Ryanair Loss of Pressurisation 25th Aug
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I wonder how it would have been reported if the livery had 'British' written on it.......
It got the coverage because a couple of mouthy individuals were on board including that ass Hedow who has made a complete plonker of himself.
Frankly in the oxygen mask case. I never heard of an issue with it before. All I know is that if they deploy. I put the nearest one on. The technicalities are lost on me. The lack of any communication from the flight deck would imply to me that they were a tad busy and that this was an emergency. All pretty obvious. I would have thought, unless, apparently, you are well travelled polar explorer. Who quite frankly seems to have all but panicked. Then compounded it by mouthing off to the BBC.
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Just posted on Hedows website. That feels better
Sir,
You describe yourself as a leader of men in hostile enviroments. Following your comments on the RYR incident God help your men.
I suggest you do some research before critising the crew who saved your life following drills to the letter.I hope you take greater care in knowing your emergency equipment for your upcoming expedition than you did during the safety brief on that aircraft. If you have any emergencies on your upcoming trip can we expect a "piece to camera" while you plummet into a crevass, or will you just be saving your ass.
I would also suggest you research the possibility of securing a refund for your private education.
I have never heard such a load of self opinionated tosh from an alleged "leader of men".
At least Bear Grylys is silly to the point of amusing.You are just an ill informed egocentric snob and a victim of your own bull****. I hope to God you never held a Queens commission because you confuse leadership with arrogance
Sir,
You describe yourself as a leader of men in hostile enviroments. Following your comments on the RYR incident God help your men.
I suggest you do some research before critising the crew who saved your life following drills to the letter.I hope you take greater care in knowing your emergency equipment for your upcoming expedition than you did during the safety brief on that aircraft. If you have any emergencies on your upcoming trip can we expect a "piece to camera" while you plummet into a crevass, or will you just be saving your ass.
I would also suggest you research the possibility of securing a refund for your private education.
I have never heard such a load of self opinionated tosh from an alleged "leader of men".
At least Bear Grylys is silly to the point of amusing.You are just an ill informed egocentric snob and a victim of your own bull****. I hope to God you never held a Queens commission because you confuse leadership with arrogance
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Frankly in the oxygen mask case. I never heard of an issue with it before. All I know is that if they deploy. I put the nearest one on. The technicalities are lost on me. The lack of any communication from the flight deck would imply to me that they were a tad busy and that this was an emergency. All pretty obvious. I would have thought, unless, apparently, you are well travelled polar explorer. Who quite frankly seems to have all but panicked. Then compounded it by mouthing off to the BBC.
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Pen Hadow.......Aviation expert??
I think the real problem here is that Pen Hadow is an A*se ! and that the media love these kind of Terror stories
The descent was well executed and conformed to standard aviation practice. I would agree tho that there is an argument for making it clearer in the safety announcements that in the event of decompression the aircraft will descend steeply and rapidly.
The sad truth is that pax too often pay little attention to the safety brief. The problem is that if we say it like it could/will be then we would frighten the passengers to death before even taking off!
The descent was well executed and conformed to standard aviation practice. I would agree tho that there is an argument for making it clearer in the safety announcements that in the event of decompression the aircraft will descend steeply and rapidly.
The sad truth is that pax too often pay little attention to the safety brief. The problem is that if we say it like it could/will be then we would frighten the passengers to death before even taking off!
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williewalsh - you hit the nail on the head.
We can only hope most people have more imagination about what was going on in the cockpit during this situation than that guy did
and well done the BBC - what amazing balanced reporting!!!!!!!!!
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We can only hope most people have more imagination about what was going on in the cockpit during this situation than that guy did
and well done the BBC - what amazing balanced reporting!!!!!!!!!
not
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Dear Pen Hadow: I was so sorry to hear of your death from lack of oxygen on the Ryanair flight yesterday. Very sad. Oh ? You're not dead ? But the supply wasn't working, you said - and the descent took almost 11 minutes. And you must have been burning a lot of energy, spreading A & D among the PAXs in your function as Leader of Men. Good lungs, then.
Ah well: next time fly British Airways, I'm sure you can afford it. And they'll know how to treat someone who Makes a Difference (although if you knew What Was What, you'd have realised this applies more to the Ryanair crew flying your plane than you...)
Ah well: next time fly British Airways, I'm sure you can afford it. And they'll know how to treat someone who Makes a Difference (although if you knew What Was What, you'd have realised this applies more to the Ryanair crew flying your plane than you...)
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Long haul over night lights dimmed 90% of pax asleep (10%? very soundly asleep had a few G&Ts as a night cap perhaps), no loud announcement happily sleep on.
And before anybody suggests another pax will you give a nudge, I have been on flights with a 20% load factor and the nearest or pax is a long way away down the back and in the better class of travel (twice) with only one other pax.
And before anybody suggests another pax will you give a nudge, I have been on flights with a 20% load factor and the nearest or pax is a long way away down the back and in the better class of travel (twice) with only one other pax.
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Survival suggestions.
Overthewings said
Short of travelling the whole journey in the brace position, I'm not sure there's much more I could do to increase my survival chances.
Well on departure I ensure my shoes stay on until the seat belt sign goes off.
I ensure my shoes are back on early ( Feet swell but compression stockings help) ready for arrival.
