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I see TDLF has then come back with further blurred analysis, admitting that GA is right. For example, he made the emotive statement that he was against merging the seniority lists of BA and BACX, in the full knowledge that no-one had ever suggested that, but aware of the fury it would arouse in BA. When it was pointed out that BALPA had never suggested that, he immediately backpedalled, (as he does so often) saying that statement was his own personal view. A similar point made over the pay award. He says that he never said there would be no pay award, but after GA came up with time/date/quote, had to admit he said the Company apparently 'had no money for a pay award' which was not the same thing ??????????????.
Heavens above, he could make a fortune in the used car market. He agrees there is inequity of redundancy bewteen BA / BACX, but refuses to address the issue, yet further on says that BALPA's proposals to give the most senior guys a better deal to free up command space would actually save money. We then progress to statements which allege he is not keen to release senior guys because that would lose the experience - having agreed earlier we are top-heavy with command experience generally!!!!
He twists and turn like .....hmmm, a figure swinging on a gibbet comes to mind.
I think he is in for a surprise - and maybe a new career direction in the not-too-distant future.
Oh, one last thought for all you guys on the 146s in Inverness and the Isle of Man. Did you notice Tim's little statement about single aircraft bases - how they are exceptionally expensive, and very difficult to justify!!!! Funny thing, I thought SOU was probably next in the firing line, but looks like I may be wrong.
The only rational and kind way to end this is as quickly as possible with a resounding YES vote. If the BALPA Genral Secretary says it is justified, support from mainline says it is justified, our Company Council - who WE elected - says it is justified - I don't need any more convincing. If I did, all I need to do is go and ask Tim why I should vote NO. The resulting slippery speech would convince me to buy that 1985 Ford Escort with 100000 miles and 37 owners..........
Heavens above, he could make a fortune in the used car market. He agrees there is inequity of redundancy bewteen BA / BACX, but refuses to address the issue, yet further on says that BALPA's proposals to give the most senior guys a better deal to free up command space would actually save money. We then progress to statements which allege he is not keen to release senior guys because that would lose the experience - having agreed earlier we are top-heavy with command experience generally!!!!
He twists and turn like .....hmmm, a figure swinging on a gibbet comes to mind.
I think he is in for a surprise - and maybe a new career direction in the not-too-distant future.
Oh, one last thought for all you guys on the 146s in Inverness and the Isle of Man. Did you notice Tim's little statement about single aircraft bases - how they are exceptionally expensive, and very difficult to justify!!!! Funny thing, I thought SOU was probably next in the firing line, but looks like I may be wrong.
The only rational and kind way to end this is as quickly as possible with a resounding YES vote. If the BALPA Genral Secretary says it is justified, support from mainline says it is justified, our Company Council - who WE elected - says it is justified - I don't need any more convincing. If I did, all I need to do is go and ask Tim why I should vote NO. The resulting slippery speech would convince me to buy that 1985 Ford Escort with 100000 miles and 37 owners..........
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Good Post Yog
A very good post Yog. However you let Captain De la Fosse off too lightly.
What about GA's question over the FIRST secondees. Remember those cadets. Remember how Tim was on the record about saving them from the dole queue, about how they were on BACX terms, salries, and more important, our devalued pension scheme!!!
Remember then how it turned out, that somehow, once again, there had been a misunderstanding; but in fact it meant they were on FULL BA Ts and Cs, and part of the BA final salary scheme all along!!!!
I notice even Tim can't wiggle his way out of that one! That is basically why you can apply the first rule of politics -
(How do you know when a politician is telling lies - you can see his lips moving!!)
To avoid any legal action, let's agree that Tim can be very "economical with the actualite"
-and that, dear readers, that history of fibs and doublespeak, of broken promises, 'misunderstandings' and 'situations outwith my gift' is why we will get a YES vote, and finally change some things around here.
What about GA's question over the FIRST secondees. Remember those cadets. Remember how Tim was on the record about saving them from the dole queue, about how they were on BACX terms, salries, and more important, our devalued pension scheme!!!
