Malaysian Airlines MH370 contact lost
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susier, how the radar plot was constructed I don't know.
If it had been a snap-shot then there would have been many different contacts shown.
Instead it was a clean plot showing a succession of plots for just MH370. It was this plot that was shown to the Chinese relatives.
I would speculate that it was a computer generated plot showing the historic plot rather than an image from the radar system.
If it had been a snap-shot then there would have been many different contacts shown.
Instead it was a clean plot showing a succession of plots for just MH370. It was this plot that was shown to the Chinese relatives.
I would speculate that it was a computer generated plot showing the historic plot rather than an image from the radar system.

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Two Things
1. The PLOT showed to the chinese families is quite old and has already been disavowed by malaysian authorities. so just forget it. The plane went northeast and made a left turn to a heading that has not been released, but generally in the direction of the thai/malay border (imho shortest way to an airport).
2. LANDING GEAR DOOR...you heard it here first.
2. LANDING GEAR DOOR...you heard it here first.

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glen different plot.
The one with the 270 deg RIGHT turn was a track plot. The one to which I refer is a different radar plot and was not a simple computer plot. It first surfaced via a photograph of the radar plot at a Chinese family briefing. The same plot was subsequently released by the Malaysians with Reuters as one source.
This radar plot is the one showing the last trace at 295/200 together with all the RPs and various FIR and sub region boundaries.
The one with the 270 deg RIGHT turn was a track plot. The one to which I refer is a different radar plot and was not a simple computer plot. It first surfaced via a photograph of the radar plot at a Chinese family briefing. The same plot was subsequently released by the Malaysians with Reuters as one source.
This radar plot is the one showing the last trace at 295/200 together with all the RPs and various FIR and sub region boundaries.

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debris...
Speculating (its more likely a boat part)...but Alloy/fiberglass ???GLARE cargo floor debris??? Would likely be one part that could have enough impact strength to not break into a million smaller bits...

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"Unidentified material that washed ashore in Australia and is being examined for any link to the lost Malaysian plane is unlikely to have come from the jet, an official revealed today.
The Australian Transport Safety Bureau had been scrutinising photos of the object, which washed ashore six miles east of Augusta in Western Australia state.
But Martin Dolan, chief commissioner of the bureau, said an initial analysis of the material - which appeared to be sheet metal with rivets - suggested it was not from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370".
Missing Malaysia Airlines plane: Sheet metal that washed ashore in Australia is NOT wreckage from MH370 | Mail Online
The Australian Transport Safety Bureau had been scrutinising photos of the object, which washed ashore six miles east of Augusta in Western Australia state.
But Martin Dolan, chief commissioner of the bureau, said an initial analysis of the material - which appeared to be sheet metal with rivets - suggested it was not from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370".
Missing Malaysia Airlines plane: Sheet metal that washed ashore in Australia is NOT wreckage from MH370 | Mail Online

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can you post the radar track and or plot of which you speak. I would like to see it. I just haven't seen the one you are talking about, I am not doubting you.
When you see 10 tons of BS, its easy to miss one tiny diamond!
can you post the radar track and or plot of which you speak. I would like to see it. I just haven't seen the one you are talking about, I am not doubting you.
When you see 10 tons of BS, its easy to miss one tiny diamond!

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Washed up scrap on beach - ATSB do not believe to be related
Just for anyone looking for images of what washed up and is deemed unrelated at this stage by the ATSB:


Repeat : DEEMED NOT RELATED so don't go crazy with guessing which part of the aircraft it was from :-)
Source: Debris from missing MH370 could wash up on WA coast: expert


Repeat : DEEMED NOT RELATED so don't go crazy with guessing which part of the aircraft it was from :-)
Source: Debris from missing MH370 could wash up on WA coast: expert

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Just for anyone looking for images of what washed up and is deemed unrelated at this stage by the ATSB:


Repeat : DEEMED NOT RELATED so don't go crazy with guessing which part of the aircraft it was from :-)
Source: Debris from missing MH370 could wash up on WA coast: expert


Repeat : DEEMED NOT RELATED so don't go crazy with guessing which part of the aircraft it was from :-)
Source: Debris from missing MH370 could wash up on WA coast: expert

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Picture of debris
Debris from missing MH370 could wash up on WA coast: expert
Where did you get the picture from? I can't find it in the article.
Where did you get the picture from? I can't find it in the article.

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Given your handle you must have a pretty good idea yourself.

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Spot on with your assessment. Look at the fasteners and the foam; this is not anything I have seen on an aircraft.
Note that there is a centroid in each of the fasteners; this is not a pop or hylock used on a aircraft. Given the location its not from a truck!
Spot on with your assessment. Look at the fasteners and the foam; this is not anything I have seen on an aircraft.
Note that there is a centroid in each of the fasteners; this is not a pop or hylock used on a aircraft. Given the location its not from a truck!

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Why is so much information being withheld in this case?
Is it simply because a lot of it is military and might reveal areas of missing radar coverage?
Is it reasonable to suppose all the radar data has been made available for the search, under an NDA? I read somewhere that Indonesia has been totally uncooperative.
Also I can't understand why any of the multiple weather satellites would not have picked up contrails. Unless the answer is that the aircraft flew low enough to not make them, in which case the search area is much too far south. But then what to make of the pingers? One really would hope that the frequency picked up was not 32.768Hz
Is it simply because a lot of it is military and might reveal areas of missing radar coverage?
Is it reasonable to suppose all the radar data has been made available for the search, under an NDA? I read somewhere that Indonesia has been totally uncooperative.
Also I can't understand why any of the multiple weather satellites would not have picked up contrails. Unless the answer is that the aircraft flew low enough to not make them, in which case the search area is much too far south. But then what to make of the pingers? One really would hope that the frequency picked up was not 32.768Hz


Why No Contrails Detected?
Also I can't understand why any of the multiple weather satellites would not have picked up contrails.

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One really would hope that the frequency picked up was not 32.768Hz

'Contrails are very narrow and probably outside the definition as seen by weather satellites.'
No, see here, a very clear con trail within the current search area, from 11th March. (EOSDIS website)
No, see here, a very clear con trail within the current search area, from 11th March. (EOSDIS website)
