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SIA 777 off the rwy at EDDM

Old 6th Nov 2011, 00:03
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ETOPS777 - YOUR ENGLISH IS ATROCIOUS

I hope your airman-ship is better
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 01:18
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Cresmer

Thanks for your comment.

You do not need to worried about my ability to converse in English. As with my airmanship, that won't be your worries either.

Airmanship and language ability are 2 different things dude! So with what your saying is it only people from an English speaking country knows how to fly airplane?? Dude, if that's your perception then you have a long way to go

What a shame

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Old 6th Nov 2011, 04:14
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Can't argue with anything that has to do with singapore or singaporeans. nasty place where the top will always blame the bottom. And when you arguie with them all they can say is leave leave....
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 04:46
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Sour Grapes

This thread is not about Singapore, or Singaporeans.

Bashing the people,country and the Airline is only reflective of yourself torque. Sounds like sour grapes to me- im assuming you lost your job with SQ? sob sob.

p.s torque- heres your post 25TH JUNE 2009

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Don't worry. Singapore airlines is one of the best in the world. Pilots are great. I fly regularly around the region and trust me you have nothing to worry about. Relax!
I just got back from Manila a few days ago, nasty TS around, cathay crew were great flying around those CB's.
Thank you guys!!!)



inconsistency is akin to ignorance and shallowness.
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 05:07
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language

Cresmer - looks like you are the Authority on the English language.

heres your post from 23rd june 2011
"Wrong wrong wrong!
Listen to the tapes, as I have. The ATC's English is atrocious. Note how BA carefully and slowly repeat what ATC have uttered."

That was your post on JFK s atc .
Its time to Drop the British Colonial attitude . The English language has nothing to do with Airmanship and your comment to Etops only shows your arrogance and ignorance.

This thread is about the Munich Incident and not for pompous individuals like yourself -Cresmer - who cant resist from spewing your British arrogance.
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 05:29
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This thread has drifted into personal attacks and 'knocking' SQ, can we get back to, maybe, reasoned discussion of the technical aspects of what "might" have happened - if that is what you want, which is all we can possibly do at the moment - if we can't wait for the FACTS.
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Guess I'm wasting my time ?

Enjoy yourselves. ( there's a Microlight to be flown, much more fun. )

Goodbye.
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 05:51
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Mr ETOPS777
Was there not an SQ incident in AKL you forgot to mention.
How many people have SQ killed compared to the airlines
you have so blithly grouped as being equal to or worse than SQ.
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 05:53
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I guess we are..... How sad.

Awaiting some positive discussions / speculations. Would be much better than watching anti SQ sentiments and publications of false facts about their training information.
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 06:06
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well said

Totally agree with you Sinka 744
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 06:33
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Well you know what they say about brits........ the greatest asset they possess is ... the english language.
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 07:03
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I have to say, too many, have too much to grind and understandably, against an Airline that somehow doing extremely well utilizing their very own ab initial system. The city state Airline is clearly not for everyone, but did win considerably a fair bit of admirations worldwide.

So far, no factual posting has been made, only a clear picture of runway excursion. Shouldn't we at least wait for final findings before the bashing begins?

As for the quality of SIA's pilots, I very much doubt that they are as bad as some posters claimed them to be. I had flown with couple of their chaps here in the sandpit with my previous fleet and I will fly with them anytime again. And seriously, enough with the language policing. If he gets the points across, I say that's good enough for me. We don't really know how many languages some of these blokes do command and English is probably the fourth or fifth down the list.
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 07:03
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Smile Incident or test?

Looking at the photo, was this really an incident, or were they perhaps executing the Elk (Moose) Test?
(For which the automotive industry now has a solution. For aircraft, perhaps this.)

Although EDDM would be a strange choice of location for that...



Seriously, what can have been their residual speed, for the gear to survive those turns, and no wing strike(s) happening?
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 07:57
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Ghoti, ghoughphtheightteeau, tiogh.

Try to figure it out for yourselves...

And now let's go back to the topic!
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 09:09
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senseless argument

Past few post are prime examples of senseless bickering.

Hope none of these blokes are 'real'
Airline captains.
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 09:15
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How long does it usually take for the reports to be announced for an incident like this?
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 09:27
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There is no fixed timeline. It depends how many diffrent Authorities are involved and how effective they work together to find the real cause despite the fact that the finding is not pleasant. One of the biggest problems is that those findings are usualy taken later to "activate" the lawyer to claim back the losses. Now go and find out who want´s to take the blame.

A partially or early version of such a incident can be found shortly in such a process, two weeks later the direction should be found and then evaluated.

Final report, maybe under the Christmas tree in 2012....

Fly safe and land happy

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Old 6th Nov 2011, 09:44
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Care to elaborate what is so senseless about my posting?
I assume when you said "past few posts", and being 2 postings prior, I fell into your accusation?
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 10:23
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SIA IN A PARADIGM SHIFT

many postings have come on after this incident.

SIA is now experiencing a paradigm shift in its core business.majority of the singaporeans are vulnerable to change many stay within their comfort zone as a result of this.they are reluctant to experience adventure.

their idea of adventure is to go to a mall and have a poor sense of humour.money is king....thats all they know and talk and whereever they go it is soup noodle.

their training is a direct reflection of this social behavior. the photo by freightdog is a clear result of expecting the AP to handle everything and all is well. many in this forum had mentioned about their CAT2/3 training which is a joke just a formality.genuine appreciation for automation is not discussed just routine.

SIA is so vulnerable now that it has down graded the service to SCOOT to harness the growing budget sector.

you should fly with some of the new F/O, their line training starts with you.
basic requirement to fly to CAT1 in CAT 1 weather is a serious challenge for these lads.read my previous postings this incident was the result of this complacency.

each of you are entitled to your opinion and i am not interested if you agree with me or not but i have mentioned the facts which are hard on some of the locals and readers.
but the truth hurts........sorry lah!

fly safe !!!!
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 10:38
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"this incident was the result of this complacency."

Great! No need for an investigation. CJ in his almightiness has concluded it already. Let's close this thread and wait for next accident/incident so he can show us his supremacy...
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 10:49
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Ontopic

If there is still somebody interested in an ontopic posts, well I'll give it one more try (yes, long before the official report is out). It looks to me that the AC came to a halt in around 1500 meters of rwy (and a bit of grass). Apart from the hefty tail swing during the final S-maneuver, deceleration must also have been impressive, especially the sideways deceleration on the last bit rwy crossing. As already stated:
Originally Posted by alph2z
I'm impressed with the tire and MG design
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