Remember then how it turned out, that somehow, once again, there had been a misunderstanding; but in fact it meant they were on FULL BA Ts and Cs, and part of the BA final salary scheme all along!!!!
I notice even Tim can't wiggle his way out of that one! That is basically why you can apply the first rule of politics -
(How do you know when a politician is telling lies - you can see his lips moving!!)
To avoid any legal action, let's agree that Tim can be very "economical with the actualite"
-and that, dear readers, that history of fibs and doublespeak, of broken promises, 'misunderstandings' and 'situations outwith my gift' is why we will get a YES vote, and finally change some things around here.
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Funny you should mention single a/c bases Yog.
IOM Examiner today:
"HOPES of increasing flights to
Gatwick are being blocked by
a refusal to extend opening
hours at Ronaldsway Airport,
according to the boss of the
Island's leading airline.
British Airways CitiExpress
general manager David Evans
said the airline wants to add
another daily flight to London
but can't because of the air-
port's hours."
The thin end of the wedge??
IOM Examiner today:
"HOPES of increasing flights to
Gatwick are being blocked by
a refusal to extend opening
hours at Ronaldsway Airport,
according to the boss of the
Island's leading airline.
British Airways CitiExpress
general manager David Evans
said the airline wants to add
another daily flight to London
but can't because of the air-
port's hours."
The thin end of the wedge??
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Sorry Mr Evans, but you already have 4 London rotations a day within the IOM airport hours, (albeit 3 LGW & 1 LTN).
I don't think IOM airport would need to stay open until 10 o' clock as you claim to have asked the IOM government to provide for to enable a 4th LGW rotation. How about rescheduling the first rotation 20 minutes earlier and then 4 LGW returns could easily be accomodated if you wanted to Hmmm ??
I don't think IOM airport would need to stay open until 10 o' clock as you claim to have asked the IOM government to provide for to enable a 4th LGW rotation. How about rescheduling the first rotation 20 minutes earlier and then 4 LGW returns could easily be accomodated if you wanted to Hmmm ??
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What a forecast!!
Wow, I should go into spread betting.
The mainline profit rise even bigger than my forecast!
Ref the IOM, obviously the London schedule propaganda is the latest ploy on the way to declaring it unviable.....HOWEVER an ATP mate based there now tells me management are already caving in to pressure, and suggesting a Dash 8 could well be based there as well as Glasgow, to prevent the wholesale moves they proposed earlier. Negotiation clearly works, but only if you have something to bargain wýth like a big stick!!
Worth pointing out this would NOT have been achieved without BALPA. If they were right about this, they are probably right about everything else. Timbo and Young Hutch are doing a Base tour this week to tell everyone how wicked and confrontational BALPA are. Hmmm, seems to me that a bit of firm confrontation is sadly all that our so-called management understand.
Keep the pressure up, it seems that LHR and Rodders are leaning on Timbo to sort this out by giving ground where necessary. VOTE YES!!!
The mainline profit rise even bigger than my forecast!
Ref the IOM, obviously the London schedule propaganda is the latest ploy on the way to declaring it unviable.....HOWEVER an ATP mate based there now tells me management are already caving in to pressure, and suggesting a Dash 8 could well be based there as well as Glasgow, to prevent the wholesale moves they proposed earlier. Negotiation clearly works, but only if you have something to bargain wýth like a big stick!!
Worth pointing out this would NOT have been achieved without BALPA. If they were right about this, they are probably right about everything else. Timbo and Young Hutch are doing a Base tour this week to tell everyone how wicked and confrontational BALPA are. Hmmm, seems to me that a bit of firm confrontation is sadly all that our so-called management understand.
Keep the pressure up, it seems that LHR and Rodders are leaning on Timbo to sort this out by giving ground where necessary. VOTE YES!!!
