Ryanair pilot strike
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This strike is not going well for the Pilots. They are barely making an impact. Occassional 10% cancelled flights with most passengers being accommodated is not enough to crush the will of the opponent.
The opponent is making it appear that they are the good guy who is prioritising families ahead of business travellers to the UK as a result of the pilot strike.
Pilots here might not see it like that but that is how it looks to the passengers.
The opponent is making it appear that they are the good guy who is prioritising families ahead of business travellers to the UK as a result of the pilot strike.
Pilots here might not see it like that but that is how it looks to the passengers.
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This strike is not going well for the Pilots. They are barely making an impact. Occassional 10% cancelled flights with most passengers being accommodated is not enough to crush the will of the opponent.
The opponent is making it appear that they are the good guy who is prioritising families ahead of business travellers to the UK as a result of the pilot strike.
Pilots here might not see it like that but that is how it looks to the passengers.
The opponent is making it appear that they are the good guy who is prioritising families ahead of business travellers to the UK as a result of the pilot strike.
Pilots here might not see it like that but that is how it looks to the passengers.
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I do think Ryanair paid less respect to Cabin Crew's ability to organise than Pilots or maybe Ryanair are just so cheap that they wouldn't invest in avoiding cabin crew strikes until the strikes actually hit.
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Ryanair seem to be heading for a showdown with the CAA due to a clash over compensation payments caused by the strikes.
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“UK law far behind...”. Definitely! Proved by the outrageous decision to allow British Airways to use Qatar Airways (whose crews would have faced deportation or imprisonment if they’d refused!) to break their cabin crew strike. Even that didn’t work. Full credit to B A cabin crew who stuck it out!
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Would I be a bit of a cynic if I see these strikes as 'useful' for saving up pilots' flying hours to avoid the problems of last September? In other words, a few bits of disjointed disruption now is better than that big disruption in September.
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A bit of disjointed disruption at the busiest time of year? Doesn't really sound plausible.
What I suggest is happening, is Ryanair having failed to grasp the seriousness of the situation, and the resolve of their cabin- and cockpit crews. They've publicly said they'll acknowledge unions, but not any union. Particularly, Ryanair doesn't seem to recognise any existing unions. Since then all they've done is give staff a song and a dance, trying to stall for as long as possible hoping it'll all go away.
What I suggest is happening, is Ryanair having failed to grasp the seriousness of the situation, and the resolve of their cabin- and cockpit crews. They've publicly said they'll acknowledge unions, but not any union. Particularly, Ryanair doesn't seem to recognise any existing unions. Since then all they've done is give staff a song and a dance, trying to stall for as long as possible hoping it'll all go away.
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A bit of disjointed disruption at the busiest time of year? Doesn't really sound plausible.
What I suggest is happening, is Ryanair having failed to grasp the seriousness of the situation, and the resolve of their cabin- and cockpit crews. They've publicly said they'll acknowledge unions, but not any union. Particularly, Ryanair doesn't seem to recognise any existing unions. Since then all they've done is give staff a song and a dance, trying to stall for as long as possible hoping it'll all go away.
What I suggest is happening, is Ryanair having failed to grasp the seriousness of the situation, and the resolve of their cabin- and cockpit crews. They've publicly said they'll acknowledge unions, but not any union. Particularly, Ryanair doesn't seem to recognise any existing unions. Since then all they've done is give staff a song and a dance, trying to stall for as long as possible hoping it'll all go away.
They will turn themselves inside out doing everything, then finally having exhausted all other options, do the right thing...
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If Ryanair Management sees forward bookings begin to struggle then they might change strategy but that hasn't happened so far.
I'm not seeing the motivator in either financial or legal terms which compels Ryanair Management to genuinely embrace the Unions if at all.
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I'm not seeing the motivator in either financial or legal terms which compels Ryanair Management to genuinely embrace the Unions if at all.
as for.........
Chief Executive Michael O’Leary said he expected more strikes during the summer “as we are not prepared to concede to unreasonable demands that will compromise either our low fares or our highly efficient model.
He also warned staff of possible job losses if strikes went on.
He also warned staff of possible job losses if strikes went on.
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Ryanair warns Dutch passengers to claim compensation directl
Ryanair is now threatening a claim-buro in the Netherlands with legal action.
It will ‘take all necessary measures’ to protect the contractual relationship with its passengers.
Ryanair is now threatening a claim-buro in the Netherlands with legal action.
It will ‘take all necessary measures’ to protect the contractual relationship with its passengers.
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https://www.rte.ie/news/business/201...r-dublin-cuts/
O Leary and his bullyboys showing their true colours.
It would be great if the Board decided that the Job cuts began at the very top.
Time for all Ryanair staff to stand up to these bully’s .
O Leary and his bullyboys showing their true colours.
