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not a troll
I particularly like the use of 'another' as in another case.
There were always other supplies and suppliers but in my three tours in the province during the late eighties and early ninties we were always made aware of the exitence of highly sophisticated US sourced weaponary in the terrorists's arsenal.
My earlier mention of the Browning sniper weapon was pointed, accurate and drawn from experience.
I particularly like the use of 'another' as in another case.
There were always other supplies and suppliers but in my three tours in the province during the late eighties and early ninties we were always made aware of the exitence of highly sophisticated US sourced weaponary in the terrorists's arsenal.
My earlier mention of the Browning sniper weapon was pointed, accurate and drawn from experience.
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The IRA has in the past received aid from a variety of groups and countries and considerable training and arms from Libya and the PLO. Is suspected of receiving funds, arms, and other terrorist related materiel from sympathizers in the United States. Similarities in operations suggest links to ETA.
Please to note....it said Sympathizers....not the average American citizen nor the US Government.
The IRA has in the past received aid from a variety of groups and countries and considerable training and arms from Libya and the PLO. Is suspected of receiving funds, arms, and other terrorist related materiel from sympathizers in the United States. Similarities in operations suggest links to ETA.
Please to note....it said Sympathizers....not the average American citizen nor the US Government.
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Back to the original thread -
Sounds to me like the " passenger" got caught short and desparate - hence the erratic landing and being seen hiding behind a tree !
my two penneth worth - Guns Kill - Helicopters Kill.
I don't own a gun and I don't own a helicopter ....
but when I want to fly I go to my local flying school - when I want to shoot................
And if anyone burglarises my house I'll sort them out the old fashioned way - unleash the Wife's tongue on them.
Sounds to me like the " passenger" got caught short and desparate - hence the erratic landing and being seen hiding behind a tree !
my two penneth worth - Guns Kill - Helicopters Kill.
I don't own a gun and I don't own a helicopter ....
but when I want to fly I go to my local flying school - when I want to shoot................
And if anyone burglarises my house I'll sort them out the old fashioned way - unleash the Wife's tongue on them.
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We're not getting at Americans here... just gun freaks.
Despite what you might think, only a minority of Americans are gun freaks.
We have our own gun freaks in the UK - the chap who perpetrated the Dunblane massacre springs to mind.
We have had one such incident, while America has had dozens, because our gun freaks can't get the tools.
I like Americans. I don't like gun freaks, of whatever nationality.
A gun makes a small man feel like a big man. Unfortunately, his brain stays small.
So intoxicating is this feeling that gun freaks will go to any lengths to get their fix.
When reason doesn't come into it, they resort to pomposity and bombast, scorn and vitriol.
And as a final resort, they will say that their inalienable rights to caress their firearms outweigh the rights of their victims to live.
What has this got to do with helicopters?
Despite what you might think, only a minority of Americans are gun freaks.
We have our own gun freaks in the UK - the chap who perpetrated the Dunblane massacre springs to mind.
We have had one such incident, while America has had dozens, because our gun freaks can't get the tools.
I like Americans. I don't like gun freaks, of whatever nationality.
A gun makes a small man feel like a big man. Unfortunately, his brain stays small.
So intoxicating is this feeling that gun freaks will go to any lengths to get their fix.
When reason doesn't come into it, they resort to pomposity and bombast, scorn and vitriol.
And as a final resort, they will say that their inalienable rights to caress their firearms outweigh the rights of their victims to live.
What has this got to do with helicopters?
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t'aint natural laments about "gun freaks":
Let's have a peek at the numbers, eh what? The U.K. has approximately 60,000,000 people who've lived under a monarchy since history began.
The U.S. has approximately 285,000,000 people, many of whom went there to escape that sort of tyrannical government in the first place.
Many people look at and admire the U.S. with its free, open society. Yet they are quick to hop on their soapbox and criticize the entire nation for things that result from having that free society.
The U.S. has always allowed relatively unrestricted access to firearms...primarily and originally out of necessity due to the wild, untamed areas of the country (and no, I'm not talking about NYC) where having a firearm meant the difference between maintaining your place on the food chain...or not. There were other reasons, of course: the "every man a militia man" attitude of the first settlers being one of them.