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LP...I think they've already confirmed a Dash8 for the IOM MAN route (5 daily). I can't see any logic in adding any more when Eastern have already started BHX IOM and the LPL IOM route has been struggling for a while against EuroManx; not forgetting that Emerald are about to start as well. The 5 daily IOM MAN sounds like the right response to the problems of LPL.
Riddle: With a common ERJ fleet, what do you get if you cross a troubled BACX business with an equally troubled business from bmiRegional?
Riddle: With a common ERJ fleet, what do you get if you cross a troubled BACX business with an equally troubled business from bmiRegional?
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Tinytim (taken from previous page of this thread)
I do not know Tinytim's background or present experience but my observation of British commercial life over the 25 years that I have been working is that the answers to your points will actually be:[list=1][*]Bring about the removal of the people that are on strike.[*]Allow BA an excuse to railroad unpleasant solutions.[*]Allow CX to continue to restrict the Union representatives.[/list=1]
Dirty Tricks are the stock in trade of countless British Managments, BA + CX do not have a monoply of them and strike action will not change this.
I suggest that, at this stage, the British are not in a mood to support strike action from any group other than, Fire/Ambulance and Medical staff.
I believe that a strong YES vote will, aside from any other result:-[list=1][*]Bring about the removal of those above individuals remaining.[*]Force BA to address what exactly it is that they want out of CX and put in proper resources to achieve it.[*]Force CX to afford its Union representatives in Balpa the same courtesy and respect enjoyed by their BA counterparts and end the dirty tricks, abuse, misinformation and dodgy dealing which have characterised its relationship with our CC members.[/list=1]
Dirty Tricks are the stock in trade of countless British Managments, BA + CX do not have a monoply of them and strike action will not change this.
I suggest that, at this stage, the British are not in a mood to support strike action from any group other than, Fire/Ambulance and Medical staff.
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Paxboy I wont trade backgrounds with you.......suffice to say that I have been around a bit too.........rather longer than you!
Your point is what exactly?
When confronted with bullying incompetent and divisive management you just roll over and say "Come on Guys do it to us all over again"
One either has principles that one is prepared to fight for or one does not.
BA have a history of responding to industrial persuasion with a modicum of pragmatism and signs are that they'll do the same this time. So I do not agree with your pessimism
Your point is what exactly?
When confronted with bullying incompetent and divisive management you just roll over and say "Come on Guys do it to us all over again"
One either has principles that one is prepared to fight for or one does not.
BA have a history of responding to industrial persuasion with a modicum of pragmatism and signs are that they'll do the same this time. So I do not agree with your pessimism
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For what it's worth (BACX) guys I hope whatever you decide it works out for you.....and to anyone affected by base closures proposed or otherwise, I pray you find jobs quickly and in the industry you've all worked so hard in.
All the guys in ops at BACX (both IOM and BHX) are nice people and great to deal with!. That's not to say any of the crews aren't before anyone jumps on me, I just haven't spoken to any of them.
Best wishes to one and all
All the guys in ops at BACX (both IOM and BHX) are nice people and great to deal with!. That's not to say any of the crews aren't before anyone jumps on me, I just haven't spoken to any of them.
Best wishes to one and all
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Jordan - love the t#ts!
Jordan - ref the Dash 8 on the IOM and GLA. My mate was saying this is to be a IOM based aeroplane, so meaning the IOM guys will not have to relocate to Manchester. Ludicrous company suggestion anyway, I mean, why base the damn thing in Manchester meaning TWO crews nightstopping every night, when you can base it in the IOM and have none. Purely a 'close the base' technique politically.
Tim and Co are now well established on the
"BALPA were just mistaken, we meant you to have a payrise all along, we'll discuss the details in a month or so...."
and
"of course we are trying desperately hard on your behalf to get BA access, things are looking good, don't let BALPA screw it all up for you, we expect to have some good news in the near future..."
side of things.
Not to mention the "there is a hardcore communist subversion element in your BALPA CC, who want confrontation at any cost, you just can't trust these officials who YOU elected, who do their jobs for no pay in their own time, unlike us well remunerated managers for whom it is our day job....."
