towards the "old" employment model of RYR, when only the highest-standing TRE, TRI etc had direct contracts with the company. Now's the opportunity to axe the majority of direct contracts, hence get rid of pretty much everyone who gets a base salary, regardless actual flight time. And then, as demand picks up, everyone will be hired on a zero-hour contract with a reduced hourly rate. Quite possible, I think.

Sqwak7700 2nd May 2020 02:36


Everyone promise yourselves now. When this is all over, you will not settle for a penny less than what you were being paid as of January 2020!
Thats like telling a man stranded in the dessert that if he comes across a person Offering water, he should refuse unless it is Evian. You are funny.

Might want to brush up on understanding supply and demand. The coming years are gonna be reeeeeeeeaaaaly tough for people of your mind set.

OMAAbound 2nd May 2020 06:43


Originally Posted by Superpilot (Post 10769371)
Everyone promise yourselves now. When this is all over, you will not settle for a penny less than what you were being paid as of January 2020!

I fear this is MOL's 'why should they be paid so much, they're just glorified bus drivers' moment.

Many people, I and most likely yourself included, will have a different opinion on this when the mortgage company are banging on the door wanting the house back!

The Simple answer is ‘Supply and Demand’

OMAA

Tommy Gavin 2nd May 2020 06:47

Is it 3000 actual jobs or does it also include the self employed work group?

fab777 2nd May 2020 07:53


Originally Posted by midnight cruiser (Post 10769421)
, once the state aid crack cocaine wears off. Karma to you CA.

Ryanair living mostly on subsidies from local communities and fee returns from airports, that is a funny comment.

lederhosen 2nd May 2020 11:46

Using a rough metric of five crews per short haul aircraft that sounds like about a reduction of 100 planes from a fleet of 450. This is in the same ball park percentage wise as BA's announcement of 12,000 redundancies. So two big players are saying they expect to be operating at around 75% the previous level, once things start up again. Obviously this is a best guess as nobody has any idea what things will look like post lockdown. Given the possibility of little or no foreign tourism for the rest of the year and curtailed business travel this might even be a bit optimistic in the short term.

wisecaptain 2nd May 2020 12:43

So with Union recognition in RYR , how will they implement LIFO with all the different bases ?
Im guessing with base closures there will be by seniority, a lot of base re-allocation and commuting required so as to keep the seniority system intact.
Will RYR honour seniority bearing in mind the importance of losing your job ??


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