One-Two-Go Grounded!
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From: Phuket, Thailand
Time for protests
I.U.,
No I do not think there are credible authorities in T land....
The ONLY way to change things is for outside pressure, If the US FAA is failing to accurately rate Thai aviation then there is a last resort. Protests
I posted this before and it was removed, perhaps Mod will allow re post.
The day that 1-2 Go resumes flying to HKT I will protest at the airport at time of its landing .
It would be nice to have some company , or others at Bangkok or Chang Mai airports.
Fly Thai..and Die !! or
One-Two...Die !!
No I do not think there are credible authorities in T land....
The ONLY way to change things is for outside pressure, If the US FAA is failing to accurately rate Thai aviation then there is a last resort. Protests
I posted this before and it was removed, perhaps Mod will allow re post.
The day that 1-2 Go resumes flying to HKT I will protest at the airport at time of its landing .
It would be nice to have some company , or others at Bangkok or Chang Mai airports.
Fly Thai..and Die !! or
One-Two...Die !!
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From: Phuket, Thailand
Letter Ed. Printed
Well, At least The Nation printed my letter...As did the Phukette Gazette
Sometimes wishing for the Stars gets you the Moon.
If we call for arrest and prosecution of Thai DCA Officials.. maybe they'll roll on Udom..Maybe
Have to admit after watching Air Crash Investigation last night on the Alaskan Air deliberate mismanagement on maintenance causing the crash in 2000 , not greasing the screw in the tail controlling flight surfaces - no arrests were made then , either.
Is the US FAA corrupt or just incompetent, too?
Bangkok's Independent Newspaper
<<<<<<Aviation authorities negligent in restoring licences
I am in utter disbelief that the Thai aviation authorities are even considering the return of One-Two Go/Orient-Thai's operating certificates after grounding the airline, following the Phuket disaster, for disregarding safety regulations.
The airline's executives should be arrested and indicted for the murder of those passengers. And perhaps the head of the Thai aviation authorities, too.
Tourists beware: none of these censures would have come about had it not been for an American woman exposing mismanagement and oversight that the Thai authorities could no longer ignore.
I urge anyone who may be flying within Thailand to read (at www.InvestigateUdom.com) the astounding list of accusations about the authorities' apparent inability to properly regulate the airline industry.
The US FAA is being lobbied aggressively to downgrade Thailand's safety rating. Failing that, the US congress will be petitioned to stop funding the FAA rating programme as an utter waste of taxpayers' money.
CHRISTY K SWEET >>>>>>
Sometimes wishing for the Stars gets you the Moon.
If we call for arrest and prosecution of Thai DCA Officials.. maybe they'll roll on Udom..Maybe
Have to admit after watching Air Crash Investigation last night on the Alaskan Air deliberate mismanagement on maintenance causing the crash in 2000 , not greasing the screw in the tail controlling flight surfaces - no arrests were made then , either.
Is the US FAA corrupt or just incompetent, too?
Bangkok's Independent Newspaper
<<<<<<Aviation authorities negligent in restoring licences
I am in utter disbelief that the Thai aviation authorities are even considering the return of One-Two Go/Orient-Thai's operating certificates after grounding the airline, following the Phuket disaster, for disregarding safety regulations.
The airline's executives should be arrested and indicted for the murder of those passengers. And perhaps the head of the Thai aviation authorities, too.
Tourists beware: none of these censures would have come about had it not been for an American woman exposing mismanagement and oversight that the Thai authorities could no longer ignore.
I urge anyone who may be flying within Thailand to read (at www.InvestigateUdom.com) the astounding list of accusations about the authorities' apparent inability to properly regulate the airline industry.
The US FAA is being lobbied aggressively to downgrade Thailand's safety rating. Failing that, the US congress will be petitioned to stop funding the FAA rating programme as an utter waste of taxpayers' money.
CHRISTY K SWEET >>>>>>
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From: The wx is here, I wish u were beautiful
Still Grounded
From today's Bangkok Post
And of course, the whitewash brush is out again. The foreign devils are the cause of all problems.
and
I wonder if the NTSB report came to the same conclusion?
And of course, the whitewash brush is out again. The foreign devils are the cause of all problems.