[This is PURELY because of the mere threat of a threat of a risk of industrial action - purely because of BALPA]
Yeah, right, of course we believe Tim, he and his team have all been dead straight all along haven't they. We all know they have our best interests at heart - it's just that somtimes we can't see the big picture. Let's be fair, when have we EVER EVER known Timbo say anything and change his mind or his stance? When has he EVER said one thing for effect one week, and contradicted himself the next? When has he ever used vague language which could be interpreted later as meaning several different things?? He even has the gall now to try and take credit for things like Flight Duty Pay, Disruption allowances, Day Off payments when they were all things achieved by BALPA. Hands up anyone who believes we would have had them as a management gift?
It's knowledge like this which makes us confident as to who we trust with the future of our families, our careers, our entire lives.
I know who I believe has my best interests at heart, and it isn't anyone from bloody Waterside!!!!!
Tim and Co are now well established on the
"BALPA were just mistaken, we meant you to have a payrise all along, we'll discuss the details in a month or so...."
and
"of course we are trying desperately hard on your behalf to get BA access, things are looking good, don't let BALPA screw it all up for you, we expect to have some good news in the near future..."
side of things.
Not to mention the "there is a hardcore communist subversion element in your BALPA CC, who want confrontation at any cost, you just can't trust these officials who YOU elected, who do their jobs for no pay in their own time, unlike us well remunerated managers for whom it is our day job....."
[This is PURELY because of the mere threat of a threat of a risk of industrial action - purely because of BALPA]
Yeah, right, of course we believe Tim, he and his team have all been dead straight all along haven't they. We all know they have our best interests at heart - it's just that somtimes we can't see the big picture. Let's be fair, when have we EVER EVER known Timbo say anything and change his mind or his stance? When has he EVER said one thing for effect one week, and contradicted himself the next? When has he ever used vague language which could be interpreted later as meaning several different things?? He even has the gall now to try and take credit for things like Flight Duty Pay, Disruption allowances, Day Off payments when they were all things achieved by BALPA. Hands up anyone who believes we would have had them as a management gift?
It's knowledge like this which makes us confident as to who we trust with the future of our families, our careers, our entire lives.
I know who I believe has my best interests at heart, and it isn't anyone from bloody Waterside!!!!!
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I think you should go further.
Many of us I suppose have not really been affected by the base closures / fleet moves, but only because we are lucky in location terms. That doesn't mean the next great Fosse plan to relocate everything to Gatwick, or another BA locost out of STN will not affect us. Or even, let it be said openly, any (near) future plan to sell us off, or merge us with Midland as an earlier thread suggested.
The bottom line is that this affects us all. If we do not show we are serious about this, it will be far worse than if we had never tried.
1. I understand the CC will resign. (More honorable than management then)
2. A new CC will take a long time to amass any serious experience to deal with Dental and his chums.
3. Dental and the rabbithutch will be crowing for months, knowing they can do as they like in future because we will just bend over and take it no matter what.
I actually think being shafted again will be better than listening to the unctuous 'I told you sos' from all the management types.
There are not really any "I'm alright jacks' any more. This is potentially a vote of confidence in our management, and if they win it - well, what we have seen so far in their uncaring, bullying, dictatorial 'we know best" attitudes will be amplified beyond all recognition.
(they know best all right, just look at the change in profitability since Floss and his minions took over)
Really think about this one boys, think about the lack of promotion, the moves, the Ts and Cs - the dodgy dealing, the doublespeak, the self awarded management perks and special packages that for some reason they won't discuss. (It's odd, but when I was in the Air Force, you could check out a Group Captains Salary, a Leading Aircraftsman or an Air Vice Marshall with equal ease, and every knew exactly where they were.) Why do YOU all think our management guard their salary packages so secretively - do you think it's because we'll feel appalled and sorry for them if we were to find out? No, neither do I.