It would be great if the Board decided that the Job cuts began at the very top.
Time for all Ryanair staff to stand up to these bully’s .
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Sky Reporting the following:
Ryanair has taken the unusual step of publishing staff pay and benefit details online as workers for the airline stage strikes.
The budget airline hit back at Irish pilots staging a third 24-hour strike over working conditions.
Ryanair posted details on its website of pilots' monthly and annual salaries, which included captains from Ireland, the UK, Belgium, Germany and Portugal.
The airline claimed the pilots earned between €190,000 and €220,000 (£169,000 and £195,000) year.
Not about money then I'd guess?
Ryanair has taken the unusual step of publishing staff pay and benefit details online as workers for the airline stage strikes.
The budget airline hit back at Irish pilots staging a third 24-hour strike over working conditions.
Ryanair posted details on its website of pilots' monthly and annual salaries, which included captains from Ireland, the UK, Belgium, Germany and Portugal.
The airline claimed the pilots earned between €190,000 and €220,000 (£169,000 and £195,000) year.
Not about money then I'd guess?
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Given Ryanair have posted the wage slips details of the earnings that various captains earn at various different bases in different countries, would it not also be a good idea to reveal (other than the Basic) the Social and PAYE headings also, just to clarify?. I am interested to know what the other (second) largest amount is on each payslip. If you look purely at the Basic salary, then it's less than other operator's Command salaries for equivalent fleet position and size in the main. The bulk of salary is made up of something else (pre-tax?), and also - what position in Ryanair do these individuals hold? Base Captains? Directors of some sort? or just ordinary line pilots?.
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Dublin reduction!
Good Morning
And the plot thickens!
According newspaper Rte.ie Ryanair has told them that this winter it reduces the Dublin based aircraft from 30 to 25.
100 pilots and 200 cabin crew has been given notice of temporary redundancy and an offer to transfer to Poland this winter.
Union busting on a high level!
Not sure the timing is right.
Correction , : I am sure the timing is NOT right.
Time to dust off that old CV, me thinks.
Regards
Cpt B
And the plot thickens!
According newspaper Rte.ie Ryanair has told them that this winter it reduces the Dublin based aircraft from 30 to 25.
100 pilots and 200 cabin crew has been given notice of temporary redundancy and an offer to transfer to Poland this winter.
Union busting on a high level!
Not sure the timing is right.
Correction , : I am sure the timing is NOT right.
Time to dust off that old CV, me thinks.
Regards
Cpt B
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Low-cost end of the market in any industry is notoriously sensitive, pax don't fly ryanair because they like them, they put up with ryanair because it does the job at a low price, the minute it stops doing the job or having lowest price, the pax will be gone. Ryanair doesn't do frequent-flyer-miles or airport-lounges, if you have a bad flight there isn't anywhere to upgrade you to on the next one, and MOL will happily leave pax stranded without assistance or EU261 compensation. Every time that happens it's at least one pax lost, for a long time.
MOL doesn't care of course, plenty of work for his planes elsewhere in the EU, apparently, and the crew of course provided they want to transfer to another EU country with the same standards of EU law and judicial independence (*cough*)...
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The Irish Independent has more details of Ryanair's latest moves, here:
Ryanair has today written to over 300 employees warning them that their services may not be required from October 28.
The protective notice to staff has been issued after the board took the decision to cut its Dublin-based fleet by 20pc for the winter.
Over 100 pilots and 200 cabin crew employees will be affected by Ryanair’s decision to cut its Dublin fleet to 24 from 30 for the winter period.
The low-fares airline said that the decision had been driven by the rapid growth of its Polish charter airline, allied to a down turn in forward bookings and airfares in Ireland, which it said was "partly as a result of recent rolling strikes by Irish pilots."
The airline said that the strikes had resulted in consumer confidence in the reliability of its Irish flight schedules being disturbed.
The protective notice to staff has been issued after the board took the decision to cut its Dublin-based fleet by 20pc for the winter.
Over 100 pilots and 200 cabin crew employees will be affected by Ryanair’s decision to cut its Dublin fleet to 24 from 30 for the winter period.
The low-fares airline said that the decision had been driven by the rapid growth of its Polish charter airline, allied to a down turn in forward bookings and airfares in Ireland, which it said was "partly as a result of recent rolling strikes by Irish pilots."
The airline said that the strikes had resulted in consumer confidence in the reliability of its Irish flight schedules being disturbed.
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"Temporary redundancy" in other words unpaid leave over the winter reserving the right to call you back when we need you --on our terms. They know winter is the soft season for recruitment and most guys would need 3 months to get a job and would probably choose to stay but loose the pay.. Let me guess.. if you've been on strike you run the risk of being a target! Perhaps the crews can shaft them by offering a "job share" spread the pain amongst the brethren and avoid the need for "reductions"