Yes, Americans do die from gunshots, accidentally and on purpose. They believe this to be the "cost of doing business" in a free, open society. Better than the U.K.? Or just different? If Americans were really as outraged about their "gun problem" as the rest of the world would LIKE them to be about it, the laws would have changed long ago. It is to everyone <i>else's</i> high indignation that they're not.
But blaming the U.S. for the "gun problem" in the rest of the world is like blaming Colombia or Turkey or Afghanistan for the "drug problem" in the rest of the world.
What does this have to do with helicopters? Well, when a chap fires a rifle at a helicopter, the two subjects sort of become related, no? If it was not the first time it happened, it will certainly not be the last in these post-9/11 times.
We're not getting at Americans here... just gun freaks.
Despite what you might think, only a minority of Americans are gun freaks.
We have our own gun freaks in the UK - the chap who perpetrated the Dunblane massacre springs to mind.
We have had one such incident, while America has had dozens, because our gun freaks can't get the tools.
Despite what you might think, only a minority of Americans are gun freaks.
We have our own gun freaks in the UK - the chap who perpetrated the Dunblane massacre springs to mind.
We have had one such incident, while America has had dozens, because our gun freaks can't get the tools.
Let's have a peek at the numbers, eh what? The U.K. has approximately 60,000,000 people who've lived under a monarchy since history began.
The U.S. has approximately 285,000,000 people, many of whom went there to escape that sort of tyrannical government in the first place.
Many people look at and admire the U.S. with its free, open society. Yet they are quick to hop on their soapbox and criticize the entire nation for things that result from having that free society.
The U.S. has always allowed relatively unrestricted access to firearms...primarily and originally out of necessity due to the wild, untamed areas of the country (and no, I'm not talking about NYC) where having a firearm meant the difference between maintaining your place on the food chain...or not. There were other reasons, of course: the "every man a militia man" attitude of the first settlers being one of them.
Yes, Americans do die from gunshots, accidentally and on purpose. They believe this to be the "cost of doing business" in a free, open society. Better than the U.K.? Or just different? If Americans were really as outraged about their "gun problem" as the rest of the world would LIKE them to be about it, the laws would have changed long ago. It is to everyone <i>else's</i> high indignation that they're not.
But blaming the U.S. for the "gun problem" in the rest of the world is like blaming Colombia or Turkey or Afghanistan for the "drug problem" in the rest of the world.
What does this have to do with helicopters? Well, when a chap fires a rifle at a helicopter, the two subjects sort of become related, no? If it was not the first time it happened, it will certainly not be the last in these post-9/11 times.
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Peek at the numbers? So there are 4.5 Americans for every Brit.
So there should be 5,500 gun deaths in the UK each year.
In fact there are about 80 (even with our Yardie friends swapping lead in Brixton).
So we save 5,520 lives a year by not having to conform to 18th century notions about the requirements of a well-regulated militia.
And anyone who believes that Americans wholeheartedly embrace the current situation has never seen the NRA in action.
There used to be an old biddy in the West Country who fired her shotgun at gliders because the pilots were looking in her bathroom window. Perhaps on that basis we could move this to a gliding forum?
So there should be 5,500 gun deaths in the UK each year.
In fact there are about 80 (even with our Yardie friends swapping lead in Brixton).
So we save 5,520 lives a year by not having to conform to 18th century notions about the requirements of a well-regulated militia.
And anyone who believes that Americans wholeheartedly embrace the current situation has never seen the NRA in action.
There used to be an old biddy in the West Country who fired her shotgun at gliders because the pilots were looking in her bathroom window. Perhaps on that basis we could move this to a gliding forum?
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OK guys.
We've had a good discussion, most of which has had little or nothing to do with the original helicopter topic.
If anyone really wants to continue a 'gun control' discussion, JetBlast is the forum for it.
We've had a good discussion, most of which has had little or nothing to do with the original helicopter topic.
If anyone really wants to continue a 'gun control' discussion, JetBlast is the forum for it.