Having been told that in smoke your eyes shut after 15 seconds I have a pair of swim goggles kept on me. They are also by me in any hotel room
( after having counted the doors from fire exits to my door )
p.s.
My thanks to ???? for the reply to my earlier question
RANT....
The BBC R4 is still broadcasting that Hadow rubbish but did also include MOL's reply. Rant over.
Short of travelling the whole journey in the brace position, I'm not sure there's much more I could do to increase my survival chances.
I ensure my shoes are back on early ( Feet swell but compression stockings help) ready for arrival.
Having been told that in smoke your eyes shut after 15 seconds I have a pair of swim goggles kept on me. They are also by me in any hotel room
( after having counted the doors from fire exits to my door )
p.s.
My thanks to ???? for the reply to my earlier question
RANT....
The BBC R4 is still broadcasting that Hadow rubbish but did also include MOL's reply. Rant over.
Post event briefing?
I'm very happy so say I have never heard the briefing after a depressurisation event, but it sounds as though there is scope to improve the reassurance element of this briefing.
Could it usefully include an observation that the descent was a well rehearsed safety procedure, and confirm that the oxygen supply to the masks is a trickle feed rather than a pressurised delivery system?
This might help passengers to understand the episode they have just been through, and save them the embarrassment of making uninformed comments afterwards..
Could it usefully include an observation that the descent was a well rehearsed safety procedure, and confirm that the oxygen supply to the masks is a trickle feed rather than a pressurised delivery system?
This might help passengers to understand the episode they have just been through, and save them the embarrassment of making uninformed comments afterwards..
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Well done the crew
Ignore all the idiotic criticism guys/gals, you did a great job, well done!
You can bet your bottom dollar, those who complained loudest about their oxygen not working were the same people with their heads buried in newspapers during the safety brief.
You can bet your bottom dollar, those who complained loudest about their oxygen not working were the same people with their heads buried in newspapers during the safety brief.
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WHAT HAPPENED TO CAUSE THE DECOMPRESSION?
Having waded through 7 pages (of which the usual 90% is utter rubbish) no one has yet said what caused it!
To those passengers who do listen carefully to the Safety Brief, well done. May you and your loved ones always fly safely. And, just to reiterate, if the masks drop when you are in your seat the action of moving the mask to your face will be enough to get the oxygen flowing. You may however feel a slight resistance in doing so and a gentle tug will do the trick.
To those of you who can't be bothered with the Safety Brief, and I include those who think they know better (particularly carbis22 who has shown himself to be a complete @rse!) maybe you can learn something from this. Just remember that the crew (both flight deck and cabin) are very highly trained professionals who, in any emergency situation, will be doing just what they have been trained to do. Remember also that they are as keen as you are to get home in one piece.
Having waded through 7 pages (of which the usual 90% is utter rubbish) no one has yet said what caused it!
To those passengers who do listen carefully to the Safety Brief, well done. May you and your loved ones always fly safely. And, just to reiterate, if the masks drop when you are in your seat the action of moving the mask to your face will be enough to get the oxygen flowing. You may however feel a slight resistance in doing so and a gentle tug will do the trick.
To those of you who can't be bothered with the Safety Brief, and I include those who think they know better (particularly carbis22 who has shown himself to be a complete @rse!) maybe you can learn something from this. Just remember that the crew (both flight deck and cabin) are very highly trained professionals who, in any emergency situation, will be doing just what they have been trained to do. Remember also that they are as keen as you are to get home in one piece.
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As a regular traveller on Ryanair I have to admit to the 'No Frills' approach leaves a lot to be desired if you like your comforts. But, as a passenger I know that saving ALL lives and the a/c is the focus in incidents like this regardless of which airline you happen to be flying with. It is obvious to all that this is what the crew did in this case.
This ongoing issue with 'RYANAIR BASHING' is becoming boring and has now spread to the media.
All involved should be proud of themselves.
I'm sure pilots ( and crew ) get fairly angry when the media pick holes in their best efforts???????
This ongoing issue with 'RYANAIR BASHING' is becoming boring and has now spread to the media.
All involved should be proud of themselves.
I'm sure pilots ( and crew ) get fairly angry when the media pick holes in their best efforts???????
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Someone somewhere for this incident to have occurred as screwed up and all you can do is persecute an eye witness account, that none of you witnessed yourselfs, get someone on here that was on this flight, otherwise the rest is complete BS
Whatever it was that happened, I too am interested in knowing what the cause of depresurisation was. I've only quickly skimmed the thread but can't see it anywhere, do we not yet know what actually happened?
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Simonpro,
Thankyou, finally someone with some common sense and not attacking the affected pax, seems like a bit of jealousy to me,
Thats all anyone should wish to know, what went wrong, what fault occurred and explanations, thats all the pax will be interested in, they will want answers, and anyone reading this thread, well the sensible people will to wish to know some answers, explanations.
Thankyou, finally someone with some common sense and not attacking the affected pax, seems like a bit of jealousy to me,
Thats all anyone should wish to know, what went wrong, what fault occurred and explanations, thats all the pax will be interested in, they will want answers, and anyone reading this thread, well the sensible people will to wish to know some answers, explanations.
Thats all anyone should wish to know, what went wrong, what fault occurred and explanations, thats all the pax will be interested in, they will want answers, and anyone reading this thread, well the sensible people will to wish to know some answers, explanations.