Mr Wuthichai said the department wants Thai executives to take over the management of One-Two-Go. He argued foreign managers who were running the airline were so obsessed with making profits that they arranged schedules which prevented pilots taking refresher training or resting sufficiently between flights.
This attitude was definitely a threat to the safety of pasengers.
Foreign executives were only interested in making maximum profit without being concerned with the improvement of pilot efficiency, he said.
He expected Thai managers would emphasise quality standards, understand Thai corporate culture and promote Thai-style services.
It also demanded Thais make up at least 40% of the airlines' pilots.
This attitude was definitely a threat to the safety of pasengers.
Foreign executives were only interested in making maximum profit without being concerned with the improvement of pilot efficiency, he said.
He expected Thai managers would emphasise quality standards, understand Thai corporate culture and promote Thai-style services.
It also demanded Thais make up at least 40% of the airlines' pilots.
If One-Two-Go passes its re-evaluation on Monday, the public can be confident of the safety of its services, he said, adding the department applied strict controls on all airlines operating in Thailand...The department attributed the tragedy to a problem in cooperation between foreign and Thai pilots.
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From: US
Orient Thai flying the MD-80s without AOC?
Credible reports that Orient Thai is flying the One-Two-Go MD-80s while the AOC is still revoked, while using an Orient Thai call sign. (BKK is showing the departures as 747s.)
If you've seen this or have a picture or log of such an event, please contact [email protected].
My sincerest thanks.
If you've seen this or have a picture or log of such an event, please contact [email protected].
My sincerest thanks.
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From: USA
Forget the life rafts.
Flying for any reason without a AOC or suspended AOC is not allowed anywhere.
How did they even get a flight plan for this????
You are all barking up the wrong tree here.
This is not even allowed in Darkest Africa.
If this is true someone should notify the insurance company, sure they would want to hear this.
And what idiots operated this flight knowing this!
Flying for any reason without a AOC or suspended AOC is not allowed anywhere.
How did they even get a flight plan for this????
You are all barking up the wrong tree here.
This is not even allowed in Darkest Africa.
If this is true someone should notify the insurance company, sure they would want to hear this.
And what idiots operated this flight knowing this!
Last edited by Earl; 20th October 2008 at 11:48.
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From: uk
I think you may be over reacting a little bit Earl....
Just because one of their a/c was up in HKG does not mean they are flying without an AOC etc..
It could be on lease, test flight, been sold, ferry flight etc etc etc ...
Just because one of their a/c was up in HKG does not mean they are flying without an AOC etc..
It could be on lease, test flight, been sold, ferry flight etc etc etc ...
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From: not a million miles from old BKK
FrequentSLF
There you are - up front - left hand seat - taxiing out and behind you is an MD80 in 1-2-Go livery but responding to ATC with an Orient Thai callsign.
What do you think? - really? - What do you actually make of that? - Sheesh!!
What do you think? - really? - What do you actually make of that? - Sheesh!!
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From: Alabama
There you are - up front - left hand seat - taxiing out and behind you is an MD80 in 1-2-Go livery but responding to ATC with an Orient Thai callsign.
What do you think? - really? - What do you actually make of that? - Sheesh!!
What do you think? - really? - What do you actually make of that? - Sheesh!!
I seen various reasons why the aircraft was there (as posted by anartificialhorizon). And I repeat my question "it has been proven?". I can hardly believe that HKG will let a flight take off o land with out AOC... that's why I am asking...but seems that raising questions on this thread is not allowed
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From: US
It's irrelevant. Orient Thai - including but not limited to One-Two-Go - had the AOC revoked for the MD-80s. See the DCA order. Neither Orient Thai nor One-Two-Go can legally fly those airplanes.
I'll make two quick forecasts here:
I'll make two quick forecasts here:
- The DCA will suddenly announce the Orient Thai had been given back their AOC before these flights (about 2 weeks ago.) Trouble is, that will contradict an interview Witichai gave to the Bangkok post on Oct 15. So they'll have to come up with a more creative creation.
- Eventually, all blame for the crash will be put on Cho Ting Tsang. He's the American. He can be cut lose. You can see that happening in the interview above where foreigners are blamed. Eventually, Udom and Witichai will make a move to try to pin the entire blame on Cho.