Read Tim's posts on intercom carefully, I would cut and paste if I knew how. See how he seems to promise and say a lot, but there is so much lack of definition, so little specific detail that it is meaningless. He has made the mistake of trying to split the pilot workforce by slagging off part of the CC. It won't work Tim, as good old GA has come back and said that the CC are as one in this - unlike some of your managers who can be heard doing a damn sight more than jus querying the party line once you get a beer into them.
VOTE YES.
Many of us I suppose have not really been affected by the base closures / fleet moves, but only because we are lucky in location terms. That doesn't mean the next great Fosse plan to relocate everything to Gatwick, or another BA locost out of STN will not affect us. Or even, let it be said openly, any (near) future plan to sell us off, or merge us with Midland as an earlier thread suggested.
The bottom line is that this affects us all. If we do not show we are serious about this, it will be far worse than if we had never tried.
1. I understand the CC will resign. (More honorable than management then)
2. A new CC will take a long time to amass any serious experience to deal with Dental and his chums.
3. Dental and the rabbithutch will be crowing for months, knowing they can do as they like in future because we will just bend over and take it no matter what.
I actually think being shafted again will be better than listening to the unctuous 'I told you sos' from all the management types.
There are not really any "I'm alright jacks' any more. This is potentially a vote of confidence in our management, and if they win it - well, what we have seen so far in their uncaring, bullying, dictatorial 'we know best" attitudes will be amplified beyond all recognition.
(they know best all right, just look at the change in profitability since Floss and his minions took over)
Really think about this one boys, think about the lack of promotion, the moves, the Ts and Cs - the dodgy dealing, the doublespeak, the self awarded management perks and special packages that for some reason they won't discuss. (It's odd, but when I was in the Air Force, you could check out a Group Captains Salary, a Leading Aircraftsman or an Air Vice Marshall with equal ease, and every knew exactly where they were.) Why do YOU all think our management guard their salary packages so secretively - do you think it's because we'll feel appalled and sorry for them if we were to find out? No, neither do I.
Read Tim's posts on intercom carefully, I would cut and paste if I knew how. See how he seems to promise and say a lot, but there is so much lack of definition, so little specific detail that it is meaningless. He has made the mistake of trying to split the pilot workforce by slagging off part of the CC. It won't work Tim, as good old GA has come back and said that the CC are as one in this - unlike some of your managers who can be heard doing a damn sight more than jus querying the party line once you get a beer into them.
VOTE YES.
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Guys, only curious, so please don't shoot me down, but, as it seems access to mainline BA is one of the key elements to this dispute, the following questions occur to me:
1) How exactly does your threat of industrial action in BACX, actually advance your position with regard to encouraging a separate company, BA, to modify THEIR selection criteria for you?
I believe the following are some of the modifications you are demanding;
No application form,
No numeracy/literacy tests,
No building models,
No reference to training records until those undertaking selection understand, and are able to interpret correctly, the differences in the BA/BACX grading structures.
A simulator check
Psychometric tests (provided the pilot has not already undertaken them in BACX.)
An interview – based on objective criteria.
2) How do you think the fact that your BACX CC turned down access to BA (without consulting the membership!!!) only a short while ago, will be viewed?
3) How do you think the petition regarding the 'Humiliation of BACX' pilots (humiliation at having to undergo the SAME selection process as everbody else) will have encouraged BA management to reduce their selection criteria for you?
Perhaps a more measured, pragmatic approach could have achieved more?
(It's certainly difficult to see how it could have achieved less!)
1) How exactly does your threat of industrial action in BACX, actually advance your position with regard to encouraging a separate company, BA, to modify THEIR selection criteria for you?
I believe the following are some of the modifications you are demanding;
No application form,
No numeracy/literacy tests,
No building models,
No reference to training records until those undertaking selection understand, and are able to interpret correctly, the differences in the BA/BACX grading structures.
A simulator check
Psychometric tests (provided the pilot has not already undertaken them in BACX.)
An interview – based on objective criteria.
2) How do you think the fact that your BACX CC turned down access to BA (without consulting the membership!!!) only a short while ago, will be viewed?
