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Air Atlanta Cargo incident Sharjah 07/11/04

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Old 8th Nov 2004, 13:16
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two low-res pics:

http://www.russianhome.com/pics/airatlanta.jpg
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Old 8th Nov 2004, 13:39
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OK guys - hopefully these will work





http://img120.exs.cx/img120/7997/8457-12.jpg

http://img122.exs.cx/img122/3793/8457-3.jpg

http://img111.exs.cx/img111/5911/8457-5.jpg

http://img102.exs.cx/img102/7233/8457-7.jpg
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Old 8th Nov 2004, 13:40
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considering that someone stated that the plane is off the end of the runway, it would suggest that the nosewheel is secondary to an abort at too high a speed.

I think I'll wait and see if other info turns up to suggest that the plane was indeed flyable but instead aborted resulting in the reported damage.
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Old 8th Nov 2004, 13:46
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They didn't want us flying around Sharjah today, funny that. But eek!! On that last photo did you lot see what happened to number 3? And forward of the wing root doesn't look to healthy either!
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Old 8th Nov 2004, 13:52
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speed freak - here is another photo of number 3 engine -

http://img103.exs.cx/img103/4212/8457-10.jpg

cheers
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Old 8th Nov 2004, 17:30
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The a/c was flying for Lufthansa Cargo (from HKG and on it's way to FRA).

LH Cargo has been leasing this a/c as well as two other, TF-ARP and TF-ARV after LH sold them to CC in June this year.


I'm going to really miss this a/c
I had a pleasure to fly on it as a passenger in 2000 and it used to had my home town name painted on it
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Old 8th Nov 2004, 17:38
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Hey, AN-124, thanks a bunch mate! good shots.
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Old 8th Nov 2004, 17:50
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Early in the thread ACE was asked ....

"ACE - How can you be so sure it will be written off ??"

spot on ACE
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Old 8th Nov 2004, 19:18
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AN-124

Any chance we can see all of the photos?
Impressive shots considering I've heard they aren't too
keen on photogs at SHJ
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Old 8th Nov 2004, 20:04
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Don't know what all the fuss is about, to be honest. They aborted, the A/C run off the R/W. Is that a crime?

Doesn't appear anyone was hurt which is the most important and AA haven't killed anyone yet, to my knowedge. Which is more than can be said for a lot of other airlines.
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Old 9th Nov 2004, 00:57
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AN124, good photos of a sad event.

Difficult to tell, but it looks like not all the engs were in full reverse? Time and the investigation will tell.

Max weight freighters from the ME in the summer always used to get my full attention, rotate being Vr or too few reds remaining, whichever came sooner!

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Old 9th Nov 2004, 04:59
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Photos

http://www.freewebs.com/wweasel/
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Old 9th Nov 2004, 08:17
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not too far off the departure end of rwy 30

how is it that terrain is so rough so close to the runway ?

normally, no overrun that comes to a stop so close to the runway, results in a write off

the sheikhs should better invest in up-to-date overrun area and definetely a new runway surface would be great !
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Old 9th Nov 2004, 08:21
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Don't know what all the fuss is about, to be honest. They aborted, the A/C run off the R/W. Is that a crime?
According to that logic everything is OK just as long as you don´t kill anyone. I am afraid that only goes when the aircraft is doomed and you save the day such as the Sioux City accident or better yet the more recent DHL A300 in Baghdad.

Not saying it is the case here but blatantly disregarding procedures and endangering the lives of others is in fact a CRIME!
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Old 9th Nov 2004, 08:27
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Rocco, do you by any chance know a good friend of mine, Capt. Varga Janos; ex Malev? Now flying for Hainan Airlines on their Beijing/Budapest run.
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Old 9th Nov 2004, 08:32
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Bet the crew didn't do it on purpose, so hope they'll not be killed over it.
Good luck!
 
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Still not sure which of my friends this happend to, but I am glad everyones ok. Chin up boys
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Old 9th Nov 2004, 11:27
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quote

"how is it that terrain is so rough so close to the runway ?"

Why is it that so many Runways have large obstacales, almost purposely left in place?

Our local strip (10,500ft) has a stone bank almost twenty feet high, no more than 400 feet from the end of the Runway
..... there is no reason why it has to be there!
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Old 9th Nov 2004, 12:13
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blatantly disregarding procedures and endangering the lives of others is in fact a CRIME!
Rocco, I suggest that you investigate the FAA certification requirements of a Classic 747 especially in relation to the brakes, then ask yourself just how many B747's following a high speed abort on a field length limited takeoff will remain on the runway?

So even the best crew on a good day can easily end up departing the end of the runway.

Mutt.

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Old 9th Nov 2004, 15:23
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Mutt,

If you read my previous post you would have seen that I said that I was not referring to this specific incident nor am I going to speculate on the event.

With regards to your rather condescending post, I think you just made a very valid point! You´re better off continuing.
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