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Old 29th Sep 2021, 08:19
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Having threatened to pull out of the UK during the Brexit negotiations, I find Airbusís push to trouser UK taxes a little on the nose, added to which they didnít cover themselves in glory during the H225 incident in Norway. Leonardo have gone down their traditional route of give us the contract or Yeovil gets it.

A few years ago I did a comparison between the AW189 and the H175 for a major operator and to be honest, Iíd vote Blackhawk.
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Old 29th Sep 2021, 10:04
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Originally Posted by minigundiplomat View Post
Having threatened to pull out of the UK during the Brexit negotiations, I find Airbus’s push to trouser UK taxes a little on the nose, added to which they didn’t cover themselves in glory during the H225 incident in Norway. Leonardo have gone down their traditional route of give us the contract or Yeovil gets it.

A few years ago I did a comparison between the AW189 and the H175 for a major operator and to be honest, I’d vote Blackhawk.
Me too, the other offerings are civil helicopters in green paint. Same as the 330 Puma so no change.
Surely we should be buying a military aircraft!!
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Old 29th Sep 2021, 10:36
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Watching that H175 video, I expect the incidence of airsickness among troops will be quite high.
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Old 29th Sep 2021, 11:34
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Watching that H175 video, I expect the incidence of airsickness among troops will be quite high.
And they'll get shot down a lot flying like that too.

Nothing like a vertical and predictable manoeuvre profile to make it easy to get a lead on the target even with small arms.
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Old 29th Sep 2021, 14:40
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Me too, the other offerings are civil helicopters in green paint. Same as the 330 Puma so no change.
I beg your pardon. The 330 was a pure military development. It was only when it was a success the Sud went for the civil version. Even then they had to get the cooperation of the RAF and the French Army to release aircraft for main gearbox reliability trials in 1974. It was called the Components Advanced Ageing Programme to prove that the gearbox could be TBO'd to 1,500 hrs instead of the military 800hrs. 33Sqn's was XW 203 which was required to fly 100 hrs/month to meet the programme.

It crashed during the programme whilst trying to do a self innated barrel roll.
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Old 29th Sep 2021, 16:01
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Evidence of history repeating itself?

Originally Posted by Fareastdriver View Post
I beg your pardon. The 330 was a pure military development. It was only when it was a success the Sud went for the civil version. Even then they had to get the cooperation of the RAF and the French Army to release aircraft for main gearbox reliability trials in 1974. It was called the Components Advanced Ageing Programme to prove that the gearbox could be TBO'd to 1,500 hrs instead of the military 800hrs. 33Sqn's was XW 203 which was required to fly 100 hrs/month to meet the programme.

It crashed during the programme whilst trying to do a self innated barrel roll.
From the EC175 thread and reference to an AAIB report on a contemporary EC175 MGB issue; EC 175

The (EC 175) helicopter was undergoing scheduled maintenance to replace the main gear box (MGB), which had reached its overhaul life of 800 flying hours.

Did we just go back 50 years in time?
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 09:50
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PELITA AIR SERVICE / INDONESIA was the first civil operator, commenced operations with c/n 1082 in 1971.followed by another 18 during the early 70's, which were ( in addition to offshore work ) used to to 'move' oil / gas drilling rigs in North Sumatra whereby the average daily utilization was 12 + hours..
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