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Ryanair to cut 3,000 jobs

Old 1st May 2020, 06:39
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Ryanair to cut 3,000 jobs

And on it goes.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...risis-11981526
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Old 1st May 2020, 07:59
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O Leary predictions for the industry

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O Leary prediction for the industry -" Ryanair said its flights will remain grounded until "at least July" and passenger numbers will not return to 2019 levels "until summer 2022 at the earliest".
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Old 1st May 2020, 09:32
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O Leary prediction for the industry -" Ryanair said its flights will remain grounded until "at least July" and passenger numbers will not return to 2019 levels "until summer 2022 at the earliest".
For once I agree with O'Leary, think hes got that spot on, how some airlines think there is going to be any demand for air travel this year I do not know.
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Old 1st May 2020, 10:09
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Click bait, change the title. You missed the "Up to". Most aren't his employees anyway and are employed through intermediaries. Its like when he opens a new base and the magic number is up to 1,000 new jobs to be created. These magic new jobs have never been quantified as far as I can see.
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Click bait, change the title. You missed the "Up to". Most aren't his employees anyway and are employed through intermediaries. Its like when he opens a new base and the magic number is up to 1,000 new jobs to be created. These magic new jobs have never been quantified as far as I can see.
1000 new jobs created refers to direct and indirect jobs i.e. airport staff so on and so forth.
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Old 1st May 2020, 10:31
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Also threatening to shut Lauda Vienna base unless staff take pay cut and new T&C's.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/ry...101413052.html
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Old 1st May 2020, 11:24
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Everyone promise yourselves now. When this is all over, you will not settle for a penny less than what you were being paid as of January 2020!

I fear this is MOL's 'why should they be paid so much, they're just glorified bus drivers' moment.
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Old 1st May 2020, 11:43
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Everyone promise yourselves now. When this is all over, you will not settle for a penny less than what you were being paid as of January 2020!

I fear this is MOL's 'why should they be paid so much, they're just glorified bus drivers' moment.
If only! I've found a large % of those joining RYR will sacrifice themselves for next to nothing just to fly the shiny jet. It really is this industries downfall. Lemmings...
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Old 1st May 2020, 11:44
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Everyone promise yourselves now. When this is all over, you will not settle for a penny less than what you were being paid as of January 2020!
Valid point, but who will define " when this is all over"? Will it be when a vaccine is rolled out or when Social Distancing ends or when the economy recovers?
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If only! I've found a large % of those joining RYR will sacrifice themselves for next to nothing just to fly the shiny jet. It really is this industries downfall. Lemmings...
I suspect you couldn't find your arse with both hands. I don't know your definition of"next to nothing" but my €140,000 starting salary seemed a bit more than nothing, and ryr contract FO/DEFO/SFIs did ok too, but I'm sure Ryanair will get over it if your don't ever come crawling to them for a job when you're laid off, once the state aid crack cocaine wears off. Karma to you CA.
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Old 1st May 2020, 12:25
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When this is all over = when social distancing measures are completely relaxed for air travel. And, though we love to accuse those at the bottom of the ladder of taking up any old offer, the reality is not always quite so. Besides, that's for those on the top end of the ladder to address and ensure!
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If only! I've found a large % of those joining RYR will sacrifice themselves for next to nothing just to fly the shiny jet. It really is this industries downfall. Lemmings...
You should be ashamed of yourself and banned from this forum.
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Old 1st May 2020, 13:08
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Do we have details by categories for these 3000 job losses? (FD, CC, ….) What is the split between mainline and Buzz?
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Old 1st May 2020, 13:56
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Do we have details by categories for these 3000 job losses? (FD, CC, ….) What is the split between mainline and Buzz?
From today's memo:


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Old 1st May 2020, 18:10
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I have a sneaky feeling that this is a step towards the "old" employment model of RYR, when only the highest-standing TRE, TRI etc had direct contracts with the company. Now's the opportunity to axe the majority of direct contracts, hence get rid of pretty much everyone who gets a base salary, regardless actual flight time. And then, as demand picks up, everyone will be hired on a zero-hour contract with a reduced hourly rate. Quite possible, I think.
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Old 2nd May 2020, 02:36
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Everyone promise yourselves now. When this is all over, you will not settle for a penny less than what you were being paid as of January 2020!
Thats like telling a man stranded in the dessert that if he comes across a person Offering water, he should refuse unless it is Evian. You are funny.

Might want to brush up on understanding supply and demand. The coming years are gonna be reeeeeeeeaaaaly tough for people of your mind set.
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Old 2nd May 2020, 06:43
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Originally Posted by Superpilot View Post
Everyone promise yourselves now. When this is all over, you will not settle for a penny less than what you were being paid as of January 2020!

I fear this is MOL's 'why should they be paid so much, they're just glorified bus drivers' moment.
Many people, I and most likely yourself included, will have a different opinion on this when the mortgage company are banging on the door wanting the house back!

The Simple answer is ‘Supply and Demand’

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Old 2nd May 2020, 06:47
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Is it 3000 actual jobs or does it also include the self employed work group?
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Old 2nd May 2020, 07:53
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, once the state aid crack cocaine wears off. Karma to you CA.
Ryanair living mostly on subsidies from local communities and fee returns from airports, that is a funny comment.
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Old 2nd May 2020, 11:46
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Using a rough metric of five crews per short haul aircraft that sounds like about a reduction of 100 planes from a fleet of 450. This is in the same ball park percentage wise as BA's announcement of 12,000 redundancies. So two big players are saying they expect to be operating at around 75% the previous level, once things start up again. Obviously this is a best guess as nobody has any idea what things will look like post lockdown. Given the possibility of little or no foreign tourism for the rest of the year and curtailed business travel this might even be a bit optimistic in the short term.
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