Hill Helicopters HX50
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What do you all think of this? Sounds like you will only lease a hill helicopter and not actually own it?
HX50 and owner. Our pioneering Hill Cloud and App services deliver the Hill Active Safety Management (HASM) system providing an all-new, streamlined and proactive approach flight safety for private owners. HASM delivers electronic management of the aircraft, licensing, pilot status and logs, along with our cloud-based flight data and video recording system that delivers active pilot oversight, safety monitoring, mentoring and support.
What do you all think of this? Sounds like you will only lease a hill helicopter and not actually own it?
DKshredder - No they are talking about a Safety Management System that monitors and records all manner of data from the aircraft but also keeps an eye on the pilot's licence, medical etc - just a database for those sorts of things.
RVDT - so it seems the heated intake (oil tank at the front or similar) is a more elegant solution since it gives automatic protection rather than requiring the pilot to select it
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RVDT - so it seems the heated intake (oil tank at the front or similar) is a more elegant solution since it gives automatic protection rather than requiring the pilot to select it
However, for moisture to affect your engine you must surely be in it rathe than looking at it?
A shower 5 miles away is visible moisture but wouldn't affect you unless you flew into it
A shower 5 miles away is visible moisture but wouldn't affect you unless you flew into it
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RVDT - so it seems the heated intake (oil tank at the front or similar) is a more elegant solution since it gives automatic protection rather than requiring the pilot to select it
"Visible moisture" means if you can see any visible moisture anywhere not just nearby as it can occur with an RH of > 65%. Of course this only applicable with an OAT of < 4.4 C. At an OAT of < 4.4 C anti-ice is hardly going to be a performance issue.
As an aside having worked on a few RR A250's I have my thoughts on erosion of the compressor case half lining at the first stage (which is plastic BTW) is attributable to insufficient use of the anti-ice due to misinterpretation of the conditions required rather than dust.
The restriction is oversimplified to cover a broad range of conditions which you possibly could never test for - pilots after all, who don't need to endure the Combined Gas Laws?
Megan - ours is 1500m. If you have visibility less than 1000m due to water vapour you are technically in fog/cloud.
I read that as a software application and customer interface that helps to coordinate various aspects of aircraft ownership and operation. It is not entirely a simple thing to build and can create some challenge for mixed fleet operators who use tools like CAMP or Traxxall to manage some data and tools like Appareo or similar for other data.
Pretty sure Bell has or had a system similar.
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Megan - ours is 1500m. If you have visibility less than 1000m due to water vapour you are technically in fog/cloud.
Uncontrolled airfields with NORDO helicopters can be a bit fruity!
Megan -What you're missing I think crab is the visibility requirements for VFR, ours is 800metres, what is it that reduces visibility, not moisture per chance?
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Megan - ours is 1500m. If you have visibility less than 1000m due to water vapour you are technically in fog/cloud.
the UK limit for (S)VFR for helicopters is 800m
ours is 1500m. If you have visibility less than 1000m due to water vapour you are technically in fog/cloud
The "Handbook of Aviation Meteorology" defines fog as visibility being less than 1,006 metres, haze a visibility between 1,006 metres and 6.25 miles, so technically you're not in cloud at 800 metres, but in fog, and the regs say "clear of cloud", not "clear of fog". Bush lawyers we is.
Megan - there is no difference between fog and cloud - https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather...20dense%20fog)
Far South - SVFR is only available in controlled airspace subject to ATC approval - it is not the normal VFR minimum.
Far South - SVFR is only available in controlled airspace subject to ATC approval - it is not the normal VFR minimum.
Megan - https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/jo...like%20clouds.
If you are operating regularly in 800m/half SM visibility you would have to ask yourself why.
The Bush lawyer approach to flying in poor weather because you can convince yourself it is legal is exactly how so many end up IIMC or is a smoking hole. Or both, see Kobe Bryant accident for details.
When I have flown in that sort of vis it was because I had to not because I wanted to and the has to was not to earn a few dollars, it was to save lives.
If you are operating regularly in 800m/half SM visibility you would have to ask yourself why.
The Bush lawyer approach to flying in poor weather because you can convince yourself it is legal is exactly how so many end up IIMC or is a smoking hole. Or both, see Kobe Bryant accident for details.
When I have flown in that sort of vis it was because I had to not because I wanted to and the has to was not to earn a few dollars, it was to save lives.
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If you are operating regularly in 800m/half SM visibility you would have to ask yourself why
If you are operating regularly in 800m/half SM visibility you would have to ask yourself why
It does raise the question though, the 800 metres is UK approved for special VFR, what would reduce the vis to 800 in the UK, dust storms I doubt feature.
Megan - GOM perchance? Sounds like a very risky operation with very light touch or non-existent oversight from authorities.
Yes, over water is different as there a fewer things to bump into but the risk of IIMC flying in goldfish bowl conditions is high.
Was the N Sea like that back in the day? I wasn't there but it certainly isn't nowadays and hasn't been for a long while - if your operators are still working like this they are being exploited by the oil companies.
800m in UK would be snow, heavy rain/sleet and perhaps thick haze with a low sun but you would still be required to maintain above 500' agl so that would discount fog because you have to be in sight of the surface.
https://regulatorylibrary.caa.co.uk/...trol_zones.htm
Yes, over water is different as there a fewer things to bump into but the risk of IIMC flying in goldfish bowl conditions is high.
Was the N Sea like that back in the day? I wasn't there but it certainly isn't nowadays and hasn't been for a long while - if your operators are still working like this they are being exploited by the oil companies.
800m in UK would be snow, heavy rain/sleet and perhaps thick haze with a low sun but you would still be required to maintain above 500' agl so that would discount fog because you have to be in sight of the surface.
https://regulatorylibrary.caa.co.uk/...trol_zones.htm
Because it's legal, otherwise why would it be in the regs.