3) How do you think the petition regarding the 'Humiliation of BACX' pilots (humiliation at having to undergo the SAME selection process as everbody else) will have encouraged BA management to reduce their selection criteria for you?
Perhaps a more measured, pragmatic approach could have achieved more?
(It's certainly difficult to see how it could have achieved less!)
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Steady on Tandemrotor, that takes us down the path of seniority lists, joining dates and using CFE(CityFlyer Express) as a benchmark. Could get ugly!
Just out of interest, how many BACX pilots are on the BACX seniority list and out of those how many are members of BALPA? The BALPA secondees were sent the consultative ballot on strike action. However, there are legal issues regarding the secondees going on strike in support of BACX pilots. Firstly, the secondees are not represented by BACX CC and secondly, the secondees are not employed by BACX. Two reasons why BALPA did this:
1) It was an admin error
2) BACX CC were hoping to boost the number of 'YES' votes by sending the ballot to BALPA secondees. (Almost all the secondees being members of BALPA)
Fortunately all the secondees sympathise with the BACX pilots on the ballot's first 2 points ie. PAY and BREAKING SCHEDULE C. To include ACCESS TO BA as the third point of disagreement can lead to a 'them and us' scenario which so far has been avoided on this thread.
I think this whole affair has been a learning experience for the CC and has to some extent demonstrated their lack of experience in this area. Therefore, to discover the CC will all resign sounds like a step backwards for the BACX pilots they represent. Furthermore, if it opens-up a BACX vs BA pilot divide then this would be playing into mangement hands with the old theory of 'divide and conquer'.
Just out of interest, how many BACX pilots are on the BACX seniority list and out of those how many are members of BALPA? The BALPA secondees were sent the consultative ballot on strike action. However, there are legal issues regarding the secondees going on strike in support of BACX pilots. Firstly, the secondees are not represented by BACX CC and secondly, the secondees are not employed by BACX. Two reasons why BALPA did this:
1) It was an admin error
2) BACX CC were hoping to boost the number of 'YES' votes by sending the ballot to BALPA secondees. (Almost all the secondees being members of BALPA)
Fortunately all the secondees sympathise with the BACX pilots on the ballot's first 2 points ie. PAY and BREAKING SCHEDULE C. To include ACCESS TO BA as the third point of disagreement can lead to a 'them and us' scenario which so far has been avoided on this thread.
I think this whole affair has been a learning experience for the CC and has to some extent demonstrated their lack of experience in this area. Therefore, to discover the CC will all resign sounds like a step backwards for the BACX pilots they represent. Furthermore, if it opens-up a BACX vs BA pilot divide then this would be playing into mangement hands with the old theory of 'divide and conquer'.
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I can agree with some of what you have said.
I think it's fair comment that BACX pilots probably deserve better. It's just a shame that they seem to be led by a slightly eccentric CC, who invariably seem to prefer a high risk, 'all or nothing' strategy (At least that's how it appears from the outside, so I do of course, stand to be corrected!)
I can agree with some of what you have said.
I think it's fair comment that BACX pilots probably deserve better. It's just a shame that they seem to be led by a slightly eccentric CC, who invariably seem to prefer a high risk, 'all or nothing' strategy (At least that's how it appears from the outside, so I do of course, stand to be corrected!)
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I am a little perplexed why PH is getting quite a lot of the attack.
TDLF yes and DE most certainly but PH is only Chief Pilot Technical and therefore responsible for the technical aspects of flight operations. He has no remit concerning future company policy. His only crime seems to be that he could be a likely alternative to TDLF ( and non BA ). You could just as well blame JA, OD, NG etc all of whom like PH were senior managers before BA bought the lot.
TDLF yes and DE most certainly but PH is only Chief Pilot Technical and therefore responsible for the technical aspects of flight operations. He has no remit concerning future company policy. His only crime seems to be that he could be a likely alternative to TDLF ( and non BA ). You could just as well blame JA, OD, NG etc all of whom like PH were senior managers before BA bought the lot.
