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Old 7th May 2019, 20:35
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So itís like being compliant right up to the point when you choose not to be - kind of defeats the whole point of the process.......
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Old 7th May 2019, 22:13
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The AAIU is a small organisation that will have been stretched to its limits with this inquiry, although I know they will have given it their all.

It seems like what they've chosen to do is entirely sensible and justifiable, particularly if producing another interim bulletin would delay the final report.
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Old 12th May 2019, 11:16
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Heard a rumour that Irish SAR are looking for a quick-fix for NVG training - be interesting to see if they can find anyone with the requisite experience of recent SAR NVG and S92 time..

A few years ago a sadly departed colleague with plenty of NVG experience and instructional time was passed over to introduce NVG to Irish SAR because they wanted someone Irish to do it rather than someone who was qualified - hope they don't repeat that process.
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Old 12th May 2019, 23:04
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Theyíve just had a very experienced S92 NVGI join and leave in a blink...

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Old 12th May 2019, 23:21
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How recent would NVG experience need to be to be acceptable to instruct in civ sar world? I know unless in date you canít be an IRI or TRI so would NVGI require currency? How recently experienced are those on offer or this person who didnít hang around? The accident report will doubtless be damning, how well are they risk assessing NVG intro given the mess made of S92 intro and apparent contempt for the advice given and offered by experienced S92 SAR personnel to those who at the time were new to type?
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Old 13th May 2019, 07:36
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And are they just going to get a box-ticking basic NVG qualification or will they get someone who has actual SAR training and Ops experience??
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Old 13th May 2019, 21:38
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Box ticking was the order of the day for S92 intro wasnít it? Mentioned here before that CRM was also a box ticking exercise as were some currency items. So probably given those responsible are all still in post.
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Old 13th May 2019, 22:49
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,, " they wanted someone Irish to do it rather than someone who was qualified."
That sentence might get me in trouble.
But thanks anyway.

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Cpt B

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Old 16th May 2019, 00:53
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BSU - should have clarified that the Irish guys put forward for the post had no instructional qualifications nor experience - they had just been in the company for longer - it wasn't a sneakily disguised Irish joke.
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Old 18th Oct 2019, 06:30
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I hear that the Irish CG has signed up for some NVG training - at last - but have the possible providers got any depth of NVG experience, especially in SAR NVG Ops?

Outside of present UK SAR, I know where all the depth of experience lies in that field but that doesn't seem to be where the contract is going.

This is a rumour network after all....
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Old 18th Oct 2019, 18:08
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Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
I hear that the Irish CG has signed up for some NVG training - at last - but have the possible providers got any depth of NVG experience, especially in SAR NVG Ops?

Outside of present UK SAR, I know where all the depth of experience lies in that field but that doesn't seem to be where the contract is going.

This is a rumour network after all....
Crab, your right itís not going to any of the experienced NVG providers.
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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 15:18
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Crab, your right itís not going to any of the experienced NVG providers.

Any idea who was awarded the contact? or at least what their background is.....
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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 17:42
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Helioperations I believe.
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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 18:40
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So has this company any previous NVG training delivery? How many NVG experienced instructors do they have? Doesnít look like many on their website. Was there a tender process, if not why not? Does another company not hold a contract for all SAR training globally for CHC?
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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 21:51
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You would have thought asking Bristow would have been a logical choice since they have all the current SAR NVG experience on the same aircraft type.
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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 13:02
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Hang on. Isnít this the CHC Ireland who didnít listen to the training and standards dept of CHC U.K. SAR when they got 92ís from there? And lack of lessons learned contributed to the source of this thread or so people have asserted and discussed at length. Would they be smart enough to ask for help with this? Sounds like they have but maybe kept it quiet hence thereís an apparent award to someone seemingly not experienced in the relevant area, has to be an inside job or sly envelope somewhere. Isnít the chief pilot of helioperations on their website a former CHC employee? Was he CHC Ireland before that?
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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 17:07
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Well sounds like the NVG training has already slipped into 2020.

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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 20:29
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Is this why helioperations have just bought 16 old uk mil seakings? Taking over Ireland SAR again while training the crews to use NVG��

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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 20:48
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Isnít the chief pilot of helioperations on their website a former CHC employee? Was he CHC Ireland before that?
He was CHC in between Bristow (where he started) but was continuously in Stornoway for years I think.
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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 21:52
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He was CHC in between Bristow (where he started) but was continuously in Stornoway for years I think.
Ah yes, he of 'meatgate' fame.
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