Cabri G5

[helihub]

Originally Posted by DavidSmithHeli

this year we are expecting to deliver at least 40 R22’s. Last year only 20 G2’s were delivered.

Yes, because more time was given (and still is, I believe) to the Airbus-funded VSR700 program. I assume that the surpluses from that program prompted Bruno to finally launch a big brother to the G2

Let’s wait and see how competitively priced the G5 is. At least it won’t have to suffer the chaos the R66 had with European certification

[HeliHenri]

Originally Posted by DavidSmithHeli

this year we are expecting to deliver at least 40 R22’s. Last year only 20 G2’s were delivered.

Strange to compare facts (last year G2 production) with estimation (this year estimated R22 production).

And funny to say that Guimbal produced only 20 G2 last year when Robinson produced less R22 than that figure ...
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[FiveBlades]

Strange to compare it to the r66 when the price/performance will be closer to the b505.

[Rotorbee]

Dear Mr. Smith,
It isn't very gentlemanlike to gloat. There is no real other competition for Robinson than the Cabri G2. It is more recent, uses newer technologies and is better locking. It does not have the same success than Robinson, but that does not mean you should make fun of it. And for the record, your numbers are far below the numbers they once were, too. I still admire the success of Robinson and have flown them many hours, but please refrain from bulling the competition, it does not suit you.

[PPRuNeUser469990]

Cabri is expensive to buy and run, they often have "niggly" issues, it porpoises in straight and level flight, and it is not powerful enough

Other than that, they are fine.

[DavidSmithHeli]

Originally Posted by Rotorbee

Dear Mr. Smith,
It isn't very gentlemanlike to gloat. There is no real other competition for Robinson than the Cabri G2. It is more recent, uses newer technologies and is better locking. It does not have the same success than Robinson, but that does not mean you should make fun of it. And for the record, your numbers are far below the numbers they once were, too. I still admire the success of Robinson and have flown them many hours, but please refrain from bulling the competition, it does not suit you.

Well I guess you completely misread my post. I was simply providing some facts of relevance to the thread. There’s no gloating or bullying. There’s room in the market for all of us.

[Bell_ringer]

In this market, which is Robinson heavy, the Cabri hasn’t put a dent in the 22 market share. It is too underpowered to be used nationally and statistically they have written off more G2’s in training accidents as a percentage of total units shipped.
The number of 22’s has inherently declined due to insurance costs which contributes to making the delta of renting a 44 or cadet marginal, and provides an operator with a more versatile platform for generating revenue.

[PPRuNeUser469990]

They should have made the Cabri with a normal tail rotor. No need for a fenestrom on a training machine

[Hot and Hi]

Originally Posted by hargreaves99

The G2 didn't really affect the R22 sales/usage in Europe.

Hardly anyone in the UK uses the G2 as it's almost the same price as an R44! And they break all the time

Noted. But I think you missed Robbie’s point

[albatross]

Geeze, everybody play nice!
Joke
Can’t we just start making these again? Simple, easy to fly and maintain, autos great, Extremely good visibility. Lands anywhere! . Joke over.

[EDML]

Originally Posted by hargreaves99

They should have made the Cabri with a normal tail rotor. No need for a fenestrom on a training machine

If you plan to move up to other Fenestron EC helicopters it makes perfect sense. (That's what I did and it worked nicely; G2 -> EC135).

[CGameProgrammerr]

The G2 was basically created to train EC pilots so it's a baby EC. The G5 is not a trainer so it'll be interesting to see what they do with it.