Air Atlanta Cargo incident Sharjah 07/11/04
 

Just heard that an Air Atlanta Cargo 747 reg TF-ARR has overrun the runway on takeoff at Sharjah UAE.
Aparently during the takeoff it burst 4 tires and aborted but could not stop in time. The airport is currently closed.

One wonders if AAI's rather suspect previously reported maintenance practices are now coming home to roost.

That´s 2 serious incidents in less than a week. They´re on a roll.

Just seen the photos as some of my friends were visiting Sharjah at the time it happened. Aircraft will no doubt be written off but the crew escaped without injury.
What caused the 3 or 4 tires to burst on takeoff is a mystery but could well have been debry left on the runway?
The runway will most probably be closed until tommorow while they remove the wreckage.

ACE -

How can you be so sure it will be written off ??

Are there any pics in the public domain yet.

Aborting due to burst tires certainly reduces the chances of a happy ending.

If that was in fact what happened.

Arctaurus can't be sure that it will be written off but looking at the damage to the airframe and the fact that it's a 'classic' 742 I would think that it isn't worth repairing.
To give you an idea of the damage it reminds me of the taxing incident with the Saudi 744 where the forward section splits but in the case of the Air Atlanta stress and buckle marks can be seen a long way up the hull aswell when it impacted the sand dunes at the end of the runway.

Saudi 747 incident

Brgds ACE

Not that it makes much difference but the Saudia aircraft in KUL listed above was a 747/300.
IO tail number.
This Saudia incedent was not crew related as the aircraft was being repositioned by maintenance.
Good to hear that the AAI crew was OK.

411A Typical, would not expect anything less from you.
total ignorance and blind supposition.
Glad the crew are OK.

anyone got any photos we can see??

Clarence Oveur
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posted 7th November 2004 16:04
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Clearance Oveur.

"Aborting due to burst tires certainly reduces the chances of a happy ending.

True but sometimes it's turns out to be the best option available at the time.

Looking back the Air France concorde may have been better off staying on the ground.

well a 747 is not really close to a concord now is it..
lets hope that this was not due to any dubious reasons........
easy to suspect, let the facts talk first

Well flybob, AAI,s past"misadventures" with maintenance are well documented and reported in rspected aviation journals..can't vouch for the present, but unless there was a major change..411A might be on to something....

Should be flying over Sharjah airport tomorrow. I'll have a quick peek to see what can be seen.....

was mentioned previous about 2 incidents, what was the other one?

I think you will find that he is taking about the MAN incident as the 2nd incident for Air Atlanta..

I fully agree with Flybob regarding the valueless input from that vitriolic purveyor of ignorance, 411A, to this or any other PPRuNe thread.
All those in favour of a permanent 411A ban please indicate your wishes by email to the moderators. Perhaps a separate petition thread is in order?

Glad the damage was confined to machinery for the crew involved here.

What's wrong with 411a's posts?

regards

Anyone know who it was flying for? Whoever it was is likely to take an interest in the inquiry.
Glad the crew were OK.

In regards to 411A comments on AAI maintenance which are getting some what tiresome …

TF-ARR maintenance facts, last C-check performed by Lufthansa 10 January 04, last A-check performed by Lufthansa 22 October 04, line maintenance on the AAI freighters operating for Lufthansa is performed by Lufthansa which I think we can agree is second to none.

From: http://www.airliners.net/discussions....main/1811191/

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Username: IL76TD
From United States, joined Jul 2004, 146 posts, RR: 0
Posted Sun Nov 7 2004 15:40:23 UTC+1 and read 3364 times:
Just got back from the plane (I work at the SHJ airport for another cargo airline). I was putting some stuff in one of our planes when i saw the fire trucks at the end of the runway.

Analysis:
Fully loaded Air Atlanta Cargo 747-200 reg. TF-ARR (Ex LH Cargo D-ABZF) overran the runway at SHJ after blowing out both nose tires on takeoff (we felt the shock from them bursting in our office). This was at approximately 0100z.

Pictures of the Plane
http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...nct_entry=true

Result:
I just drove out to the runway to check it out, plane is approximately 50 feet off of the end of the runway, angled to the left in the dirt. The plane is definitely a total loss, the fuselage buckled slightly at the crest of the upper deck hump when the nose gear broke off in the dirt , and the left wing is broken off and wedged underneath the plane at an odd angle. Both main gear are also collapsed. The airport will be closed for 48 hours for investigation and removal of the plane. It is surrounded by security officers so i can't get any pics, but might try tomorrow, and definitely can once they remove it, which sadly may involve cutting it apart as it has no usable landing gear left. Also, the lower nose section is completely torn apart.

Crew suffered no major injuries (i saw them leave on a bus as i was arriving).

Looks like the 747 cargo leasing market just shrunk a little more. A sad end to a good looking plane.

Ask any other questions about anything i forgot, I'm going home now but will answer when i return.

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