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Its probably something to do with the fact that TDF has already declared him as his successor...............his chosen son. Considering his judgement on every other topic, might one be forgiven for not giving the benefit of the doubt?
Might it also be something to do with the fact that PH seems to support everything TDF does and says and follows him around like his little shadow?
Some might not be reassured by his pedigree.
"By his friends you will know him..............................."
Might it also be something to do with the fact that PH seems to support everything TDF does and says and follows him around like his little shadow?
Some might not be reassured by his pedigree.
"By his friends you will know him..............................."
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Well, he was the "chosen son" of the profitable BRAL and the then chief pilot before it was bought out.
He is a shrewd operator, remember TDLF is his boss so perhaps he might disagree entirely but is not in a strong enough position right now to take a stand.
It has concerned many cx pilots like myself how cx balpa have dealt with issues. The immature and over confrontational letters have left many of us frustrated and as a result people, as you will know, are resigning their membership.
Citi Express is a mess and I do believe BA are absolutely to blame.
I simply do not see why PH is to blame. He turned down BA to stay with BRAL and would be flight ops director now if BA had not purchased it.
He is a shrewd operator, remember TDLF is his boss so perhaps he might disagree entirely but is not in a strong enough position right now to take a stand.
It has concerned many cx pilots like myself how cx balpa have dealt with issues. The immature and over confrontational letters have left many of us frustrated and as a result people, as you will know, are resigning their membership.
Citi Express is a mess and I do believe BA are absolutely to blame.
I simply do not see why PH is to blame. He turned down BA to stay with BRAL and would be flight ops director now if BA had not purchased it.
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BACX is not some family firm which is handed down through the generations, with all due respect to PH there is no reason why he should automatically assume the post should TDLF vacate it.
If anything what with all the company has been through, the thought of another pilot attempting to run the company rather leaves me cold. If and when the postion should become vacant then it should be advertised publicly or a recruitment firm should be employed to find the best candidate for the job, hopefully somebody who has experience of business and will treat the airline as such.
If anything what with all the company has been through, the thought of another pilot attempting to run the company rather leaves me cold. If and when the postion should become vacant then it should be advertised publicly or a recruitment firm should be employed to find the best candidate for the job, hopefully somebody who has experience of business and will treat the airline as such.
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So, hoey5o, Hutch's mate comes out into the open!
Many of the 'chosen sons' of the ancien regime were annointed at very early stages in their careers by persons no longer (thankfully) associated with BACX. We all know that nepotism and favouritism was rife and there should be no place for that in BACX depite the glaring exceptions of training favours handed out by TDLF to his mates. Hutch may be able to wear the suit, walk the BA walk, polish the shoes and pay a huge amount on hair cuts every month but his overall experience of the big wide world could probably be listed on the back of the proverbial fagpacket. He is not the man to take over flight ops; I don't think there is anybody in the current management suitable at present, and then there is the MD's slot, as well, to consider.
I have seen little evidence of you and your fellow resignees offering alternative arguments or solutions to the current crisis either anonomously in these forums or on the BACX BALPA forum. Which begs the question; just where have you emerged from?
Many of the 'chosen sons' of the ancien regime were annointed at very early stages in their careers by persons no longer (thankfully) associated with BACX. We all know that nepotism and favouritism was rife and there should be no place for that in BACX depite the glaring exceptions of training favours handed out by TDLF to his mates. Hutch may be able to wear the suit, walk the BA walk, polish the shoes and pay a huge amount on hair cuts every month but his overall experience of the big wide world could probably be listed on the back of the proverbial fagpacket. He is not the man to take over flight ops; I don't think there is anybody in the current management suitable at present, and then there is the MD's slot, as well, to consider.
I have seen little evidence of you and your fellow resignees offering alternative arguments or solutions to the current crisis either anonomously in these forums or on the BACX BALPA forum. Which begs the question; just where have you emerged from?