Plane Down in Hudson River - NYC
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Using a bullhorn to tell the people to wait for the ferry might not have accomplished much. Maybe the logbook while he was waiting would verify the aircraft was legal for that departure. Once they are standing on the wing I don't know what the captain could do to help them before boarding the boats. Did Sully know at that time he was a hero, not someone who would have to defend himself?
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the bullhorn wouldhave been used to communicate and coordinate with the rescuers...indeed, sully stated he was trying to communicate with the boats to ''get the people on the wings first''.
the last thing I would worry about is whether the paperwork was right
the last thing I would worry about is whether the paperwork was right
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I accept your superior personal hygiene routine! Professionals should think "what if" all the time. I've flown all over the world (including over 3 years based in the US) and I recognize Capt Sully as a true professional. I was merely observing that, from an airport with limited options he chose the right one, stuck to his decision and pulled off an amazing feat of airmanship. Perhaps he had considered his course of action in the shower!
I guess he wanted to write up the snag?
Having left the aeroplane after a major event, the first question I was asked by management, was where was the Voyage Report - in the Medias' hands ?
Ye canna be too carrrreful.
Good thinking, Hoskins.
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Back in 1977 when a Southern Airways DC-9 had a dual flameout from hail and landed on a road - within gliding distance of at least one airport - glide ratios and best glide speeds of twinjets were never even discussed, as they were too improbable. Many pilots had no real idea of their mounts' glide potential. Some even became testy when I asked.
Further, Atlanta ATC assumed they had lost two of their three engines, and continued routine handling of their flight.
GB
Further, Atlanta ATC assumed they had lost two of their three engines, and continued routine handling of their flight.
GB
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Back in 1977 when a Southern Airways DC-9 had a dual flameout from hail ............ Atlanta ATC assumed they had lost two of their three engines, and continued routine handling of their flight.
Further, Atlanta ATC assumed they had lost two of their three engines, and continued routine handling of their flight.
The CVR does not confirm this and I don't recall this coming up in the Public hearing.
arguably the ATC handling sounded routine although helpful to all requests. "you've got our squawk on emergency?... I'm not receiving it but radar contact position is ..."
"allright listen we have lost both engines and I can't tell you the implications of this we've only got two engines and how far is Dobins ...."
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Originally Posted by Graybeard
Back in 1977 when a Southern Airways DC-9 had a dual flameout from hail and landed on a road - within gliding distance of at least one airport - glide ratios and best glide speeds of twinjets were never even discussed, as they were too improbable. Many pilots had no real idea of their mounts' glide potential. Some even became testy when I asked.
Further, Atlanta ATC assumed they had lost two of their three engines, and continued routine handling of their flight.
Further, Atlanta ATC assumed they had lost two of their three engines, and continued routine handling of their flight.
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FYI, TLC (The Learning Channel) had a show on tonight (they'll probably run it again) called "Brace for Impact" talking about the crash - showed Sully looking at the remains of the plane wherever it is in storage. All things considered, the damage really doesn't appear that bad, especially considering some of that damage was probably done getting it out of the water and transporting it.
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The program is available online:
Brace for Impact: Brace For Impact : Video : TLC
It is one hour long, and most of it was fluff. Captain Sully says he made a "mayday" call in the program. Hard to remeber and I do not feel like pouring through this thread, but didn't we give a lot of discussion to the fact that there was no formal mayday call? (Maybe I have this wrong!?)
Brace for Impact: Brace For Impact : Video : TLC
It is one hour long, and most of it was fluff. Captain Sully says he made a "mayday" call in the program. Hard to remeber and I do not feel like pouring through this thread, but didn't we give a lot of discussion to the fact that there was no formal mayday call? (Maybe I have this wrong!?)
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darn, was looking forward to watching it later too. (couldn't find it here in the hotel)
I'm so tired of these programs that dumb everything down like we're all a bunch of idiots. And then recap everything they just said previously after the last commercial break. No wonder I channel surf!
BTW, couldn't find anything but the trailer online.
Cheers
I'm so tired of these programs that dumb everything down like we're all a bunch of idiots. And then recap everything they just said previously after the last commercial break. No wonder I channel surf!
BTW, couldn't find anything but the trailer online.
Cheers